Official NY Yankees Thread

[Dr. Detfink]

White Sox and Nationals are pretty close to moving Chris Sale. I don't think Ca$h is into temperamental guys. He wasn't a fan of David Wells, Gary Sheffield...more of a Carl Pavano, Kei Igawa, AJ Burnett, Javier Vasquez kind of guy.

My worry, Ca$h will trade 3-4 top prospects for Justin Verlander who is a good teammate, still pitches well but does not have the invincibility he once had due to over use.

[bishnykfan]

Verlander goes against everything Cashman has done in the last two or three years. I don't see him making a move for a 34 year old pitcher.

And I'm happy he isn't giving up three of our top prospects for Sale. The Nationals are much closer to the World Series then we are. Let them give up the prospects and we'll build through our core youth the way we did in the 90s.

[damedash09]

yea it would be stupid to give up good prospects for a 34 yr old pitcher with a lot of mileage on his body. The Tigers are smart for selling high right now, Yanks shouldn't bite/

They need to be all over this guy. http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2016/12/4/13838632/shohei-otani-nippon-posting-mlb-2018. Next seasons free agent starting pool is much better

[swisscheeseD]

Looks like the Sawx traded Mocada plus for Sale.

[JXL]

Looks like the Sawx traded Mocada plus for Sale.

[Dr. Detfink]

To be honest, I don't care. Sawx got their butt kicked by the Indians and proved they overpaid for David Price. Pretty much the Sawx are trying to squeeze out one more run.

The Yanks are still a couple seasons away from contending. They need Torres and Frazier to come into the picture before they start making noise.

[Polk377]

Trading Moncada for Sale was a bad long term move for Boston but puts them as favorites in the AL this year. Moncada was a great pick up for Chicago to rebuild with. Kid has a lot of potential.

[Knickfan1982]

Trading Moncada for Sale was a bad long term move for Boston but puts them as favorites in the AL this year. Moncada was a great pick up for Chicago to rebuild with. Kid has a lot of potential.

I like all four of the guys they gave up for him. Pretty good haul for the ChiSox.

Yoan Moncada | Rank: 1 (Preseason: 1)
Team: Boston Red Sox ETA: 2016 Position: 2B/3B Age: 21 DOB: 05/27/1995 Bats: S Throws: R Height: 6' 2" Weight: 205 lb.
Signed: March 12, 2015 - BOS
Other Lists: Top 100 Prospects (#1), Top 10 2B Prospects (#1)
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Scouting grades: Hit: 60 | Power: 55 | Run: 65 | Arm: 60 | Field: 50 | Overall: 65
The most-hyped teenaged prospect to come out of Cuba since Jorge Soler, Moncada signed last March for $31.5 million, nearly doubling the previous record bonus for an amateur player (Aroldis Chapman's $16.25 million in 2010). The Red Sox also had to pay a matching penalty for blowing past their international bonus pool, but so far the total $63 million expenditure looks well worth it. He has shown the dynamic tools package Boston paid for while reaching the big leagues at the end of his second pro season.
Few middle infielders can match Moncada's huge offensive ceiling, which earns him comparisons to Robinson Cano with more speed. He's a switch-hitter with outstanding bat speed who makes consistent hard contact from both sides of the plate. Moncada has added some loft to his swing in 2016 and has the potential for 20-25 home runs per season.
Moncada's best pure tool is his well-above-average speed, which he has put to good use with back-to-back 45-steal seasons and an 86 percent success rate in the Minors. His quickness doesn't translate consistently as well in the field, though he has the range and arm strength to play almost anywhere on the diamond he might be needed. He spent most of his first two pro seasons at second base, though with the Red Sox having Dustin Pedroia signed through 2021, they moved Moncada to third base in mid-August.


