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Re: Berman: 12 realistic Knicks free-agent targets 

Post#181 » by Capn'O » Tue Apr 21, 2015 5:32 pm

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god shammgod wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/IanBegley/status/590535359697649666[/tweet]

ugh


that's what he is suppose to say.

He didn't say "bright future with us".

nor do you want to negatively impact a players value either by putting him down.


I say he didn't go far enough in praise. Ron Mexico and I gave plenty of fodder for him yesterday so he has no excuse.
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Re: Berman: 12 realistic Knicks free-agent targets 

Post#182 » by Capn'O » Tue Apr 21, 2015 5:34 pm

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[Tyson Chandler comment] [/Tyson Chandler comment]
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Re: Berman: 12 realistic Knicks free-agent targets 

Post#183 » by j4remi » Tue Apr 21, 2015 5:35 pm

mpharris36 wrote:I guess he could be after anyone really but I just don't see Phil going after a big that has no back to the basket skill. Or someone that can pass at least.

We know he doesn't want to bring in guys that strictly play the P&R. I guess I don't see someone like WCS or Brandon Wright thriving in the triangle on offense.


You wouldn't have to pay him to "thrive" though. He should be affordable and he's been pretty good defensively, a rim protector and he plays within himself...nothing forced, has fit under multiple coaches and always puts up efficient numbers. He's not your centerpiece addition, but he makes a lot of sense if you're not looking to overpay but still want bang for your buck.
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Re: Berman: 12 realistic Knicks free-agent targets 

Post#184 » by mpharris36 » Tue Apr 21, 2015 5:36 pm

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god shammgod wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/HerringWSJ/status/590548952652587008[/tweet]



[Tyson Chandler comment] [/Tyson Chandler comment]



I think people are starting to realize Tyson Chandler doesn't protect anything let alone a rim.
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Re: Berman: 12 realistic Knicks free-agent targets 

Post#185 » by mpharris36 » Tue Apr 21, 2015 5:37 pm

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mpharris36 wrote:I guess he could be after anyone really but I just don't see Phil going after a big that has no back to the basket skill. Or someone that can pass at least.

We know he doesn't want to bring in guys that strictly play the P&R. I guess I don't see someone like WCS or Brandon Wright thriving in the triangle on offense.


You wouldn't have to pay him to "thrive" though. He should be affordable and he's been pretty good defensively, a rim protector and he plays within himself...nothing forced, has fit under multiple coaches and always puts up efficient numbers. He's not your centerpiece addition, but he makes a lot of sense if you're not looking to overpay but still want bang for your buck.


agreed but right now I think we are looking for starters. Because we can only say right now is Melo is a starter. Everything else is up for grabs so priority #1 should be getting starters with our cap space...if we somehow have money left over (which I doubt) that is when you help the bench.

I mean you can probably bring back Cole Aldrich for the minimum who would have a close enough impact to Brandon wright for less the cost.
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Re: Berman: 12 realistic Knicks free-agent targets 

Post#186 » by newyorker4ever » Tue Apr 21, 2015 5:45 pm

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Thugger HBC wrote:Chris Paul was drunk when he made that toast. He's already denied it several times.

He can deny it all he wants but he did it.

You believe what drunk people say?

There's a sayin about what drunk people say that 60% of what they say is the truth so i guess i only believe 60% of it.
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Re: Berman: 12 realistic Knicks free-agent targets 

Post#187 » by newyorker4ever » Tue Apr 21, 2015 5:47 pm

Thugger HBC wrote:This past summer Melo said he'd love to play with Kobe. Players say stuff all the time, in CP3's case he was at a wedding, standing in attendance with someone who just formed their own big three....LeBron. So he toasted to form his in NY. Classic case of being drunk.

But you said he denied saying it so which one is it??
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Re: Berman: 12 realistic Knicks free-agent targets 

Post#188 » by newyorker4ever » Tue Apr 21, 2015 5:51 pm

Iron Mantis wrote:I want Gasol and Milsap . If not I'd love LMA or even D. Jordan to put alongside Melo and Milsap. We can draft D. Russel or Mudiay and call it a night. Guards don't take much time to develop. Gotta strike while Melo is in his prime.

Yeah if we could get one of P.Milsap, Dray Green and then one of M.Gasol, D.Jordan that would be awesome and then draft one of D.Russell, E.Mudiay.
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Re: Berman: 12 realistic Knicks free-agent targets 

Post#189 » by NoLayupRule » Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:03 pm

god shammgod wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/FisolaNYDN/status/590536460278833153[/tweet]

my advice to Frank Isola

You suck at your job
Stop trying to tell Phil Jackson, of all people, about basketball
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Re: Berman: 12 realistic Knicks free-agent targets 

Post#190 » by NoLayupRule » Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:11 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
god shammgod wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/HerringWSJ/status/590548952652587008[/tweet]



[Tyson Chandler comment] [/Tyson Chandler comment]



I think people are starting to realize Tyson Chandler doesn't protect anything let alone a rim.

Tyson was a good team defender with us for 2 years before he gave up

but he was never a rim protector

that phrase is a little overvalued anyway
we need a guy who alters shots and makes penetrators think twice about coming inside the paint

shot blocking is just a sexy stat
it doesn't lead to victory

defense is the key

Utah has one of the best shot blockers in the league and they are out of the playoffs
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Re: Berman: 12 realistic Knicks free-agent targets 

Post#191 » by j4remi » Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:14 pm

mpharris36 wrote:agreed but right now I think we are looking for starters. Because we can only say right now is Melo is a starter. Everything else is up for grabs so priority #1 should be getting starters with our cap space...if we somehow have money left over (which I doubt) that is when you help the bench.

