It's Time: Fire Phil Jackson

[Jeffrey]

through no fault of his own in his 3 drafts here in NY - 2014, 2015, 2016 - Jackson has had 1 1st round draft pick to use

to his great credit he has not traded the 2017 pick

I think thats all you people need to know to STFU about firing him in between your calls for tanks every year

in contrast the Lakers will have had a top pick the last 3 seasons and cap space
Lets see which team attracts the FAs. Gonna be interesting

Now that Kobe is gone... LA is 10x more attractive than the Knicks.

[Red Vines]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZdErEt0V-w[/youtube]

Bingo.

[Jeffrey]

Some of you guys are ridiculous. At this rate we would be hiring a GM every 2-3 years because

a.) we didn't bring in a star for Melo (many explanations on how superstars work in the NBA)
b.) have no future (but then we have KP)
c.) we demand a coach that we want or we riot

yet lets recap what Phil has done rather than what he has NOT done because it seems like you guys are hoping he rebuilds a WHOLE roster within one offseason and a trade deadline.

1.) Drafted a TRUE superstar .. when was the last time we can say that? SINCE EFFING EWING!!!!!!!!
2.) Signed a center that could be with us for 3 more years AT A REASONABLE contract!
3.) Melo is still here, he still says he wants to stay and stick through this.
4.) Grant looks like a real solid player
5.) Our frontcourt is great! That is easier than fixing the backcourt.
6.) haven't traded one of our future picks
7.) kept flexibility to make sure we are still in the thick of things during the offeason (thank god we didn't get Monroe)

[rammagen]

"Patience" "Give a man a chance" "too early to judge".

Nonsense. The Knicks doesn't have a HC currently, because Phil himself didn't have the same patience, didn't give the man a chance and judged early. Perhaps after two full seasons maybe he's learned something on that front. We'll see soon enough.

The team also has racked up over 100 losses in the same two full seasons, primarily due to it's horrific backcourt rotations. Totally tolerable if the team was rebuilding, but they currently are not. Rebuilding teams normally play their younger guys substantial minutes to assess and let them learn the game in real time.

.Phil is on record saying Grant in particular wasn't ready to help the team win, yet he has Calderon, Afflalo and Sasha who aren't either yet soaked up a huge chunk of the minutes. Playing Grant an extra 12 minutes could not have been worse in the long run than playing those guys 4 minutes less to fit him in. Not sure what Phil saw from his own draft pick that the folks who saw him every day didn't. Regardless, the young man should have played more, but he didn't because Phil dictated that.

So while folks are scared to judge Phil on what he actually has done which is provide a lot of losing and not much developing or cultural improvement...results>>>>>>>>>>hopes and dreams.

Phil needs to get that right or realize this too much for him.

everyone with eyes knew that DF was a completely out of his depth as a head coach. Just look at his rotations statements and even the way he carried himself. My biggest fear is he hires Kurt who is failed as head coach every where except for the time he sat in for Phil with the lakers when they had Kobe and company on one of the last runs they had.

all the coaches mention had some manner of wining as coach at some level except for Kurt/DF/Shaw. That is why he should stay away from them as head coaches

[Amsterdam]

"Patience" "Give a man a chance" "too early to judge".

Nonsense. The Knicks doesn't have a HC currently, because Phil himself didn't have the same patience, didn't give the man a chance and judged early. Perhaps after two full seasons maybe he's learned something on that front. We'll see soon enough.

The team also has racked up over 100 losses in the same two full seasons, primarily due to it's horrific backcourt rotations. Totally tolerable if the team was rebuilding, but they currently are not. Rebuilding teams normally play their younger guys substantial minutes to assess and let them learn the game in real time.

.Phil is on record saying Grant in particular wasn't ready to help the team win, yet he has Calderon, Afflalo and Sasha who aren't either yet soaked up a huge chunk of the minutes. Playing Grant an extra 12 minutes could not have been worse in the long run than playing those guys 4 minutes less to fit him in. Not sure what Phil saw from his own draft pick that the folks who saw him every day didn't. Regardless, the young man should have played more, but he didn't because Phil dictated that.

So while folks are scared to judge Phil on what he actually has done which is provide a lot of losing and not much developing or cultural improvement...results>>>>>>>>>>hopes and dreams.

Phil needs to get that right or realize this too much for him.

