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Re: Double A embracing a leadership role... 

Post#61 » by New York Knick » Sat Aug 15, 2015 3:11 pm

EL CABRITO wrote:Is it me or is AA the best 2 we've had since H20????


Agree. Is Robin Lopez our best center since Ewing as well?
PG - Jerian Grant/Galloway
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PF - Kristaps Porzingis/O'Quinn
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Re: Double A embracing a leadership role... 

Post#62 » by Stoosh » Sat Aug 15, 2015 3:20 pm

Expecting 12ppg from him with decent defense and 37% from 3. He doesn't have to be the focus of the offense like he was in Orlando so no need for excessive minutes. Let Galloway and Grant play...
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Post#63 » by ctorres » Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:33 pm

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ctorres wrote:I don't care who wants to slap me for saying it...

Afflalo may turn out to be the Knicks 5th best shooting guard ever. Top 4 are Dick Barnett, Earl Monroe, Allan Houston, and John Starks in no order.

Latrell Sprewell wants to choke you for that.


Latrell Sprewell played a lot more minutes at small forward than he did at shooting guard. Therefore, if we're talking all time lists, he would be on the Knicks all time lists for small forwards.
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Post#64 » by nykballa2k4 » Mon Aug 17, 2015 2:32 am

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EL CABRITO wrote:Is it me or is AA the best 2 we've had since H20????


Agree. Is Robin Lopez our best center since Ewing as well?


Tyson Chandler... All-Star, DPOY all as a Knick. RoLo has a long way to go.

I think it's funny that our 2 best centers since Ewing were Curry and Tyson since they were both on the Baby Bulls together (and both quite terrible there).
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Re: Double A embracing a leadership role... 

Post#65 » by New York Knick » Mon Aug 17, 2015 10:13 am

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EL CABRITO wrote:Is it me or is AA the best 2 we've had since H20????


Agree. Is Robin Lopez our best center since Ewing as well?


Tyson Chandler... All-Star, DPOY all as a Knick. RoLo has a long way to go.

Tyson made all-star partly due to a lack of great eastern conference centers. And he recieved the DPOY award partly because of how he changed the defensive mentality of our team. Some say Robin is a better defensive player than Tyson and we know he is better offensively. Would that not make RoLo a better C?

Curry had that beastmode Shaq-tease stretch of games :droop:
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Post#66 » by 3toheadmelo » Mon Aug 17, 2015 9:05 pm

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10363736/arron-afflalo-magical-breakthrough
There's just one thing, and it's the reason Afflalo's breakout year feels like such a breakthrough, and why an All-Star nod is "not the end all, be all."

"A lot of what I'm doing today, I've been able to do for a long time," Afflalo said. "But just based on the teams I was on, it wasn't being asked of me.

"I've always been, more or less, what the team needed. So if you needed scoring, I could do that. If you needed a defender, I could be that. If you needed a shooter, I'll be that."
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Post#67 » by Thugger HBC » Mon Aug 17, 2015 9:24 pm

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Agree. Is Robin Lopez our best center since Ewing as well?


Tyson Chandler... All-Star, DPOY all as a Knick. RoLo has a long way to go.

Tyson made all-star partly due to a lack of great eastern conference centers. And he recieved the DPOY award partly because of how he changed the defensive mentality of our team. Some say Robin is a better defensive player than Tyson and we know he is better offensively. Would that not make RoLo a better C?

Curry had that beastmode Shaq-tease stretch of games :droop:

Tyson made the all-star team because of a lack of centers when the position "center" wasnt even on the ballot? And your reason why Tyson won DPOY is basically the definition of why a player SHOULD win it. Arent they supposed to change the defensive mentality of the team?

RoLo might be a better center than Tyson THIS season, but until the games are played I cant say that yet. But basing it on anything Tyson has done in the past it's a solid no. Tyson averaged a double double in his three years with us.

RoLo hasnt done that in any season in his NBA career.
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Post#68 » by moocow007 » Mon Aug 17, 2015 9:25 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10363736/arron-afflalo-magical-breakthrough
There's just one thing, and it's the reason Afflalo's breakout year feels like such a breakthrough, and why an All-Star nod is "not the end all, be all."

"A lot of what I'm doing today, I've been able to do for a long time," Afflalo said. "But just based on the teams I was on, it wasn't being asked of me.

"I've always been, more or less, what the team needed. So if you needed scoring, I could do that. If you needed a defender, I could be that. If you needed a shooter, I'll be that."


Quick!!! Someone tell Aaron that we need a scorer, defender AND shooter. :D
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Post#69 » by Thugger HBC » Mon Aug 17, 2015 9:28 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10363736/arron-afflalo-magical-breakthrough
There's just one thing, and it's the reason Afflalo's breakout year feels like such a breakthrough, and why an All-Star nod is "not the end all, be all."

"A lot of what I'm doing today, I've been able to do for a long time," Afflalo said. "But just based on the teams I was on, it wasn't being asked of me.

"I've always been, more or less, what the team needed. So if you needed scoring, I could do that. If you needed a defender, I could be that. If you needed a shooter, I'll be that."


