OT: D Cousins?

[Bobbyydee]

I'm not trading the pick unless it's for a top 5 NBA player.

Oh I forgot about the msg shareholders If the knicks are lucky to get Okafor the team will be hella relevant in the next 10 years Dolans Dad wil be smiling in his grave, his nephews and nieces and sons and daughters will be happy also if knicks trade the the pick and he turns out to be a major star you all know Dolan and phil can live with themselves. Phils legacy will be totally destroyed my 2 cents

[Bobbyydee]

IF you still think the knicks trade the pick for Boogie we can bet some real dollars and may the best man win. The mods will keep the money(thousands) till the winner is determined

[je2340]

I don't know how I feel about drafting Duke big men. Brand, Laetner and Boozer were decent NBA players but none of them game changing pieces. I am a fan of Cousins and think he will make a different.

[HarthorneWingo]

Okafor is very slow footed on defense. I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't a good rebounder in the pros as well. He won't come close to Cousins.

[Moose]

I don't know how I feel about drafting Duke big men. Brand, Laetner and Boozer were decent NBA players but none of them game changing pieces. I am a fan of Cousins and think he will make a different.

I don't see how you can hate on Brand here. And despite Boozer's flaws, he far exceeded expectations. I'm pretty sure most thought he would be a complete bust.

[Moose]

Okafor is very slow footed on defense. I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't a good rebounder in the pros as well. He won't come close to Cousins.

One is 15 million, the other is 5 million. One allows us to sign 2 other very good players, the other does not. Now, if you mean to tell me we can trade Okafor for Cousins after we make all of our main free agent signings, then perhaps that is something we should consider.

But again, you have to worry about Cousins with the NY media.

[DowNY]

Okafor is very slow footed on defense. I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't a good rebounder in the pros as well. He won't come close to Cousins.

One is 15 million, the other is 5 million. One allows us to sign 2 other very good players, the other does not. Now, if you mean to tell me we can trade Okafor for Cousins after we make all of our main free agent signings, then perhaps that is something we should consider.

But again, you have to worry about Cousins with the NY media.

2 other very good players like who? Which 2 players are equal to DeMarcus talent level that is available?

Also, I would think the Knicks can pawn of Calderon if a trade like this was possible. Meaning it would still be a max slot available this offseason.

Then once the cap goes up, that's another max spot damn near.

Melo
Cousins
Max player
Max player or very good

All in a short time.

[HarthorneWingo]

Okafor is very slow footed on defense. I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't a good rebounder in the pros as well. He won't come close to Cousins.

One is 15 million, the other is 5 million. One allows us to sign 2 other very good players, the other does not. Now, if you mean to tell me we can trade Okafor for Cousins after we make all of our main free agent signings, then perhaps that is something we should consider.

But again, you have to worry about Cousins with the NY media.

Yeah, I hear ya. But getting a dominating center who plays defense, passes and scores like Cousins has proven on the NBA level doesn't happen too often. Plus, if we are in a win now mode with Melo, then that's even more reason to get Cousins. The cap will rise in 16, so we'll have no problem putting together the necessary pieces by then.

[Jeff Van Gully]

I don't know how I feel about drafting Duke big men. Brand, Laetner and Boozer were decent NBA players but none of them game changing pieces. I am a fan of Cousins and think he will make a different.

I don't see how you can hate on Brand here. And despite Boozer's flaws, he far exceeded expectations. I'm pretty sure most thought he would be a complete bust.

word. somebody is showing age or ignorance. brand's first like 9 years he was one of the best bigs in the league, no question.

[Knicksfan1992]

Okafor is very slow footed on defense. I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't a good rebounder in the pros as well. He won't come close to Cousins.

One is 15 million, the other is 5 million. One allows us to sign 2 other very good players, the other does not. Now, if you mean to tell me we can trade Okafor for Cousins after we make all of our main free agent signings, then perhaps that is something we should consider.

But again, you have to worry about Cousins with the NY media.

Yeah, I hear ya. But getting a dominating center who plays defense, passes and scores like Cousins has proven on the NBA level doesn't happen too often. Plus, if we are in a win now mode with Melo, then that's even more reason to get Cousins. The cap will rise in 16, so we'll have no problem putting together the necessary pieces by then.

And he's still only 24 we'd have at least 6 years of Prime Boogie. It's a no brainer IMO.

[Jeff Van Gully]

Okafor is very slow footed on defense. I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't a good rebounder in the pros as well. He won't come close to Cousins.

One is 15 million, the other is 5 million. One allows us to sign 2 other very good players, the other does not. Now, if you mean to tell me we can trade Okafor for Cousins after we make all of our main free agent signings, then perhaps that is something we should consider.

But again, you have to worry about Cousins with the NY media.