Bro your argument is baseless regarding Grant. Grant WAS NOT ready to play big minutes. At the end of the year Grant improved his jumper by making the release quicker. This is night and day and a HUGE difference from the start. Phil was right about Grant and NOW Grant may be a very valuable contributor for us.

BTW, just cleaning the house of CAA was a awe-inspiring and tremendous accomplishment.

This agency was practically running MSG and cost us a#1 pick. Their main concern was their signees and not the Knicks.
This was probably Phil's bigest accomplishment since I'm certain CAA had Dolan on the run. CAA was costing the team money, perhaps cost the team Lin and other potentially good players , remember how even Mike Woodson in order to get the head coaching job ad to dropped his long time agent and sign with CAA? This was MSG. CAA was NEVER going to let the team bring in anyone other than CAA players.

Dolan couldn't liberate himself from CAA and many here were even calling for demonstrations, remember? Although the fans here knew what was up, most acted ignorant about that agencies stranglehold.
Phil Jackson was the only man out there with the balls and resume to disinfect the New York Knicks from CAA's infiltration. . And Phil Jackson did it dammit! CAA lost millions and certainly haven't gone out quietly.

Have any of you had to restructure an entire organization with billions of $$$$. Perhaps.
If so, you would be amazed at how Jackson and the front office are carefully building the foundation of this company.
2 years and you guys are yaking...hahaha

[Thugger HBC]

"Patience" "Give a man a chance" "too early to judge".

Nonsense. The Knicks doesn't have a HC currently, because Phil himself didn't have the same patience, didn't give the man a chance and judged early. Perhaps after two full seasons maybe he's learned something on that front. We'll see soon enough.

The team also has racked up over 100 losses in the same two full seasons, primarily due to it's horrific backcourt rotations. Totally tolerable if the team was rebuilding, but they currently are not. Rebuilding teams normally play their younger guys substantial minutes to assess and let them learn the game in real time.

.Phil is on record saying Grant in particular wasn't ready to help the team win, yet he has Calderon, Afflalo and Sasha who aren't either yet soaked up a huge chunk of the minutes. Playing Grant an extra 12 minutes could not have been worse in the long run than playing those guys 4 minutes less to fit him in. Not sure what Phil saw from his own draft pick that the folks who saw him every day didn't. Regardless, the young man should have played more, but he didn't because Phil dictated that.

So while folks are scared to judge Phil on what he actually has done which is provide a lot of losing and not much developing or cultural improvement...results>>>>>>>>>>hopes and dreams.

Phil needs to get that right or realize this too much for him.

Bro your argumant is baseless regarding Grant. Grant WAS NOT ready to play big minutes. At the end of the year Grant improved his jumper by making the release quicker. This is night and day and a HUGE difference from the start. Phil was right about Grant and NOW Grant may be a very valuable contributor for us.

I didn't realize playing an extra 12 minutes equaled big minutes. He played over 20 minutes in 25 games this season. The point is he should have been playing more....period. I'm actually shocked anyone would seriously disagree with that.

Phil was 100% wrong because of what he said. None of our guards were playing winning basketball, but that's the reason he cited for not playing Grant. "Not ready to contribute to winning". yet Grant even with no jumpshot did play winning style of basketball even if I just cite ability to attack the rim...which none of other guards do.

BTW, just cleaning the house of CAA was tremendous. This agency was practically running MSG and cost us a#1 pick. Their main concern was their signees and not the Knicks.
This was probably Phil's bigest accomplishment since I'm certain CAA went viral and went full blast with lies with their contacts in the NY media.

Dolan couldn't liberate hinself from CAA and many here were even calling for demonstrations, remember?
Phil Jackson was the only man out there with the balls and resume to disinfect the New York Knicks from CAA's infiltration. . And Phil Jackson did it dammit! CAA lost millions and certainly haven't gone out quietly.

Have any of you had to restructure an entire organization with billions of $$$$. Perhaps.
If so, you would be amazed at how Jackson and the front office are carefully building the foundation of this company.
2 years and you guys are yaking...hahaha

The CAA execs are still here, not sure what you're referring to. Warkentein is still in office and H20 is running the d-league affiliate.

Dolan also hired a CAA person to run the entire Madison Square garden Corp in O'Connor in 2015 right in Phil's face.

So I guess this "big accomplishment" really didn't happen, but perhaps maybe this has legs though.

Thibbs is repped by CAA...so is Kevin Durant by way of Roc Nation.

[prophet_of_rage]

"Patience" "Give a man a chance" "too early to judge".