Michael Kopech | Rank: 5 (Preseason: 5)
Team: Salem Red Sox (A Adv) ETA: 2018 Position: RHP Age: 20 DOB: 04/30/1996 Bats: R Throws: R Height: 6' 3" Weight: 205 lb.
Drafted: 2014, 1st (33) - BOS
Other Lists: Top 100 Prospects (#67)
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Scouting grades: Fastball: 75 | Slider: 55 | Changeup: 50 | Control: 45 | Overall: 55
The Red Sox have a terrible track record of drafting high school right-handers in the first round -- only two of their first seven reached the big leagues, "highlighted" by No. 3 overall choice Mike Garman -- and had avoided doing so for 18 years before popping Kopech at No. 33 overall in 2014. Signed for $1.5 million, he overpowered low Class A hitters in 2015 before drawing a 50-game suspension in mid-July after testing positive for a banned stimulant. This year, he has made headlines both bad (breaking his pitching hand in a fight with a teammate during Spring Training, sidelining himself for three months) and good (hitting 105 mph with his fastball three starts after he returned).
Few Minor League starters have a better fastball than Kopech, who sits at 95-97 mph and reaches triple digits with nasty late life. His breaking ball also can look make hitters look bad, as he has refined what once was a hybrid pitch into a slider that reaches the low 90s. The silver lining with his suspension is that it gave him some time to work on his changeup outside of game action, and it shows signs of becoming a weapon with late drop at the plate.
The Red Sox also used Kopech's mandated time off to work on toning down his delivery, which had featured a lot of twists and turns and some deep tilt in the back. He was athletic enough to pull that off but should have an easier time repeating his simplified mechanics. He's a potential frontline starter who'll move as quickly as he develops control and command.

Luis Alexander Basabe | Rank: 8 (Preseason: 8)
Team: Salem Red Sox (A Adv) ETA: 2018 Position: OF Age: 20 DOB: 08/26/1996 Bats: S Throws: R Height: 6' 0" Weight: 160 lb.
Signed: Aug. 26, 2012
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Scouting grades: Hit: 45 | Power: 55 | Run: 60 | Arm: 60 | Field: 55 | Overall: 50
Signing the Bogaerts twins worked out well for the Red Sox, and they found another possible star when they landed the identical Basabe twins with matching $450,000 bonuses out of Venezuela in 2012. Outfielder Luis Alexander since has outpaced middle infielder Luis Alejandro (sent to the Diamondbacks in a July trade for Brad Ziegler) as a prospect, ranking third in the short-season New York-Penn League with seven homers last summer despite being its third-youngest regular at age 18. He became the first player in Lowell's 20-year history to homer from both sides of the plate in one game, doing so in June and again in July.
Though he still has a long ways to go at the plate, Basabe is a switch-hitting center fielder with five-tool potential. He's not physically imposing but already generates impressive power with bat speed and strong forearms and wrists, and he should have more once he adds some muscle. He shows some signs of plate discipline, but needs to improve his pitch recognition so he can make consistent contact and maximize his considerable offensive potential.
Basabe has plus speed and presently shows better instincts on the bases, where he's a threat to steal, than he does in the outfield, where his reads and routes can be rough. First-round pick Andrew Benintendi pushed him to right field when both were in Lowell, though Basabe should be able to play center field as he adds polish. His strong arm and power will profile well in right if he has to move there.




Victor Diaz | Rank: 28 (Preseason: NR)
Team: Greenville Drive (A) ETA: 2020 Position: RHP Age: 22 DOB: 05/24/1994 Bats: R Throws: R Height: 6' 3" Weight: 190 lb.
Signed: Dec. 12, 2014 - BOS
Scouting grades: Fastball: 70 | Slider: 50 | Splitter: 50 | Control: 40 | Overall: 45
Signed for a mere $10,000 out of the Dominican Republic in 2014, Diaz created a stir when his fastball reached 102 mph during his pro debut in the Rookie-level Dominican Summer League the following year. He struggled when he jumped to the United States and low Class A in 2016, though he finished by not allowing a run in his final 16 appearances while striking out 31 in 23 2/3 innings.
Diaz's fastball usually sits at 95-98 mph and continues to peak in the triple digits. His heater has some late life to go with its impressive velocity, and it elicits swings and misses in the strike zone -- when he finds the strike zone. He also has a pair of intriguing, though inconsistent, power secondary pitches in a short slider and a splitter that both range from 88-93 mph.
Diaz is still learning to harness his stuff. He has a lot of effort in his delivery, which hinders his ability to repeat his three-quarters arm slot. While there's a big gap between his floor and his ceiling, he does have the upside of a high-leverage reliever.

[Polk377]

Trading Moncada for Sale was a bad long term move for Boston but puts them as favorites in the AL this year. Moncada was a great pick up for Chicago to rebuild with. Kid has a lot of potential.

I like all four of the guys they gave up for him. Pretty good haul for the ChiSox.