Yeah, I hear ya. But getting a dominating center who plays defense, passes and scores like Cousins has proven on the NBA level doesn't happen too often. Plus, if we are in a win now mode with Melo, then that's even more reason to get Cousins. The cap will rise in 16, so we'll have no problem putting together the necessary pieces by then.

gonna have to agree that boogie would not be the craziest risk, especially when we don't know what we'd be getting out of the pick. that's risk-reward. imagine cousins thriving in his prime in new york. that would be game-changing.

of course, the other side of this is getting a potential cheap star and using the cousins money on another star... and another one the following year... if you're lucky to attract them. i wouldn't be angry at either direction, to be honest.

hard to look off the bird in the hand.

[Moose]

Okafor is very slow footed on defense. I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't a good rebounder in the pros as well. He won't come close to Cousins.

One is 15 million, the other is 5 million. One allows us to sign 2 other very good players, the other does not. Now, if you mean to tell me we can trade Okafor for Cousins after we make all of our main free agent signings, then perhaps that is something we should consider.

But again, you have to worry about Cousins with the NY media.

2 other very good players like who? Which 2 players are equal to DeMarcus talent level that is available?

Also, I would think the Knicks can pawn of Calderon if a trade like this was possible. Meaning it would still be a max slot available this offseason.

Then once the cap goes up, that's another max spot damn near.

Melo
Cousins
Max player
Max player or very good

All in a short time.

What I am saying is, you could use the cap space to sign other pieces and then make that trade for Boogie after. Cousins makes 15 million. You can add on top of, instead of filling the cap space with him. It is a timing situation.

Say, Calderon, Okafor for Boogie.

And again, you have to be concerned with his mentality and NY media clashing.

[Meat]

Okafor is very slow footed on defense. I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't a good rebounder in the pros as well. He won't come close to Cousins.

One is 15 million, the other is 5 million. One allows us to sign 2 other very good players, the other does not. Now, if you mean to tell me we can trade Okafor for Cousins after we make all of our main free agent signings, then perhaps that is something we should consider.

But again, you have to worry about Cousins with the NY media.

one the best player in then nba at his position 4 years from his "prime" one is a college kid that cant defend future d\china\euro league players

[ibraheim718]

Okafor is very slow footed on defense. I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't a good rebounder in the pros as well. He won't come close to Cousins.

I saw the 3 and 1's on your post and no lie I guessed each one right. He's slow footed..

[Moose]

Okafor is very slow footed on defense. I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't a good rebounder in the pros as well. He won't come close to Cousins.

One is 15 million, the other is 5 million. One allows us to sign 2 other very good players, the other does not. Now, if you mean to tell me we can trade Okafor for Cousins after we make all of our main free agent signings, then perhaps that is something we should consider.

But again, you have to worry about Cousins with the NY media.

one the best player in then nba at his position 4 years from his "prime" one is a college kid that cant defend future d\china\euro league players

And you can still make the trade after you use your cap space on other players...

...that's the point I'm making.

[HarthorneWingo]

Okafor is very slow footed on defense. I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't a good rebounder in the pros as well. He won't come close to Cousins.

I saw the 3 and 1's on your post and no lie I guessed each one right. He's slow footed..

Hey, don't be knocking the guys on Team Wingo. I'm honored to have such veteran and renowned posters like JBreeze, Mex and Doc on my squad.

Who you got?

[ibraheim718]

Okafor is very slow footed on defense. I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't a good rebounder in the pros as well. He won't come close to Cousins.

I saw the 3 and 1's on your post and no lie I guessed each one right. He's slow footed..

Hey, don't be knocking the guys on Team Wingo. I'm honored to have such veteran and renowned posters like JBreeze, Mex and Doc on my squad.

Who you got?

Man you should know by now I roll dolo...

[Sark]

Okafor is very slow footed on defense. I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't a good rebounder in the pros as well. He won't come close to Cousins.

He might not be as good a rebounder as Cousins, but he will be a much better and more efficient scorer than Cousins. He also will probably be a better passer than Cousins as well.

[HarthorneWingo]

Okafor is very slow footed on defense. I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't a good rebounder in the pros as well. He won't come close to Cousins.

He might not be as good a rebounder as Cousins, but he will be a much better and more efficient scorer than Cousins. He also will probably be a better passer than Cousins as well.

How do you know that about Okafor? Cousins has already done it here.

[Sark]

Okafor is very slow footed on defense. I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't a good rebounder in the pros as well. He won't come close to Cousins.

He might not be as good a rebounder as Cousins, but he will be a much better and more efficient scorer than Cousins. He also will probably be a better passer than Cousins as well.

How do you know that about Okafor? Cousins has already done it here.

Scared of the unknown huh? Understandable. There is a chance he can be worse, but there is also a chance he can be vastly better.

We know what Cousins is. A highly skilled yet inefficient post player, with a very questionable mental state. He's really good, but not great. I think Okafor can be great.