Nonsense. The Knicks doesn't have a HC currently, because Phil himself didn't have the same patience, didn't give the man a chance and judged early. Perhaps after two full seasons maybe he's learned something on that front. We'll see soon enough.

The team also has racked up over 100 losses in the same two full seasons, primarily due to it's horrific backcourt rotations. Totally tolerable if the team was rebuilding, but they currently are not. Rebuilding teams normally play their younger guys substantial minutes to assess and let them learn the game in real time.

.Phil is on record saying Grant in particular wasn't ready to help the team win, yet he has Calderon, Afflalo and Sasha who aren't either yet soaked up a huge chunk of the minutes. Playing Grant an extra 12 minutes could not have been worse in the long run than playing those guys 4 minutes less to fit him in. Not sure what Phil saw from his own draft pick that the folks who saw him every day didn't. Regardless, the young man should have played more, but he didn't because Phil dictated that.

So while folks are scared to judge Phil on what he actually has done which is provide a lot of losing and not much developing or cultural improvement...results>>>>>>>>>>hopes and dreams.

Phil needs to get that right or realize this too much for him.

Bro your argumant is baseless regarding Grant. Grant WAS NOT ready to play big minutes. At the end of the year Grant improved his jumper by making the release quicker. This is night and day and a HUGE difference from the start. Phil was right about Grant and NOW Grant may be a very valuable contributor for us.

I didn't realize playing an extra 12 minutes equaled big minutes. He played over 20 minutes in 25 games this season. The point is he should have been playing more....period. I'm actually shocked anyone would seriously disagree with that.

Phil was 100% wrong because of what he said. None of our guards were playing winning basketball, but that's the reason he cited for not playing Grant. "Not ready to contribute to winning". yet Grant even with no jumpshot did play winning style of basketball even if I just cite ability to attack the rim...which none of other guards do.

BTW, just cleaning the house of CAA was tremendous. This agency was practically running MSG and cost us a#1 pick. Their main concern was their signees and not the Knicks.
This was probably Phil's bigest accomplishment since I'm certain CAA went viral and went full blast with lies with their contacts in the NY media.

Dolan couldn't liberate hinself from CAA and many here were even calling for demonstrations, remember?
Phil Jackson was the only man out there with the balls and resume to disinfect the New York Knicks from CAA's infiltration. . And Phil Jackson did it dammit! CAA lost millions and certainly haven't gone out quietly.

Have any of you had to restructure an entire organization with billions of $$$$. Perhaps.
If so, you would be amazed at how Jackson and the front office are carefully building the foundation of this company.
2 years and you guys are yaking...hahaha

The CAA execs are still here, not sure what you're referring to. Warkentein is still in office and H20 is running the d-league affiliate.

So I guess this "big accomplishment" really didn't happen.

And all it meant were Phil cronies being hired instead of potential CAA clients.




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[Knicks Byke]

Phil aint hiring rambis guys, but at the same timd thats his boy so he wont kill him in the media.

[Amsterdam]

"Patience" "Give a man a chance" "too early to judge".

Nonsense. The Knicks doesn't have a HC currently, because Phil himself didn't have the same patience, didn't give the man a chance and judged early. Perhaps after two full seasons maybe he's learned something on that front. We'll see soon enough.

The team also has racked up over 100 losses in the same two full seasons, primarily due to it's horrific backcourt rotations. Totally tolerable if the team was rebuilding, but they currently are not. Rebuilding teams normally play their younger guys substantial minutes to assess and let them learn the game in real time.

.Phil is on record saying Grant in particular wasn't ready to help the team win, yet he has Calderon, Afflalo and Sasha who aren't either yet soaked up a huge chunk of the minutes. Playing Grant an extra 12 minutes could not have been worse in the long run than playing those guys 4 minutes less to fit him in. Not sure what Phil saw from his own draft pick that the folks who saw him every day didn't. Regardless, the young man should have played more, but he didn't because Phil dictated that.

So while folks are scared to judge Phil on what he actually has done which is provide a lot of losing and not much developing or cultural improvement...results>>>>>>>>>>hopes and dreams.

Phil needs to get that right or realize this too much for him.

Bro your argumant is baseless regarding Grant. Grant WAS NOT ready to play big minutes. At the end of the year Grant improved his jumper by making the release quicker. This is night and day and a HUGE difference from the start. Phil was right about Grant and NOW Grant may be a very valuable contributor for us.

