What country would you move to

[NYKNICKPLAYA]

Just thought it would be interesting talk considering how messed up our country is...but then again, just about everyone is corrupt. So I guess it's picking your poison, or is there a good option?

[DaGawd]

Barbados.. my homeland

[Bill Pidto]

I've been to a lot of places. Spent some time in Switzerland. The Swiss people come to mind because they are the wealthiest, greenest, most organized, most educated and least violent of all the places I've been to. And I'm telling you... when you finally touch down again at JFK and you know you're home... you realize how much better it is here. I can't describe it, but I felt it every time.

There is no place like home. And there's still no place as free and full of opportunity as America is. All that being said... I do believe it's going down. I'm thinking 20, 30 years from now... America and the entire world will pretty much be a dystopia.

[Greenie]

I'm going to Venus.

[aq_ua]

As OP alluded to, there really is no perfect place on earth, depends on what sort of problems you're willing to tolerate.

Political disarray, violence, income/wealth gaps, these are generally universal themes these days.

Singapore was the "safest" place I have ever lived, no fear of gun violence, small children running around by themselves at night. Conversely, everything was artificial and heavily censored.

Australia/NZ is similar but really removed from the rest of the world physically and has its share of racism and political issues.

All in all, I do keep coming back to the US as not the ideal society on earth, but where life feels like real life, if that makes any sense.

[AmazingJason]

I've been to a lot of places. Spent some time in Switzerland. The Swiss people come to mind because they are the wealthiest, greenest, most organized, most educated and least violent of all the places I've been to. And I'm telling you... when you finally touch down again at JFK and you know you're home... you realize how much better it is here. I can't describe it, but I felt it every time.

There is no place like home. And there's still no place as free and full of opportunity as America is. All that being said... I do believe it's going down. I'm thinking 20, 30 years from now... America and the entire world will pretty much be a dystopia.

I'm fine with that. After 20 to 30 years, I will have finished my bucket list and done and achieved all I've wanted in this lifetime. Hopefully, by then, there will be voluntary euthanasia so I can peacefully move on after fulfilling my goals.

[NoLayupRule]

sadly for work London is the place for me
but Im not feeling it

perhaps Costa Rica

On December 1, 1948, President José Figueres Ferrer of Costa Rica abolished the military of Costa Rica after victory in the civil war in that year. In a ceremony in the Cuartel Bellavista, Figueres broke a wall with a mallet symbolizing an end to Costa Rica's military spirit.

but Italy, speaking of corrupt, is my favorite country outside the US and I have a lot of friends there

[Kurumi]

I've been to a lot of places. Spent some time in Switzerland. The Swiss people come to mind because they are the wealthiest, greenest, most organized, most educated and least violent of all the places I've been to.

Same, I lived/worked in Switzerland for 2 years and it's easily the country with the highest quality of life that I've experienced first hand. Even a Swiss McDonald's worker can make a decent living (they have to since everything is expensive).

Now I'm in Japan, also one of the safest countries to live in. While the quality of life is not as good as Switzerland (people tend to work late here, this is more of a culture thing as to not be embarrassed about leaving at a reasonable time), it is still very nice.

I imagine any of the Nordic countries would be great too.

Still NY is my home, and there will be no place like it.

[Phish Tank]

Here. Although a trump presidency is awful to think about, he won't be able to pass a fraction of what he wants since the senate or house will turn over the other side.


Sent from the phish tank

[Iron Mantis]

In the hands of man, there is no good government anywhere in the world.

America will do for now. At least we have freedom of religion...for now.

[Capn'O]

Canada, Costa Rica, and the Netherlands spring to mind. Maybe Thailand.

Chances are, I'm in it for the long haul here though.

[NY2TheBay]

An acquaintance just recently got up and moved to Germany. He said he just needed to leave. Took his newborn and wife.

I've thought about getting a second place in thailand (chiang mai). Wherever it would be I would need to visit and spend some time there, I am not a super spontaneous person.

[riter]

"Some day I would like to leave the south and move back to America."
-riter

[gavran]

I'm going to Venus.

