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Draft Thread - 4th Ed. (Currently 6th, 2 back of 5th, 4.5back of 3rd)

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Re: Draft Thread - 4th Ed. (Currently 6th, 2 back of 5th, 4.5back of 3rd) 

Post#1941 » by HEZI » Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:54 am

K-DOT wrote:
SMAC-K wrote:
K-DOT wrote:Because George and Butler are proven players, would fit in with the rest of the team's timeline well, and max free agents aren't switching teams anyways


Could have sworn Durant switched teams last summer

Could have sworn the Celtics didn't set the record for wins this year


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Re: Draft Thread - 4th Ed. (Currently 6th, 2 back of 5th, 4.5back of 3rd) 

Post#1943 » by Amsterdam » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:00 am

Coeur wrote:
SelbyCobra wrote:Jackson is 100% the pick for Boston, no?

Why? Don't their fans think it will be fultz? Do you see Jackson as the #1 or just best fit for Boston? Jaylen Brown and Jackson would be a tough 2/3 combo to cover. Both being able to play both spots themselves.


If the Celtics draft Jackson they would have to bring Brown off the bench. Thats not too bad as their bench will get stronger.
If they draft a point, the backcourt is super crowded.

So it's a possibility they go Josh.
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Re: Draft Thread - 4th Ed. (Currently 6th, 2 back of 5th, 4.5back of 3rd) 

Post#1944 » by K-DOT » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:03 am

SMAC-K wrote:
K-DOT wrote:
SMAC-K wrote:
Could have sworn Durant switched teams last summer

Could have sworn the Celtics didn't set the record for wins this year


2nd best team in the East with the chance at landing the No.1 overall pick in a stacked draft
Young core that gets along and has fun playing together
Play unselfish style of basketball
Ton of Money

The Celtics will be a hot spot destination for free agents whether we like it or not

Except for max free agents, did you not see the CBA changes? Gordon Hayward isn't gonna give up over 30 million dollars to go to Boston
Also, "young core?"
Thomas, Bradley, Crowder, and Horford are all 27 or older (Horford is 31! and they're paying him almost 30 mil a year for the next 3 years)
The only "young" players they have are Smart (role player) and Brown, who has a long way to go
And after next year, both Thomas and Bradley's contracts are up, and both of them are gonna command 25 mil +, so if they don't sign anyone this offseason, they're screwed for cap space
Not to say that the Celtics aren't in a good spot or anything, but Ainge is far from a genius, and they have a lot of work to do to become a contender
That white frost on that pound cake
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Re: Draft Thread - 4th Ed. (Currently 6th, 2 back of 5th, 4.5back of 3rd) 

Post#1945 » by Jay10 » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:07 am

Knickerbock wrote:Lets say we picked 5th.. Who would you guys select...

Jayson Tatum or Dennis Smith Jr....?


The guy that doesn't have knee problems.
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Post#1946 » by Br00kLyn » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:07 am

Thornwell in the 2nd round(or trade into the late 1st round) anyone?
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Post#1947 » by Mecca » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:13 am

Jay10 wrote:
Knickerbock wrote:Lets say we picked 5th.. Who would you guys select...

Jayson Tatum or Dennis Smith Jr....?


The guy that doesn't have knee problems.


One torn ACL isn't 'knee problems'
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Re: Draft Thread - 4th Ed. (Currently 6th, 2 back of 5th, 4.5back of 3rd) 

Post#1948 » by whocares1 » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:15 am

K-DOT wrote:
SMAC-K wrote:
K-DOT wrote:Could have sworn the Celtics didn't set the record for wins this year


2nd best team in the East with the chance at landing the No.1 overall pick in a stacked draft
Young core that gets along and has fun playing together
Play unselfish style of basketball
Ton of Money

The Celtics will be a hot spot destination for free agents whether we like it or not

Except for max free agents, did you not see the CBA changes? Gordon Hayward isn't gonna give up over 30 million dollars to go to Boston
Also, "young core?"
Thomas, Bradley, Crowder, and Horford are all 27 or older (Horford is 31! and they're paying him almost 30 mil a year for the next 3 years)
The only "young" players they have are Smart (role player) and Brown, who has a long way to go
And after next year, both Thomas and Bradley's contracts are up, and both of them are gonna command 25 mil +, so if they don't sign anyone this offseason, they're screwed for cap space
Not to say that the Celtics aren't in a good spot or anything, but Ainge is far from a genius, and they have a lot of work to do to become a contender


Let's be fair..they're not "contenders" because Lebron James plays in the same conference as them. They're not championship contenders because of that bomb squad in the bay. Under normal circumstances they are a deep really good team that can possibly win it all.
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Re: Draft Thread - 4th Ed. (Currently 6th, 2 back of 5th, 4.5back of 3rd) 