I didn't realize playing an extra 12 minutes equaled big minutes. He played over 20 minutes in 25 games this season. The point is he should have been playing more....period. I'm actually shocked anyone would seriously disagree with that.

Phil was 100% wrong because of what he said. None of our guards were playing winning basketball, but that's the reason he cited for not playing Grant. "Not ready to contribute to winning". yet Grant even with no jumpshot did play winning style of basketball even if I just cite ability to attack the rim...which none of other guards do.

BTW, just cleaning the house of CAA was tremendous. This agency was practically running MSG and cost us a#1 pick. Their main concern was their signees and not the Knicks.
This was probably Phil's bigest accomplishment since I'm certain CAA went viral and went full blast with lies with their contacts in the NY media.

Dolan couldn't liberate hinself from CAA and many here were even calling for demonstrations, remember?
Phil Jackson was the only man out there with the balls and resume to disinfect the New York Knicks from CAA's infiltration. . And Phil Jackson did it dammit! CAA lost millions and certainly haven't gone out quietly.

Have any of you had to restructure an entire organization with billions of $$$$. Perhaps.
If so, you would be amazed at how Jackson and the front office are carefully building the foundation of this company.
2 years and you guys are yaking...hahaha

The CAA execs are still here, not sure what you're referring to. Warkentein is still in office and H20 is running the d-league affiliate.

So I guess this "big accomplishment" really didn't happen, but perhaps maybe this has legs though.

Thibbs is repped by CAA...so is Kevin Durant by way of Roc Nation.

Stop it. Being a player or exec under CAA contract and having the agency run the entire organization for their own benefit and not the NY Knicks' s benefit are different things ...no?

[Thugger HBC]

Stop it. Being a player or exec under CAA contract and having the agency run the entire organization for their own benefit and not the NY Knicks' s benefit are different things ...no?

Let me walk you through this carefully......

Garden Hires New President From Agency With Knick Ties


By RICHARD SANDOMIRJUNE 30, 2015

Madison Square Garden on Tuesday hired David O’Connor, a longtime executive of the Creative Artists Agency, as its new president and chief executive.

Hiring O’Connor, who is known as Doc, is a reminder of how influential C.A.A. has been, at times, with the Knicks. It represents Carmelo Anthony. J. R. Smith, who was traded to Cleveland in January, is a client, as is Andrea Bargnani, who is an unrestricted free agent and is unlikely to return to the team after two desultory, injury-marred seasons.

The agency’s clients also include two Knicks executives, Allan Houston and Mark Warkentien. C.A.A. represents Mike Woodson, the team’s former coach, as well. A Knicks player told ESPN last year that C.A.A. ties created problems in the Knicks’ locker room.

That Knicks player I have no doubts was Amare, but this notion that Phil cleaned up house is the biggest myth known to man.

MSG is ran by CAA...that indicates they do run the entire organization. They also have a huge hold on the league.

So you, as a fan, wouldnt want Thibbs or Durant or the current Karl Anthony Towns because they are repped by CAA? By the way, Phil wanted Pau and Willie Cauley Stein....take a guess who they are repped by.

[Amsterdam]

Stop it. Being a player or exec under CAA contract and having the agency run the entire organization for their own benefit and not the NY Knicks' s benefit are different things ...no?

Let me walk you through this carefully......

Garden Hires New President From Agency With Knick Ties


By RICHARD SANDOMIRJUNE 30, 2015

Madison Square Garden on Tuesday hired David O’Connor, a longtime executive of the Creative Artists Agency, as its new president and chief executive.

Hiring O’Connor, who is known as Doc, is a reminder of how influential C.A.A. has been, at times, with the Knicks. It represents Carmelo Anthony. J. R. Smith, who was traded to Cleveland in January, is a client, as is Andrea Bargnani, who is an unrestricted free agent and is unlikely to return to the team after two desultory, injury-marred seasons.

The agency’s clients also include two Knicks executives, Allan Houston and Mark Warkentien. C.A.A. represents Mike Woodson, the team’s former coach, as well. A Knicks player told ESPN last year that C.A.A. ties created problems in the Knicks’ locker room.

That Knicks player I have no doubts was Amare, but this notion that Phil cleaned up house is the biggest myth known to man.

MSG is ran by CAA...that indicates they do run the entire organization. They also have a huge hold on the league.

So you, as a fan, wouldnt want Thibbs or Durant or the current Karl Anthony Towns because they are repped by CAA? By the way, Phil wanted Pau and Willie Cauley Stein....take a guess who they are repped by.

