NYPOST: Melo now willing to waive no-trade clause

[ChokeFasncists]

It's not like Lin was outplayed by Price or anything, he just couldn't do his thing with Kobe there.

Lin is absolute trash. Can't dribble, can't shoot, can't defend. The guy is a mistake waiting to happen. After this contract, I doubt he'll even get the mininum. He's that bad.

Everything is untrue except for the mistake part. He will definitely get more than the minimum, even his most ardent haters think he'll be a good backup. He has improved his dribbling, shooting and defense. He just hasn't found a way to be consistent yet. I'm sure he'll be less mistake prone as he matures and has every aspect of the game learned.

Blake broke his leg in his rookie season, he's fine. Broke his own leg? Na, he was pushed from behind by DMo.

It's not like Lin was outplayed by Price or anything, he just couldn't do his thing with Kobe there.

Look, I don't know what your rooting interest is other than Lin, but you're clearly not a Knicks fan because you hanging onto a proposal that no sane Knicks fan would even entertain for half a second.

I'm neither a Lakers nor Knicks fan.

One, Melo most likely isn't going anywhere; certainly not a 7-16 Lakers team that is miles away from contending.

It depends on how true the rumor that he is willing to waive the no trade thing. The Lakers are the Lakers, who knows? I think Melo did come out and say he was interested in signing with the Lakers this summer.

Two, comparing Randle to Blake is wild speculation at this point. And yes, he broke his leg hitting it on his other leg.

The guy said he was injured therefore he's no good. Well, I said that's not true, look at Blake. I never said Randle will be like Blake. He got pushed. It's not like he was dribbling and suddenly broke his leg.

Three, the fact that Lin's even in a conversation with the likes of Price is his own fault. The Lakers run some similar sets to our triangle and focus on the half court set like we do. Lin's looks lost in that offense. Even if we wanted him, he'd be widely available for $3-4M next year. Randle and Lin have no value.

Sure, he can be signed in the off season, it depends whether this year for the Knicks is a complete shutdown or not and it depends on his play from now on. If he can consistently play like he did in the first half against the Spurs, he'd cost more than that. Randle has no value???~~ HAhaha, then it's too bad.

Lin isn't lost in the the offense. He was doing well setting up the offense and Kobe but he's hesitating and not playing very well otherwise.

any more videos of him dominating d-league talent? that's the stuff we wanna see

~lol~
Preseason is not summer league or d-league. Regular NBA players play in preseason games.

If you were to trade Melo... you will not get equal value for him. Why do I get the feeling that this board doesn't understand that. Look at trade histories when it comes to players like Anthony. Even the Nuggets/Knicks trade.. the Nuggets only got 50 cents on a dollar.

His contract is more than what Amar'e made. How many teams are willing to pay that price? Dallas, Lakers?

Yup, that's how it is.

[playboy jeanie]

Melo is slower than Pierce?

When he gets old he will become less athletic and thus he will be slower. Aging will make him worse or at least that should be thought of as something that might happen. As a team that's close to rock bottom building a contender takes 3-4 years especially if it's being built from that level the Knicks are at now.

Prime Pierce was still slower than current Melo.

If Melo doesn't match Pierce's production, it won't be due to speed.

Prime Pierce was quicker than prime Melo. Pierce likes to play deliberately with the ball so people think he's slow. But prime Pierce had lateral quickness, vision and strength that made him a better playmaker and defender.

[playboy jeanie]

Randle has better value?

Sorry, sir, but you need to get out of this forum.

I'm not even a ra-ra Melo guy and that statement is fcking ridiculous. An injured rookie who has played half an NBA game has more value than a guy who has proven to be a premiere scorer in the league the past decade. Okay.

The question is not the value of Randle, which is an unknown by itself, but the value of Melo. If Melo has started his decline, then with his salary, he might soon become a hindrance instead of an asset. Years 4 and 5 of that contract will be terrible for whoever has Melo.