Post#1949 » by K-DOT » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:17 am

whocares1 wrote:
K-DOT wrote:
SMAC-K wrote:
2nd best team in the East with the chance at landing the No.1 overall pick in a stacked draft
Young core that gets along and has fun playing together
Play unselfish style of basketball
Ton of Money

The Celtics will be a hot spot destination for free agents whether we like it or not

Except for max free agents, did you not see the CBA changes? Gordon Hayward isn't gonna give up over 30 million dollars to go to Boston
Also, "young core?"
Thomas, Bradley, Crowder, and Horford are all 27 or older (Horford is 31! and they're paying him almost 30 mil a year for the next 3 years)
The only "young" players they have are Smart (role player) and Brown, who has a long way to go
And after next year, both Thomas and Bradley's contracts are up, and both of them are gonna command 25 mil +, so if they don't sign anyone this offseason, they're screwed for cap space
Not to say that the Celtics aren't in a good spot or anything, but Ainge is far from a genius, and they have a lot of work to do to become a contender


Let's be fair..they're not "contenders" because Lebron James plays in the same conference as them. They're not championship contenders because of that bomb squad in the bay. Under normal circumstances they are a deep really good team that can possibly win it all.

Right, but IMO George or Butler on that squad puts them on the same tier as LeBron, and once you get to the finals, anything can happen
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Re: Draft Thread - 4th Ed. (Currently 6th, 2 back of 5th, 4.5back of 3rd) 

Post#1950 » by Jay10 » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:18 am

Mecca wrote:
Jay10 wrote:
Knickerbock wrote:Lets say we picked 5th.. Who would you guys select...

Jayson Tatum or Dennis Smith Jr....?


The guy that doesn't have knee problems.


One torn ACL isn't 'knee problems'


Haven't the knicks dealt with enough players over the years with knees issues?
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Post#1951 » by spree8 » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:22 am

SMAC-K wrote:
spree8 wrote:
SMAC-K wrote:
Yup

That's why Ainge is a genius. Why give up the pick for a guy like Butler or Paul George when you can draft a stud like Jackson and still have enough cap space in the summer to go after a mega max free agent



I'd call that more common sense than genius no?


It wasn't common sense to all the people that were putting pressure on Ainge to deal the pick for one of those star players that was on the market. They made it seem as if he had to do it in order to take his team to the next level. Ainge is a genius because he's not chasing the Cavs or Warriors even though a lot of people felt like he should because they don't think the Celtics are winning in the playoffs. Although that may be true and Celtics don't look like a team that is going to make a lot of noise in the post season, Ainge has remained calm and hasn't made any panic moves to sacrifice the future of his team even though he easily could have.



There were obviously people that wanted him to trade for PG or Butler but it would be dumb to trade that pick.

When they were talking about Melo maybe going to Boston, I wanted him to make a panic move and give us that pick too, but deep down I knew there was zero chance...because he'd be stupid to.
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Post#1952 » by el13adnino » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:25 am

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Post#1953 » by HEZI » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:25 am

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Post#1954 » by HEZI » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:28 am

spree8 wrote:
SMAC-K wrote:
spree8 wrote:

I'd call that more common sense than genius no?


It wasn't common sense to all the people that were putting pressure on Ainge to deal the pick for one of those star players that was on the market. They made it seem as if he had to do it in order to take his team to the next level. Ainge is a genius because he's not chasing the Cavs or Warriors even though a lot of people felt like he should because they don't think the Celtics are winning in the playoffs. Although that may be true and Celtics don't look like a team that is going to make a lot of noise in the post season, Ainge has remained calm and hasn't made any panic moves to sacrifice the future of his team even though he easily could have.



There were obviously people that wanted him to trade for PG or Butler but it would be dumb to trade that pick.

When they were talking about Melo maybe going to Boston, I wanted him to make a panic move and give us that pick too, but deep down I knew there was zero chance...because he'd be stupid to.


:lol: Me too

I wanted him to make a panic move for Melo but he's just not that stupid, sadly
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Post#1955 » by HerSports85 » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:36 am

Good day for the tank - Mavs, Pels, and sixers win ... Great would have been Sac winning !


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Re: Draft Thread - 4th Ed. (Currently 6th, 2 back of 5th, 4.5back of 3rd) 

Post#1956 » by Marcus » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:43 am

Amsterdam wrote:
Coeur wrote:
SelbyCobra wrote:Jackson is 100% the pick for Boston, no?

Why? Don't their fans think it will be fultz? Do you see Jackson as the #1 or just best fit for Boston? Jaylen Brown and Jackson would be a tough 2/3 combo to cover. Both being able to play both spots themselves.