So you're interpreting what I posted as not wanting the players. Hahaha
BTW , your post only proves what I wrote about CAA is absolutely correct. They are a virus in MSG, players and others state it also.

Given your post, it's even more amazing Phil Jackson is building the foundation correctly.. Thank you for the insight and giving more reason to admire his job.

[Thugger HBC]

Stop it. Being a player or exec under CAA contract and having the agency run the entire organization for their own benefit and not the NY Knicks' s benefit are different things ...no?

Let me walk you through this carefully......

Garden Hires New President From Agency With Knick Ties


By RICHARD SANDOMIRJUNE 30, 2015

Madison Square Garden on Tuesday hired David O’Connor, a longtime executive of the Creative Artists Agency, as its new president and chief executive.

Hiring O’Connor, who is known as Doc, is a reminder of how influential C.A.A. has been, at times, with the Knicks. It represents Carmelo Anthony. J. R. Smith, who was traded to Cleveland in January, is a client, as is Andrea Bargnani, who is an unrestricted free agent and is unlikely to return to the team after two desultory, injury-marred seasons.

The agency’s clients also include two Knicks executives, Allan Houston and Mark Warkentien. C.A.A. represents Mike Woodson, the team’s former coach, as well. A Knicks player told ESPN last year that C.A.A. ties created problems in the Knicks’ locker room.

That Knicks player I have no doubts was Amare, but this notion that Phil cleaned up house is the biggest myth known to man.

MSG is ran by CAA...that indicates they do run the entire organization. They also have a huge hold on the league.

So you, as a fan, wouldnt want Thibbs or Durant or the current Karl Anthony Towns because they are repped by CAA? By the way, Phil wanted Pau and Willie Cauley Stein....take a guess who they are repped by.

So you're interpreting what I posted as not wanting the players. Hahaha
Given you post, it's even more amazing Phil Jackson is building the foundation correctly, is even more amazing. Thank you for the insight and giving more reason to admire his job.

The only cleaning Phil did was what he controls.....the roster and associated things like coaching, and so far he's been more awful than great in those areas so he hasn't actually built any foundation at all. He's still in the drawing the plans stage.

Phil cannot control whats above him nor lateral.

So either you're not sure of what you're talking about or just did not know. Phil hasn't cleaned the Knicks of CAA control....they are still there. They are even in the places Phil has control over like the D-league...H20 says "Hello, I'm still here".

CAA is primarily here now to sustain the business value while Phil continues to flounder. Despite the losing the Knicks and MSG in particular are at an all-time high.

Dolan is the man.

[Red Vines]

Phil aint hiring rambis guys, but at the same timd thats his boy so he wont kill him in the media.

No but you know that's who he really wants. If everyone kept quiet he would make him head coach.

[Amsterdam]

Let me walk you through this carefully......



That Knicks player I have no doubts was Amare, but this notion that Phil cleaned up house is the biggest myth known to man.

MSG is ran by CAA...that indicates they do run the entire organization. They also have a huge hold on the league.

So you, as a fan, wouldnt want Thibbs or Durant or the current Karl Anthony Towns bemcause they are repped by CAA? By the way, Phil wanted Pau and Willie Cauley Stein....take a guess who they are repped by.

So you're interpreting what I posted as not wanting the players. Hahaha
Given you post, it's even more amazing Phil Jackson is building the foundation correctly, is even more amazing. Thank you for the insight and giving more reason to admire his job.

The only cleaning Phil did was what he controls.....the roster and associated things like coaching, and so far he's been more awful than great in those areas so he hasn't actually built any foundation at all. He's still in the drawing the plans stage.

Phil cannot control whats above him nor lateral.

So either you're not sure of what you're talking about or just did not know. Phil hasn't cleaned the Knicks of CAA control....they are still there. They are even in the places Phil has control over like the D-league...H20 says "Hello, I'm still here".

CAA is primarily here now to sustain the business value while Phil continues to flounder. Despite the losing the Knicks and MSG in particular are at an all-time high.

Dolan is the man.

Dolan is the man because he believes in Phil Jackson more than ever. Haha

[Thugger HBC]

As long as Phil cant affect the Knicks value, Dolan wont have any issues. Phil is no different than any other big name that Dolan has hired before, other than being least experienced in the position than all of the rest.

[Dr. Detfink]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVUohfPsSXQ[/youtube]

I feel like Jay at this point, watching the Knicks...helpless...not sure what to expect out of the team but desperately hoping something good to come out of it.