[Context]

This was Melos and Phil's plan all along

[rammagen]

I trade him but not for anything but picls from the lakers. Randle does not have enough value for Melo. Randle and 2 or 3 first round picks and then we can start talking other players but the laker fans trolling this thread are homers to think it is even close even in the next 2 yrs. Randle is a complete unknown and has could not even complete a full season.. that is where your conversation stops and draft picks to 2 or three plus other players

[Kenyon009]

When he gets old he will become less athletic and thus he will be slower. Aging will make him worse or at least that should be thought of as something that might happen. As a team that's close to rock bottom building a contender takes 3-4 years especially if it's being built from that level the Knicks are at now.

Prime Pierce was still slower than current Melo.

If Melo doesn't match Pierce's production, it won't be due to speed.

Prime Pierce was quicker than prime Melo. Pierce likes to play deliberately with the ball so people think he's slow. But prime Pierce had lateral quickness, vision and strength that made him a better playmaker and defender.

Lool so he had quickness but never used it? Strong argument...

[MrProb]

Pierce was so good that barely anyone knows about his existence for years until the arrival of KG and Ray.

[Ignitowsky]

Pierce was so good that barely anyone knows about his existence for years until the arrival of KG and Ray.

I hate Pierce more than any player in the NBA and it kills me to say anything good about him, but he was a multiple all star (5 times I think) before KG or Ray set foot in Boston. What you said is just complete fiction.

[Slackstring701]

asked this in the trade thread as well but how does Melo's trade kicker work?

[GYK]

Pierce was so good that barely anyone knows about his existence for years until the arrival of KG and Ray.

I hate Pierce more than any player in the NBA and it kills me to say anything good about him, but he was a multiple all star (5 times I think) before KG or Ray set foot in Boston. What you said is just complete fiction.

Yea five exactly
Five in which he was never able to make a starting lineup
Five in which he couldn't be the second to last off the bench

Pierce ring made him an all time great.
He was never on track to be top ten scoring all-time
Melo from rookie year to his trade would be the third seed nearly every single year.
Pierce doesn't have Melo seasons. He was an after thought. You won't find articles about him pre-Boston 3 Party.
If Melo wins a ring this comparison will be laughable.

[Ignitowsky]

Pierce was so good that barely anyone knows about his existence for years until the arrival of KG and Ray.

I hate Pierce more than any player in the NBA and it kills me to say anything good about him, but he was a multiple all star (5 times I think) before KG or Ray set foot in Boston. What you said is just complete fiction.

Yea five exactly
Five in which he was never able to make a starting lineup
Five in which he couldn't be the second to last off the bench

Pierce ring made him an all time great.
He was never on track to be top ten scoring all-time
Melo from rookie year to his trade would be the third seed nearly every single year.
Pierce doesn't have Melo seasons. He was an after thought. You won't find articles about him pre-Boston 3 Party.
If Melo wins a ring this comparison will be laughable.

Yes, I agree with all of your post, but my response still holds. Pierce was a well known star way before KG and Allen came to Boston. he can f*ck himself though. I'll always hate him.

[MrProb]

Pierce was so good that barely anyone knows about his existence for years until the arrival of KG and Ray.

I hate Pierce more than any player in the NBA and it kills me to say anything good about him, but he was a multiple all star (5 times I think) before KG or Ray set foot in Boston. What you said is just complete fiction.

Yea five exactly
Five in which he was never able to make a starting lineup
Five in which he couldn't be the second to last off the bench

Pierce ring made him an all time great.
He was never on track to be top ten scoring all-time
Melo from rookie year to his trade would be the third seed nearly every single year.
Pierce doesn't have Melo seasons. He was an after thought. You won't find articles about him pre-Boston 3 Party.
If Melo wins a ring this comparison will be laughable.