Yoan Moncada | Rank: 1 (Preseason: 1)
Team: Boston Red Sox ETA: 2016 Position: 2B/3B Age: 21 DOB: 05/27/1995 Bats: S Throws: R Height: 6' 2" Weight: 205 lb.
Signed: March 12, 2015 - BOS
Other Lists: Top 100 Prospects (#1), Top 10 2B Prospects (#1)
Watch
Scouting grades: Hit: 60 | Power: 55 | Run: 65 | Arm: 60 | Field: 50 | Overall: 65
The most-hyped teenaged prospect to come out of Cuba since Jorge Soler, Moncada signed last March for $31.5 million, nearly doubling the previous record bonus for an amateur player (Aroldis Chapman's $16.25 million in 2010). The Red Sox also had to pay a matching penalty for blowing past their international bonus pool, but so far the total $63 million expenditure looks well worth it. He has shown the dynamic tools package Boston paid for while reaching the big leagues at the end of his second pro season.
Few middle infielders can match Moncada's huge offensive ceiling, which earns him comparisons to Robinson Cano with more speed. He's a switch-hitter with outstanding bat speed who makes consistent hard contact from both sides of the plate. Moncada has added some loft to his swing in 2016 and has the potential for 20-25 home runs per season.
Moncada's best pure tool is his well-above-average speed, which he has put to good use with back-to-back 45-steal seasons and an 86 percent success rate in the Minors. His quickness doesn't translate consistently as well in the field, though he has the range and arm strength to play almost anywhere on the diamond he might be needed. He spent most of his first two pro seasons at second base, though with the Red Sox having Dustin Pedroia signed through 2021, they moved Moncada to third base in mid-August.


Michael Kopech | Rank: 5 (Preseason: 5)
Team: Salem Red Sox (A Adv) ETA: 2018 Position: RHP Age: 20 DOB: 04/30/1996 Bats: R Throws: R Height: 6' 3" Weight: 205 lb.
Drafted: 2014, 1st (33) - BOS
Other Lists: Top 100 Prospects (#67)
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Scouting grades: Fastball: 75 | Slider: 55 | Changeup: 50 | Control: 45 | Overall: 55
The Red Sox have a terrible track record of drafting high school right-handers in the first round -- only two of their first seven reached the big leagues, "highlighted" by No. 3 overall choice Mike Garman -- and had avoided doing so for 18 years before popping Kopech at No. 33 overall in 2014. Signed for $1.5 million, he overpowered low Class A hitters in 2015 before drawing a 50-game suspension in mid-July after testing positive for a banned stimulant. This year, he has made headlines both bad (breaking his pitching hand in a fight with a teammate during Spring Training, sidelining himself for three months) and good (hitting 105 mph with his fastball three starts after he returned).
Few Minor League starters have a better fastball than Kopech, who sits at 95-97 mph and reaches triple digits with nasty late life. His breaking ball also can look make hitters look bad, as he has refined what once was a hybrid pitch into a slider that reaches the low 90s. The silver lining with his suspension is that it gave him some time to work on his changeup outside of game action, and it shows signs of becoming a weapon with late drop at the plate.
The Red Sox also used Kopech's mandated time off to work on toning down his delivery, which had featured a lot of twists and turns and some deep tilt in the back. He was athletic enough to pull that off but should have an easier time repeating his simplified mechanics. He's a potential frontline starter who'll move as quickly as he develops control and command.

Luis Alexander Basabe | Rank: 8 (Preseason: 8)
Team: Salem Red Sox (A Adv) ETA: 2018 Position: OF Age: 20 DOB: 08/26/1996 Bats: S Throws: R Height: 6' 0" Weight: 160 lb.
Signed: Aug. 26, 2012
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Scouting grades: Hit: 45 | Power: 55 | Run: 60 | Arm: 60 | Field: 55 | Overall: 50
Signing the Bogaerts twins worked out well for the Red Sox, and they found another possible star when they landed the identical Basabe twins with matching $450,000 bonuses out of Venezuela in 2012. Outfielder Luis Alexander since has outpaced middle infielder Luis Alejandro (sent to the Diamondbacks in a July trade for Brad Ziegler) as a prospect, ranking third in the short-season New York-Penn League with seven homers last summer despite being its third-youngest regular at age 18. He became the first player in Lowell's 20-year history to homer from both sides of the plate in one game, doing so in June and again in July.
Though he still has a long ways to go at the plate, Basabe is a switch-hitting center fielder with five-tool potential. He's not physically imposing but already generates impressive power with bat speed and strong forearms and wrists, and he should have more once he adds some muscle. He shows some signs of plate discipline, but needs to improve his pitch recognition so he can make consistent contact and maximize his considerable offensive potential.
Basabe has plus speed and presently shows better instincts on the bases, where he's a threat to steal, than he does in the outfield, where his reads and routes can be rough. First-round pick Andrew Benintendi pushed him to right field when both were in Lowell, though Basabe should be able to play center field as he adds polish. His strong arm and power will profile well in right if he has to move there.




