Iman Shumpert-I'm Impressed

RHODEY · Post #1 » by **RHODEY** » Tue Nov 11, 2014 4:20 pm

Over 14 ppg, over %50 FG %57 3 pt shooting ... yeah I'm impressed. Can he keep this up? Do we still want to move this guy?

Post #2 » by **mpharris36** » Tue Nov 11, 2014 4:27 pm

the problem becomes if he continues to play really well he will price himself out of here. Someone is going to pay for a 24 year old 2-way guard. There aren't that many good 2 guards in this league anymore.

For example the sixers could offer him a big deal and then they could have MCW, Shumpert, Noel, and Embid

along with a top 3 pick.

That could be a really nice young team, and sick defensively.

knickabocker88 · Post #3 » by **knickabocker88** » Tue Nov 11, 2014 4:29 pm

Phil saved his career, We will re-sign him for what Ariza got in Houston.

Perfect Starting Role player on a Contending Squad.

Bill Pidto · Post #4 » by **Bill Pidto** » Tue Nov 11, 2014 4:37 pm

knickabocker88 wrote:Phil saved his career, We will re-sign him for what Ariza got in Houston.

Perfect Starting Role player on a Contending Squad.

Don't give Phil all the credit here. Give some to Fisher and give most of it to Shumpert.

Does it surprise anyone that Shump has put in major work?

He's easily the Knicks' second best player behind Melo.

My favorite thing about his game right now is the way he's moving the ball. He's becoming a real playmaker. And greenie said he can't pass. Said he can't handle the ball or shoot the ball either. Shump Shump says "hai".

PaKii94 · Post #5 » by **PaKii94** » Tue Nov 11, 2014 4:37 pm

mpharris36 wrote:the problem becomes if he continues to play really well he will price himself out of here. Someone is going to pay for a 24 year old 2-way guard. There aren't that many good 2 guards in this league anymore.

For example the sixers could offer him a big deal and then they could have MCW, Shumpert, Noel, and Embid

along with a top 3 pick.

That could be a really nice young team, and sick defensively.

MCW/Shumpert/Saric/Noel/Embid would do some damage ouch

frogfood · Post #6 » by **frogfood** » Tue Nov 11, 2014 4:40 pm

PaKii94 wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:the problem becomes if he continues to play really well he will price himself out of here. Someone is going to pay for a 24 year old 2-way guard. There aren't that many good 2 guards in this league anymore.

For example the sixers could offer him a big deal and then they could have MCW, Shumpert, Noel, and Embid

along with a top 3 pick.

That could be a really nice young team, and sick defensively.

MCW/Shumpert/Saric/Noel/Embid would do some damage ouch

That team would still be bottom 5, even in 3 years.

PaKii94 · Post #7 » by **PaKii94** » Tue Nov 11, 2014 4:41 pm

frogfood wrote:
PaKii94 wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:the problem becomes if he continues to play really well he will price himself out of here. Someone is going to pay for a 24 year old 2-way guard. There aren't that many good 2 guards in this league anymore.

For example the sixers could offer him a big deal and then they could have MCW, Shumpert, Noel, and Embid

along with a top 3 pick.

That could be a really nice young team, and sick defensively.

MCW/Shumpert/Saric/Noel/Embid would do some damage ouch

That team would still be bottom 5, even in 3 years.

its all about dat potential for the decade after the 3 years :wink:

Post #8 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Tue Nov 11, 2014 4:48 pm

Shump's looking like a keeper. He's a nice fit in this system and next to Melo and Calderon. He's the type of player you keep.

sol537 · Post #9 » by **sol537** » Tue Nov 11, 2014 4:53 pm

Gasol
PF
Melo
Shumpert
Calderon

Damn fine triangle team right thar...

Post #10 » by **mpharris36** » Tue Nov 11, 2014 4:58 pm

sol537 wrote:Gasol
PF
Melo
Shumpert
Calderon

Damn fine triangle team right thar...

Montrezl Harrel at PF with our draft pick?

FemaleDogPlease · Post #11 » by **FemaleDogPlease** » Tue Nov 11, 2014 5:02 pm

Contract year. I'd trade him as soon as December 15th rolls around.

Shumpert putting up decent numbers and the Knicks still losing.

frogfood · Post #12 » by **frogfood** » Tue Nov 11, 2014 5:07 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
sol537 wrote:Gasol
PF
Melo
Shumpert
Calderon

Damn fine triangle team right thar...

Montrezl Harrel at PF with our draft pick?

At this rate? Jahlil Okafor at PF

Lord Commander · Post #13 » by **Lord Commander** » Tue Nov 11, 2014 5:13 pm

frogfood wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
sol537 wrote:Gasol
PF
Melo
Shumpert
Calderon

Damn fine triangle team right thar...

Montrezl Harrel at PF with our draft pick?

At this rate? Jahlil Okafor at PF

I'm willing to sacrifice. Tank tank tank tank tank tank tank....