You took the words off my mouth.
Being an all-star doesn't mean you're a well-known player, analists will recognized you from time to time if you're playing good and that makes people vote for you and someone like Pierce back then was just another player to add to the bench.

I'm not saying he's terrible, he's skilled and crafty BUT the logic behind who's great and who's not is just beyond stupid sometimes... ala fallacy and this being used to attack certain players are so lame.

[Meat]

Pierce was so good that barely anyone knows about his existence for years until the arrival of KG and Ray.

I hate Pierce more than any player in the NBA and it kills me to say anything good about him, but he was a multiple all star (5 times I think) before KG or Ray set foot in Boston. What you said is just complete fiction.

Yea five exactly
Five in which he was never able to make a starting lineup
Five in which he couldn't be the second to last off the bench

Pierce ring made him an all time great.
He was never on track to be top ten scoring all-time
Melo from rookie year to his trade would be the third seed nearly every single year.
Pierce doesn't have Melo seasons. He was an after thought. You won't find articles about him pre-Boston 3 Party.
If Melo wins a ring this comparison will be laughable.

playing in boston didnt hurt either, old white writers love sucking off celtics

[Ignitowsky]

I hate Pierce more than any player in the NBA and it kills me to say anything good about him, but he was a multiple all star (5 times I think) before KG or Ray set foot in Boston. What you said is just complete fiction.

Yea five exactly
Five in which he was never able to make a starting lineup
Five in which he couldn't be the second to last off the bench

Pierce ring made him an all time great.
He was never on track to be top ten scoring all-time
Melo from rookie year to his trade would be the third seed nearly every single year.
Pierce doesn't have Melo seasons. He was an after thought. You won't find articles about him pre-Boston 3 Party.
If Melo wins a ring this comparison will be laughable.

playing in boston didnt hurt either, old white writers love sucking off celtics

EVERYONE in Eastern Mass loves sucking off the Celtics.

[ChokeFasncists]

Pierce was so good that barely anyone knows about his existence for years until the arrival of KG and Ray.

I hate Pierce more than any player in the NBA and it kills me to say anything good about him, but he was a multiple all star (5 times I think) before KG or Ray set foot in Boston. What you said is just complete fiction.

Yes, and have Shaq call him "the Truth", which was commonly used then.

[frogfood]

That white hat + blue band, oof..

[HarthorneWingo]

This was Melos and Phil's plan all along

where the f*ck have you been? hope all is well

[HarthorneWingo]

Yea five exactly
Five in which he was never able to make a starting lineup
Five in which he couldn't be the second to last off the bench

Pierce ring made him an all time great.
He was never on track to be top ten scoring all-time
Melo from rookie year to his trade would be the third seed nearly every single year.
Pierce doesn't have Melo seasons. He was an after thought. You won't find articles about him pre-Boston 3 Party.
If Melo wins a ring this comparison will be laughable.

playing in boston didnt hurt either, old white writers love sucking off celtics

EVERYONE in Eastern Mass loves sucking off the Celtics.

I don't know what they put in the water up there, but I even started sucking off the Celtics while I was a student up at BC back in the late 70s. This was during the Michael Ray, Ray Williams days and then Auerbach orchestrated the Bird/McHale/Parish moves. When that happened, I went into a temporary period of insanity. It was so much fun to watch that team play. (Begins to cry.) I'm sorry.

[Ignitowsky]

playing in boston didnt hurt either, old white writers love sucking off celtics

EVERYONE in Eastern Mass loves sucking off the Celtics.

I don't know what they put in the water up there, but I even started sucking off the Celtics while I was a student up at BC back in the late 70s. This was during the Michael Ray, Ray Williams days and then Auerbach orchestrated the Bird/McHale/Parish moves. When that happened, I went into a temporary period of insanity. It was so much fun to watch that team play. (Begins to cry.) I'm sorry.

It's Ok Wingy You came to your senses. Just don't tell that story to Clyde if you ever meet him.