Victor Diaz | Rank: 28 (Preseason: NR)
Team: Greenville Drive (A) ETA: 2020 Position: RHP Age: 22 DOB: 05/24/1994 Bats: R Throws: R Height: 6' 3" Weight: 190 lb.
Signed: Dec. 12, 2014 - BOS
Scouting grades: Fastball: 70 | Slider: 50 | Splitter: 50 | Control: 40 | Overall: 45
Signed for a mere $10,000 out of the Dominican Republic in 2014, Diaz created a stir when his fastball reached 102 mph during his pro debut in the Rookie-level Dominican Summer League the following year. He struggled when he jumped to the United States and low Class A in 2016, though he finished by not allowing a run in his final 16 appearances while striking out 31 in 23 2/3 innings.
Diaz's fastball usually sits at 95-98 mph and continues to peak in the triple digits. His heater has some late life to go with its impressive velocity, and it elicits swings and misses in the strike zone -- when he finds the strike zone. He also has a pair of intriguing, though inconsistent, power secondary pitches in a short slider and a splitter that both range from 88-93 mph.
Diaz is still learning to harness his stuff. He has a lot of effort in his delivery, which hinders his ability to repeat his three-quarters arm slot. While there's a big gap between his floor and his ceiling, he does have the upside of a high-leverage reliever.

Is Sale really worth this much? I know he has been a top 5 pitcher over the last few years and is still only 27 but pitching always seems like such a crapshoot to me. They just gave up the #1 prospect in baseball plus more for a guy that plays 35-40 games a year. Did the Red Sox really need another pitcher after they got Price, Porcello, Pomeranz and still have Buckholtz and Wright?

[Knickfan1982]

Is Sale really worth this much? I know he has been a top 5 pitcher over the last few years and is still only 27 but pitching always seems like such a crapshoot to me. They just gave up the #1 prospect in baseball plus more for a guy that plays 35-40 games a year. Did the Red Sox really need another pitcher after they got Price, Porcello, Pomeranz and still have Buckholtz and Wright?

We shall see. But personally I am happy they paid it and not us.

They gave up the top prospect in all of baseball (Moncada) a high ceiling pitcher who ranked in the top 70 (Kopech), plus the Red Sox #8 and #28 in prospects ( Basabe and Diaz respectively). But even that #28 guy has a ton of potential.

To come up with fair comparable value I see the Yankees needing to give up : Clint Frasier, Jorge Mateo or Gleiber Torres, Justis Sheffield, Luis Severino or Domigo Acevedo and maybe someone like Leonardo Molina. That's steep.

[Knickfan1982]

[quote="Polk377"][/quote]

I would prefer to pay that kind of price for a position player who has the ability to help us every single game.

[Polk377]

I would prefer to pay that kind of price for a position player who has the ability to help us every single game.

Agreed. I would give up the farm for Mike Trout.

[Dr. Detfink]

Hey Ca$h, not sure your tongue is brown enough? Geezus.

[isiah_thomas]

Cashman called the Sawx "The Golden State Warriors of Baseball" http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/yankees-gm-cashman-compares-the-new-look-red-sox-to-the-golden-state-warriors/

[isiah_thomas]

Price stinks in the playoffs. He can now become there 3rd option behind Sale and Porcello who just won the CY Young. Sale now becomes the Ace to get take pressure off him. Put him with that offense and they will be the favorites in the AL. Indians will be there biggest challenge. Still have good starting pitching an a elite bullpen. Indians just need another bat. Encarnacion makes ton of sense for them

[Knickfan1982]

Price stinks in the playoffs. Sale now becomes the Ace to get take pressure off him. Put him with that offense and they will be the favorites in the AL. Indians will be there biggest challenge. Still have good starting pitching an a elite bullpen. Indians just need another bat. Encarnacion makes ton of sense for them

I can't see how they don't go all in on Encarnacion now. Show Napoli the door and show Encarnacion the money.

[reub]

I would prefer to pay that kind of price for a position player who has the ability to help us every single game.

You say that but guys like Bumgarner win championships. They win them almost single handedly. Can Sale be that good?

[isiah_thomas]

FOX Sports' Ken Rosenthal reports that the Cubs are close to acquiring Wade Davis from the Cubs for outfielder Jorge Soler.

Chapman is gone. Soler is blah great trade for the Cubs

[MaseInYourFace]

In a lot of other forums they still kill yankees to this day for not signing Moncada.

[F N 11]

FOX Sports' Ken Rosenthal reports that the Cubs are close to acquiring Wade Davis from the Cubs for outfielder Jorge Soler.

Chapman is gone. Soler is blah great trade for the Cubs

So Chappie gone but to who