Quick!!! Someone tell Aaron that we need a scorer, defender AND shooter. :D

I was thinking the same thing, we need a complete player. Just curious what Denver and Portland ask of him last year.
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Post#70 » by nykballa2k4 » Mon Aug 17, 2015 11:40 pm

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Tyson Chandler... All-Star, DPOY all as a Knick. RoLo has a long way to go.

Tyson made all-star partly due to a lack of great eastern conference centers. And he recieved the DPOY award partly because of how he changed the defensive mentality of our team. Some say Robin is a better defensive player than Tyson and we know he is better offensively. Would that not make RoLo a better C?

Curry had that beastmode Shaq-tease stretch of games :droop:

Tyson made the all-star team because of a lack of centers when the position "center" wasnt even on the ballot? And your reason why Tyson won DPOY is basically the definition of why a player SHOULD win it. Arent they supposed to change the defensive mentality of the team?

RoLo might be a better center than Tyson THIS season, but until the games are played I cant say that yet. But basing it on anything Tyson has done in the past it's a solid no. Tyson averaged a double double in his three years with us.

RoLo hasnt done that in any season in his NBA career.


Also the "some say" argument is worth of a trash can. Tyson has the proven credentials. I love the prospect of Rolo being a good center for this season, but what Tyson accomplished here... Heat invented a term for his lob offense "vertical spacing" meanwhile he was a lock on defense and among the league leaders in rebounds. Robin has a LONG way to supplant that.
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Post#71 » by Thugger HBC » Tue Aug 18, 2015 1:05 am

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New York Knick wrote:Tyson made all-star partly due to a lack of great eastern conference centers. And he recieved the DPOY award partly because of how he changed the defensive mentality of our team. Some say Robin is a better defensive player than Tyson and we know he is better offensively. Would that not make RoLo a better C?

Curry had that beastmode Shaq-tease stretch of games :droop:

Tyson made the all-star team because of a lack of centers when the position "center" wasnt even on the ballot? And your reason why Tyson won DPOY is basically the definition of why a player SHOULD win it. Arent they supposed to change the defensive mentality of the team?

RoLo might be a better center than Tyson THIS season, but until the games are played I cant say that yet. But basing it on anything Tyson has done in the past it's a solid no. Tyson averaged a double double in his three years with us.

RoLo hasnt done that in any season in his NBA career.


Also the "some say" argument is worth of a trash can. Tyson has the proven credentials. I love the prospect of Rolo being a good center for this season, but what Tyson accomplished here... Heat invented a term for his lob offense "vertical spacing" meanwhile he was a lock on defense and among the league leaders in rebounds. Robin has a LONG way to supplant that.

I agree Tyson was alot better than some will credit him with. I do hope RoLo can resemble a center of that importance and value, something quite honestly he hasnt done in his career so far.
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Post#72 » by New York Knick » Thu Aug 20, 2015 2:34 pm

Thugger HBC wrote:Tyson made the all-star team because of a lack of centers when the position "center" wasnt even on the ballot? And your reason why Tyson won DPOY is basically the definition of why a player SHOULD win it. Arent they supposed to change the defensive mentality of the team?

Go ahead and act like you don't know what I mean. Maybe you should win an award for acting.
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Post#73 » by New York Knick » Thu Aug 20, 2015 3:09 pm

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Thugger HBC wrote:... Heat invented a term for his lob offense "vertical spacing" meanwhile he was a lock on defense and among the league leaders in rebounds.

Your argument is rubbish, in fact, it's trash that implies what exactly? That Tyson is somewhat superior to Robin because a team invented a term for a unique offensive ability - "vertical spacing" :lol: I am not sure if you heard but the league has termed an ability that Robin has, it's called "the jump shot". And for the record, Robin has the alley-oop as well.

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Post#74 » by stuporman » Thu Aug 20, 2015 3:23 pm

I invented a term for Tyson, too..... vaginal spacing... because he's a big pussy.
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Post#75 » by New York Knick » Thu Aug 20, 2015 3:59 pm

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RoLo might be a better center than Tyson THIS season...


In other words, I am right. RoLo is probably our best center since Ewing. Whew, talking about going full-circle.
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Post#76 » by GardenFaith » Thu Aug 20, 2015 6:03 pm

It's great to see AA talk like this it really makes a change after having JR here the last few years !
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Post#77 » by CleanChain » Thu Aug 20, 2015 7:25 pm

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EL CABRITO wrote:Is it me or is AA the best 2 we've had since H20????


Agree. Is Robin Lopez our best center since Ewing as well?


You put Lopez above Tyson in his prime?
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Post#78 » by CleanChain » Thu Aug 20, 2015 7:27 pm

GardenFaith wrote:It's great to see AA talk like this it really makes a change after having JR here the last few years !


Exactly! Reminds me of back when kidd was on the team. I don't think people realize how much a positive veteran presence can impact a team. It's just a bonus he's a great scorer...most of the time.
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Post#79 » by BKlutch » Thu Aug 20, 2015 8:07 pm

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EL CABRITO wrote:Is it me or is AA the best 2 we've had since H20????


Agree. Is Robin Lopez our best center since Ewing as well?


You put Lopez above Tyson in his prime?


Maybe he was't our center in his prime.
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Post#80 » by TheBigBoss » Thu Aug 20, 2015 8:22 pm

Marcus Camby >>>> Tyson. Yes he had his injury problems, but he showed up for us in the playoffs, something Tyson never did.

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