OT Will Whiteside be better than Mutumbo?

RHODEY · Post #1 » by **RHODEY** » Tue May 3, 2016 4:51 am

I noticed some similarities between the two. Hassan has been very impressive for the last couple of seasons. What do you guys think?

Post #2 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Tue May 3, 2016 5:06 am

Post #3 » by **GONYK** » Tue May 3, 2016 5:16 am

No

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NYKnickerbocker · Post #4 » by **NYKnickerbocker** » Tue May 3, 2016 5:24 am

mutumbo was smarter and more mature. i think whiteside might have a bit more talent, but he'll never harness it all.

gavran · Post #5 » by **gavran** » Tue May 3, 2016 6:37 am

Mutombo was a great defender. Whiteside blocks shots.

MaseInYourFace · Post #6 » by **MaseInYourFace** » Tue May 3, 2016 10:48 am

Uhh no. Whiteside is just an athletic freak.

rygar · Post #7 » by **rygar** » Tue May 3, 2016 12:13 pm

LMAO what kind of question is this. It's like comparing Afflalo to Kobe. Prime Mutombo would be the best center in the league.

ChilledAlex · Post #8 » by **ChilledAlex** » Tue May 3, 2016 12:38 pm

rygar wrote:LMAO what kind of question is this. It's like comparing Afflalo to Kobe. Prime Mutombo would be the best center in the league.

lets not exaggerate :lol:

Mr_Perfect · Post #9 » by **Mr_Perfect** » Tue May 3, 2016 12:43 pm

ChilledAlex wrote:
rygar wrote:LMAO what kind of question is this. It's like comparing Afflalo to Kobe. Prime Mutombo would be the best center in the league.

lets not exaggerate

Actually he's probably right.

Prime Mutombo in today's NBA would wreck everyone. The league doesn't have many strong centers anymore. Why do you think Deandre Jordan puts up Mutombo numbers but isn't anywhere close to his talent?

ChilledAlex · Post #10 » by **ChilledAlex** » Tue May 3, 2016 1:27 pm

Mr_Perfect wrote:
ChilledAlex wrote:
rygar wrote:LMAO what kind of question is this. It's like comparing Afflalo to Kobe. Prime Mutombo would be the best center in the league.

lets not exaggerate

Actually he's probably right.

Prime Mutombo in today's NBA would wreck everyone. The league doesn't have many strong centers anymore. Why do you think Deandre Jordan puts up Mutombo numbers but isn't anywhere close to his talent?

Come on.. Mutombo is less athletic version of DJ and honestly nostalgia is good thing but let's not exaggerate that he was some exceptional talent except for countless blocks that would be goaltending or foul these days.

Dr. Detfink · Post #11 » by **Dr. Detfink** » Tue May 3, 2016 1:36 pm

He'll make more money than Mutumbo.

MaseInYourFace · Post #12 » by **MaseInYourFace** » Tue May 3, 2016 1:37 pm

Mutumbo was a very good player and was pretty athletic when he was young. Yeah prime Dikembe would probably be best center in current nba. Only Anthony Davis is clearly better if you count him as a center.

Post #13 » by **moocow007** » Tue May 3, 2016 1:39 pm

Answer would be 'No'.

Whiteside needs to get over his biggest enemy to be in discussion of being better than Mutombo. That enemy? Himself. He's the type of guy that gets in his own way and derails himself. Immature, hotheaded, not focused and (from his physical appearances) not a gym rat. Guys like that tend to not have a long sustainable peak career.

As far as Mutombo goes, I think folks that never really followed him and watched him play, look at his stats, see that it's not Shaq or Kareem or Hakeem like stats and make some assumptions that probably shouldn't be made. Mutombo impacted games more so than just about anyone in his era defensively in the NBA. Things that you can't see by looking at stats like ppg, rpg, etc.

Post #14 » by **j4remi** » Tue May 3, 2016 1:46 pm

Consider the competition at C when Mutombo was the dominant defensive presence in the middle and consider the competition inside now...Whiteside is really good for this era; Mutombo would be a dominant presence in any era.

rygar · Post #15 » by **rygar** » Tue May 3, 2016 2:14 pm

ChilledAlex wrote:
rygar wrote:LMAO what kind of question is this. It's like comparing Afflalo to Kobe. Prime Mutombo would be the best center in the league.

lets not exaggerate

Ok, top 2 with Cousins. You can go either way depending what your team needs. Mutombo was a really dominant defensive player and a great rebounder.

Hassan and DeAndre are probably two of the most overrated defensive bigs of all time. Great alley oop targets, nice shotblocking, terrible passers, very low basketball IQ. Can't believe why they get so much recognition in all nba/all defensive voting. I guess it's because of the fancy stats and highlight plays. But if you want to win I actually prefer a hardworking, intelligent guy like RoLo over both of them.

Post #16 » by **dakomish23** » Tue May 3, 2016 2:25 pm

gavran wrote:Mutombo was a great defender. Whiteside blocks shots.

nykfan42 · Post #17 » by **nykfan42** » Tue May 3, 2016 2:35 pm

No and no. Oh and no. Mutombo was and will be better. Without question. Whiteside will be a flash in the pan once he gets paid. Or at least he will be overpaid.

nykfan42 · Post #18 » by **nykfan42** » Tue May 3, 2016 2:40 pm

Just felt like looking at his stats for fun and didn't realize he only played in Philly for 1.5 seasons. Thought it was longer than that.

SelbyCobra · Post #19 » by **SelbyCobra** » Tue May 3, 2016 2:56 pm

MaseInYourFace wrote:Uhh no. Whiteside is just an athletic freak.

Hmmm. Young Dikembe was basically KP's size, but with much more wiry strength and raw athleticism. He could run the floor like a gazelle and often times would beat small forwards down the floor on the break. He would also routinely pick up guards on the perimeter and follow them to the rim on defense. I think a lot of people in this thread don't know what early/mid twenties Mutumbo looked like on the court.

I think the other problem Mutumbo runs into in a debate like this is that the natural aesthetics of his athleticism were awkward. He looked a bit herky-jerky and sometimes even clumsy, but most of the time he was the most physically gifted/athletic guy on the court. His second jump was lightning quick, and despite the appearance of awkwardness/recklessness he had the most gentle blocks - the ball was kept in play and available for himself or his teammates.

MaseInYourFace · Post #20 » by **MaseInYourFace** » Tue May 3, 2016 3:03 pm

SelbyCobra wrote:
MaseInYourFace wrote:Uhh no. Whiteside is just an athletic freak.

Hmmm. Young Dikembe was basically KP's size, but with much more wiry strength and raw athleticism. He could run the floor like a gazelle and often times would beat small forwards down the floor on the break. He would also routinely pick up guards on the perimeter and follow them to the rim on defense. I think a lot of people in this thread don't know what early/mid twenties Mutumbo looked like on the court.

I think the other problem Mutumbo runs into in a debate like this is that the natural aesthetics of his athleticism were awkward. He looked a bit herky-jerky and sometimes even clumsy, but most of the time he was the most physically gifted/athletic guy on the court. His second jump was lightning quick, and despite the appearance of awkwardness/recklessness he had the most gentle blocks - the ball was kept in play and available for himself or his teammates.

Umm look at my other post. I said young mutumbo was athletic.