[Amsterdam]

As long as Phil cant affect the Knicks value, Dolan wont have any issues. Phil is no different than any other big name that Dolan has hired before, other than being least experienced in the position than all of the rest.

You know Bro, put it this way. Phil Jackson is my obvious choice to lead this team out the circus we've had for years and years. But that's me.

Why don't you give me a name for a President of Basketball Ops and who wants to deal with the most critical and vicious fanbase and media in all of sports not soccer.

Even the great Jeff VanGundy walked away mid season. Legendary Pat Riley left after a blown Finals as to not deal with what was awaiting him back here. Left for a less pressure environment in Miami.

Joe Torre was regularly questioned at the end.
Derek Jeter rarely if ever spoke to the media.
Pat Ewing was vilified regularly.

That you are throwing sht on Phil Jackson is nothing new, just more current but the same ole same ole fan drama.

[Phish Tank]

Just as a caveat with regards to CAA: not only is CAA an influential presence in the league, but it also has a stronghold in the entertainment business. Since more than half of MSG Corp's revenues are derived from entertainment/show business, it probably makes sense to have someone with connections to CAA. MSG as an entertainment arm is much more important to dolan than the Knicks.

Only thing Phil may have done with CAA is not getting them out of MSG, but rather got rid of the negative influences that had an stronghold on the organization that had ties to CAA (which funny enough was only really Mike Woodson and JR Smith). Though we still have one or JR's trainer buddies on the squad , Chris Brickley, but I think he actually has some skills and talent and isn't just a hack.

CAA influence is just like lebrons influence on the cavs


Sent from the phish tank

[Thugger HBC]

As long as Phil cant affect the Knicks value, Dolan wont have any issues. Phil is no different than any other big name that Dolan has hired before, other than being least experienced in the position than all of the rest.

You know Bro, put it this way. Phil Jackson is my obvious choice to lead this team out the circus we've had for years and years. But that's me.

And that's fine, you're entitled to that. I don't think Phil has shown he can do those things. I see a similar circus coupled with lots of losing.

But that's just me.

Why don't you give me a name for a President of Basketball Ops and who wants to deal with the most critical and vicious fanbase and media in all of sports not soccer.

I'll do you one better. I know a coach that wants the job of coach AND would gladly take on the dual role. Kill two birds with one stone.

Even the great Jeff VanGundy walked away mid season. Legendary Pat Riley left after a blown Finals as to not deal with what was awaiting him back here. Left for a less pressure environment in Miami.

I see the issue here, you really don't know what happened. JVG admitted he made a mistake and has done everything to reconcile, and has never bad mouthed Dolan, even called him a good owner to work for. Has any exec badmouthed Dolan? Pat Riley wanted what the Knicks couldn't give...primarily ownership.

Riley had no issues with the Knicks, no need to make things up. Riley wanted to revolutionize the game, he wanted more than what coaches normally were given. Riley already had roster control, that's how Mase and Starks were brought in and I think Bonner as well.

He got everything he waned in Miami.

Joe Torre was regularly questioned at the end.
Derek Jeter rarely if ever spoke to the media.
Pat Ewing was vilified regularly.

You're gonna be questioned when you lose, not sure why you see an issue with that.

Do you honestly think a team that has lost over 100 games under your tenure shouldn't be questioned at all?

The Yankees started to lose their championship dominance, if you aren't winning anymore people are gonna talk. Jeter had no reason to address the media...he did it with his play. Jeter's leadership nor production ever have been questioned because he always performed.

That you are throwing sht on Phil Jackson is nothing new, just more current but the same ole same ole fan drama.

Phil is throwing it on himself. I haven't racked up 100+ losses. I'm not searching for a third HC in two years. I didnt assemble the worst backcourt in the NBA. This team is 100% Phil. You cats act like Phil is on the stake like a martyr who did no wrong.

Has he been a complete failure? Certainly not. But this notion that Phil has done great and is above criticism is ridiculous.

Winning silences all. Phil knows this better than anyone. Once that happens, talk will die down naturally.

[HerSports85]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZdErEt0V-w[/youtube]

I said it before, Pop and Riley were better coaches to me because of the ability to adapt and win in different systems. Anyway this video was spot on. Phil refuses to adjust and talks down **** like he knows everything. Yet, for the last few seasons,rather it' with the knicks or speaking on other teams/players (curry) he's been wrong. His arrogance is getting the best of him.