You could chose a less expensive death though.

[Da_Mane_Man]

man, this thread gave me goosebumps. NJ feels like home, and i agree with that feeling a lot of you are talking about when you touch down in this area.

that being said, i would live in a lot of places. there are so many countries and states that i would enjoy seeing and exploring

[movingon]

I typically like any first world country where you can drink in the street without being hassled by the cops. Tells you where my mind is at.

[MaseInYourFace]

If global economy crashes it won't matter. The only alternative at that point will be to live off grid somewhere.

But if it's just a USA problem I would probably spend my time between Canada, Colombia, and Dominican Republic. Canada for work and relatively easy transition. Colombia for business opportunities and because the wife is from there. My folks will retire in DR so I'm gonna be spending more time there regardless.

I hope USA rights itself. We are in a bad spot right now and frankly I'm not too hopeful about Clinton either, as bad as Trump is. So having a backup plan is a completely rational thing to have. I never thought I would be telling you all that but sh** is serious.

[TheDavinciCHODE]

I moved from the tri-state area to the Czech Republic a few years ago and love the quality of life and culture here.

Next stop for me is Rome and then on to Thailand in the winter.

I can definitely say that what makes you happy is what you should be looking for. In general, the USA is a good place to live if you want to make money, start a business, invest, or things of that like.

Europe has a higher quality of life for the average person in my experience. There isn't the kind of abject poverty in Central, Western, Southern, or Nothern Europe that you see in America. Most people here make a living wage, and the social system ensure a good level of health care and education for nearly everyone. It isn't perfect here by any means though. **** is expensive compared to salaries, bureacracy sucks, there's a ceiling on earnings that's hard to break through, taxes are high, etc.

But people here are more liberal, easy-going, cultured, etc. The interesting thing is that when you see America from the outside in you realize that a lot of things we think are unique about our nation are not actually unique at all.

There are more "freedoms" in Europe than there are in America. There's little censorship, there aren't deeply entrenched values that people are afraid of speaking out against, institutionalized racism is rare(though it certainly exists), and people take a live and let live mentality.

America certainly has freedoms too, but our TV and radio are censored, we can't drink legally until 21, drug laws are heavily enforced, our general spirit or zeitgeist if you will is very strong, meaning that speaking out against things considered "american" elicits a strong response from the general populace.

We have to say the pledge of allegiance every day before school like North Korea, and our freedom of the press is ranked 41st in the world....now of course a lot of that is due to heavy governmental supression of military information, but our general press freedom is also censored far more than nations in Europe.

Think of the taboos surrounding race, sex, alcohol, profanity, and nudity in our nation, or how the profit drive creates a stigma for adults that don't have certain things like a dedicated career, a family, or a mortgage. I couldn't imagine what being a 40 + year old man that works as a freelancer and just chills in an apartment drinking wine with friends would be like back in New York or Connecticut. People would think you were a loser. I'm only 28, but seeing the lives my friends have been relegated to already is a scary thought, and most have told me they did because they had to.

There's this idea in America that you have your fun when you are in college and then you need to dedicate your life to a career, a mortgage, and a family. It makes people F'ing miserable.

Here, in general, things are more relaxed. Though many countries like Germany also expect you to dedicate long hours to work, it's still not the same level that I experienced back home.

Most things that are taboo in America are not taboo here. If you go home with a girl at the bar in America, people think she's a slut. In most areas of Europe that's called Saturday night.

I love the USA, and I still visit twice a year. But Europe definitely has a higher quality of life in general. Plus the beer in Czech Republic is killer.

[Kampuchea]

I live in Cambodia now, love living here. Been here for 4-5 years now.

I was on the no-plan, plan for some time. I was in Cambodia and supposed to head to Jinan China for work but never went to the flight and never left Cambodia.

I will move back to USA eventually due to my family in USA and also the education of my son, but I would not return if not for those 2 big factors.

[Kampuchea]

Also this http://www.officeholidays.com/countries/cambodia/