Jay10 · Post #14 » by **Jay10** » Tue Nov 11, 2014 5:14 pm

frogfood wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
sol537 wrote:Gasol
PF
Melo
Shumpert
Calderon

Damn fine triangle team right thar...

Montrezl Harrel at PF with our draft pick?

At this rate? Jahlil Okafor at PF

with the knicks' luck they would end up with the 2nd pick.

Post #15 » by **kane2021** » Tue Nov 11, 2014 5:16 pm

Shump is maturing and taking the game very serious. The biggest thing that stands out to me about shump is his dribbling has really improved. This kid is performing sharp change of direction moves. Crossing over with explosion. And his jump shot is improved. You can see him in the process of putting the dribble moves and jump shot together. At this rate,... shump is moving towards being able to create and shoot off the dribble.

I think its going to help him getting into the paint too. Where he has confidence to not have to pick up his dribble to early on drives and get a step closer to the rim on his finishes.

The biggest improvement i see is how serious he is taking the game. He is becoming a very emotional player. In a good way. He is taking it personal. Thats so very important defensively.

I think shump has hit a point in his life where he realizes to be the man he wants, he is going to have to take his respect by force with his play. This aint a contract thing. Its a young man who has always believed in his ability. He is more comfortable in the NBA now. Not as nervous or thinking as much. Has added to his game and is finding a way to put pressure on the other guys during play.

Im on record for not liking the kid. I got my reasons. None the less he deserves credit. The kid has impressed me this season. Enough that I want to see more. For the first time im a bit on the fence about his future here. Especially in todays NBA. Where shooting guards are actually becoming difficult to find.

Nyk4lyfe · Post #16 » by **Nyk4lyfe** » Tue Nov 11, 2014 5:20 pm

PaKii94 wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:the problem becomes if he continues to play really well he will price himself out of here. Someone is going to pay for a 24 year old 2-way guard. There aren't that many good 2 guards in this league anymore.

For example the sixers could offer him a big deal and then they could have MCW, Shumpert, Noel, and Embid

along with a top 3 pick.

That could be a really nice young team, and sick defensively.

MCW/Shumpert/Saric/Noel/Embid would do some damage ouch

Also keep in mind that they have another top 3 pick this year + like 50 mil in cap space lmao.

Nyk4lyfe · Post #17 » by **Nyk4lyfe** » Tue Nov 11, 2014 5:21 pm

sol537 wrote:Gasol
PF
Melo
Shumpert
Calderon

Damn fine triangle team right thar...

Hopefully trade JR so we can have some extra capspace for someone like Milsap or Monroe

emo · Post #18 » by **emo** » Tue Nov 11, 2014 5:23 pm

PaKii94 wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:the problem becomes if he continues to play really well he will price himself out of here. Someone is going to pay for a 24 year old 2-way guard. There aren't that many good 2 guards in this league anymore.

For example the sixers could offer him a big deal and then they could have MCW, Shumpert, Noel, and Embid

along with a top 3 pick.

That could be a really nice young team, and sick defensively.

MCW/Shumpert/Saric/Noel/Embid would do some damage ouch

I personally don't think Shump is better than Tony Wroten.

Not even close in my mind. If we could do that swap.. lawd I would be happy.

Post #19 » by **Capn'O** » Tue Nov 11, 2014 5:23 pm

kane2021 wrote:Shump is maturing and taking the game very serious. The biggest thing that stands out to me about shump is his dribbling has really improved. This kid is performing sharp change of direction moves. Crossing over with explosion. And his jump shot is improved. You can see him in the process of putting the dribble moves and jump shot together. At this rate,... shump is moving towards being able to create and shoot off the dribble.

I think its going to help him getting into the paint too. Where he has confidence to not have to pick up his dribble to early on drives and get a step closer to the rim on his finishes.

The biggest improvement i see is how serious he is taking the game. He is becoming a very emotional player. In a good way. He is taking it personal. Thats so very important defensively.

I think shump has hit a point in his life where he realizes to be the man he wants, he is going to have to take his respect by force with his play. This aint a contract thing. Its a young man who has always believed in his ability. He is more comfortable in the NBA now. Not as nervous or thinking as much. Has added to his game and is finding a way to put pressure on the other guys during play.

Im on record for not liking the kid. I got my reasons. None the less he deserves credit. The kid has impressed me this season. Enough that I want to see more. For the first time im a bit on the fence about his future here. Especially in todays NBA. Where shooting guards are actually becoming difficult to find.

Shump and JR have kind of reversed roles this year. Shump is being encouraged and promoted and JR has a quick hook on him. Shump is playing free and JR is playing tentative. Ultimately, I think that's the correct approach to bring the best out of both players. Shump needed positive re-enforcement + constructive criticism, JR needs discipline to refine his tremendous physical abilities.

I do, however, wonder if either player will be here at season's end.

Bill Pidto · Post #20 » by **Bill Pidto** » Tue Nov 11, 2014 5:28 pm

emo wrote:I personally don't think Shump isn't better than Tony Wroten.

So you think Shump is better than Wroten. Word. Me too.