I mean you can probably bring back Cole Aldrich for the minimum who would have a close enough impact to Brandon wright for less the cost.


Who can we get that's a clear starter and rim protector though? Being realistic, if you're going to start seeking a realistic option that provides rim protection and he can be more effective than Cole on offense simply because he's insanely efficient...Wright needs to be on the radar.
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Re: Berman: 12 realistic Knicks free-agent targets 

Post#192 » by newyorker4ever » Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:30 pm

Ron Mexico wrote:
god shammgod wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/FisolaNYDN/status/590534278108356608[/tweet]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/FisolaNYDN/status/590536460278833153[/tweet]


we don't need frank isola's advice on messaging to free agents.

if anything, i would not want them to know frank isola was working their beat.

phil's not wrong to be realistic. don't put pressure on it. but if they build the right team, don't think they won't be gunning for that ring.

the right acquisitions can fast-track it. but as of now, we're just laying foundation after demolition. i ain't even mad. he isn't wrong to not sound delusional.

Frank asshola sits around just waiting for anything to come out about the knicks so he can jump all over it and make it look worse than it was. He's hated around MSG and he knows it and i hate him to.
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Re: Berman: 12 realistic Knicks free-agent targets 

Post#193 » by moocow007 » Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:36 pm

god shammgod wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/HerringWSJ/status/590548239277023233[/tweet]


The person that could get to the basket the best for the Knicks was Shved. So let's see if Shevsanity continues.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/IanBegley/status/590547010769530881[/tweet]


Achilles injuries (strains, minor tears, etc.) are a bitch to heel from...especially for older people.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/HerringWSJ/status/590545631204274178[/tweet]


Hopefully Phil doesn't go to the John Idzik school of being frugal.

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Re: Berman: 12 realistic Knicks free-agent targets 

Post#194 » by moocow007 » Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:40 pm

j4remi wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:agreed but right now I think we are looking for starters. Because we can only say right now is Melo is a starter. Everything else is up for grabs so priority #1 should be getting starters with our cap space...if we somehow have money left over (which I doubt) that is when you help the bench.

I mean you can probably bring back Cole Aldrich for the minimum who would have a close enough impact to Brandon wright for less the cost.


Who can we get that's a clear starter and rim protector though? Being realistic, if you're going to start seeking a realistic option that provides rim protection and he can be more effective than Cole on offense simply because he's insanely efficient...Wright needs to be on the radar.


These guys likely will work for a buck and a quarter.

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Re: Berman: 12 realistic Knicks free-agent targets 

Post#195 » by god shammgod » Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:52 pm

moocow007 wrote:
god shammgod wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/HerringWSJ/status/590548239277023233[/tweet]


The person that could get to the basket the best for the Knicks was Shved. So let's see if Shevsanity continues.


whether it's shved or someone else, at least he's recognizing that as a need. he didn't seem to realize this before this year began.
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Re: Berman: 12 realistic Knicks free-agent targets 

Post#196 » by j4remi » Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:54 pm

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These guys likely will work for a buck and a quarter.

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Too too realistic?


I'd take McGee in a heart beat. Not for winning, but just for the entertainment.
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Re: Berman: 12 realistic Knicks free-agent targets 

Post#197 » by newyorker4ever » Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:57 pm

god shammgod wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/NYPost_Berman/status/590542995662974977[/tweet]

looks like if he can get one, it's definitely okafor or towns

So he's definitely sending mixed messages right?? In one quote it sounded like if he doesn't have a chance at one of the bigs then more likely to trade the pick and in this one it sounds like he has a top 4 and if he can't get one of his top 4 he's more likely to trade the pick and there's no way his top 4 are all bigs right?? He's saying if he drops to 5 then he's more likely to trade the pick. Now i'm confusing myself.
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Re: Berman: 12 realistic Knicks free-agent targets 

Post#198 » by god shammgod » Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:58 pm

newyorker4ever wrote:
god shammgod wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/NYPost_Berman/status/590542995662974977[/tweet]

looks like if he can get one, it's definitely okafor or towns

So he's definitely sending mixed messages right?? In one quote it sounded like if he doesn't have a chance at one of the bigs then more likely to trade the pick and in this one it sounds like he has a top 4 and if he can't get one of his top 4 he's more likely to trade the pick in saying if he drops to 5 then more likely to trade pick??


when you put everything he says together, you do end up a little confused
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Re: Berman: 12 realistic Knicks free-agent targets 

Post#199 » by mpharris36 » Tue Apr 21, 2015 6:58 pm

god shammgod wrote:
whether it's shved or someone else, at least he's recognizing that as a need. he didn't seem to realize this before this year began.


with what $$$ could he have addressed this with though? Phil knows basketball he knows where we suck at and where we need to improve. My only concern is him hopefully have a longer term vision. He has mentioned that but I need to see it first.
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Re: Berman: 12 realistic Knicks free-agent targets 

Post#200 » by newyorker4ever » Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:03 pm

god shammgod wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
god shammgod wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/NYPost_Berman/status/590542995662974977[/tweet]

looks like if he can get one, it's definitely okafor or towns

So he's definitely sending mixed messages right?? In one quote it sounded like if he doesn't have a chance at one of the bigs then more likely to trade the pick and in this one it sounds like he has a top 4 and if he can't get one of his top 4 he's more likely to trade the pick in saying if he drops to 5 then more likely to trade pick??


when you put everything he says together, you do end up a little confused

Hahahaha sure is. Do you think he's doing it on purpose or do you think he's trying his hardest to slick talk like a GM does when he talks about the draft and just isn't good at it?? I don't know what the heck he's doing.

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