If the Celtics draft Jackson they would have to bring Brown off the bench. Thats not too bad as their bench will get stronger.
If they draft a point, the backcourt is super crowded.

So it's a possibility they go Josh.


Adding Jackson gives ridiculous versatility lineup wise. Adds another creator without sacrificing defense.
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Post#1957 » by HEZI » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:46 am

K-DOT wrote:
SMAC-K wrote:
K-DOT wrote:Could have sworn the Celtics didn't set the record for wins this year


2nd best team in the East with the chance at landing the No.1 overall pick in a stacked draft
Young core that gets along and has fun playing together
Play unselfish style of basketball
Ton of Money

The Celtics will be a hot spot destination for free agents whether we like it or not

Except for max free agents, did you not see the CBA changes? Gordon Hayward isn't gonna give up over 30 million dollars to go to Boston
Also, "young core?"
Thomas, Bradley, Crowder, and Horford are all 27 or older (Horford is 31! and they're paying him almost 30 mil a year for the next 3 years)
The only "young" players they have are Smart (role player) and Brown, who has a long way to go
And after next year, both Thomas and Bradley's contracts are up, and both of them are gonna command 25 mil +, so if they don't sign anyone this offseason, they're screwed for cap space
Not to say that the Celtics aren't in a good spot or anything, but Ainge is far from a genius, and they have a lot of work to do to become a contender


25-30 are the average prime years for players, so yes they are still young considering everybody except Horford is currently in their prime years.

As far as players leaving money, the Celtics have a ton of cap space, what part of that are you not understanding? They will have about 35+ million in cap space and can bid high and overpay annual salary.

And guess what? Even if they strike out on max free agents they can still sign complementary pieces to keep building their core and they still have the Brooklyn Nets 2018 draft pick to add to that next year. Lebron is getting older each year and the Cavs window is slowly closing, just in time for the Celtics young core to take over the Eastern Conference. Ainge is a genius!

Not only are they keeping the fans happy by winning and making the playoffs and making profit but they are collecting top 5 pick after top 5 pick after top 5 pick in the process. What teams do you know of that are able to say they are the 2nd best team in their conference, yet still collect a top 5 pick for 3 years straight? How is that not genius?
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Post#1958 » by malik959 » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:52 am

spree8 wrote:Those who have little faith in us landing a top 3 pick need to start being more optimistic ...things are lookin better by the day :nod:

Your asking a Knicks fan to be optimistic? :noway:
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Post#1959 » by Amsterdam » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:55 am

SMAC-K wrote:
K-DOT wrote:
SMAC-K wrote:
2nd best team in the East with the chance at landing the No.1 overall pick in a stacked draft
Young core that gets along and has fun playing together
Play unselfish style of basketball
Ton of Money

The Celtics will be a hot spot destination for free agents whether we like it or not

Except for max free agents, did you not see the CBA changes? Gordon Hayward isn't gonna give up over 30 million dollars to go to Boston
Also, "young core?"
Thomas, Bradley, Crowder, and Horford are all 27 or older (Horford is 31! and they're paying him almost 30 mil a year for the next 3 years)
The only "young" players they have are Smart (role player) and Brown, who has a long way to go
And after next year, both Thomas and Bradley's contracts are up, and both of them are gonna command 25 mil +, so if they don't sign anyone this offseason, they're screwed for cap space
Not to say that the Celtics aren't in a good spot or anything, but Ainge is far from a genius, and they have a lot of work to do to become a contender


25-30 are the average prime years for players, so yes they are still young considering everybody except Horford is currently in their prime years.

As far as players leaving money, the Celtics have a ton of cap space, what part of that are you not understanding? They will have about 35+ million in cap space and can bid high and overpay annual salary.

And guess what? Even if they strike out on max free agents they can still sign complementary pieces to keep building their core and they still have the Brooklyn Nets 2018 draft pick to add to that next year. Lebron is getting older each year and the Cavs window is slowly closing, just in time for the Celtics young core to take over the Eastern Conference. Ainge is a genius!

Not only are they keeping the fans happy by winning and making the playoffs and making profit but they are collecting top 5 pick after top 5 pick after top 5 pick in the process. What teams do you know of that are able to say they are the 2nd best team in their conference, yet still collect a top 5 pick for 3 years straight? How is that not genius?


Ainge fleecing the Nets doesn't make him a genious. As it was also a poor management decision by the Nets.

A questionable drafting of Brown and overpaying for Horford is still up for debate
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Re: Draft Thread - 4th Ed. (Currently 6th, 2 back of 5th, 4.5back of 3rd) 

Post#1960 » by seren » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:56 am

Looks like we have a real shot at Philly's spot. They don't care that much as they have a pick swap with Sacramento and Sac is tanking big time.

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