OT: Shaq could be done.

Hardaway 10 · Post #1 » by **Hardaway 10** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 3:50 am

From the Heat beat guy, Ira Winderman's blog today after the game....

http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_basketball_heat/2008/01/grizzlies-101-h.html

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Not only is Shaquille O'Neal's hip injury legit, it might be more serious than initially thought.
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Or it just might be part of getting old.

Shaq retiring would speed up the Heat rebuilding quite a bit. :nonono:

Big C · Post #2 » by **Big C** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 3:57 am

If the Heat get the number draft pick they might be in a better shape than people think. Derrick Rose and Wade in the backcourt would be crazy.

randomhero423 · Post #3 » by **randomhero423** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 3:59 am

we should trade for shaq...

Hardaway 10 · Post #4 » by **Hardaway 10** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 4:03 am

If Shaq is forced to retire, that'd improve the Heat's cap situation more than any trade could. Riley would be all over tanking this year if he got another franchise player in the draft and enough cap space to sign an all-star big( Elton Brand, anyone?) this off-season.

Immortal King · Post #5 » by **Immortal King** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 4:03 am

Big C wrote:If the Heat get the number draft pick they might be in a better shape than people think. Derrick Rose and Wade in the backcourt would be crazy.

Dwade and DeAndre Jordan? or Mike Beasley?

randomhero423 · Post #6 » by **randomhero423** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 4:04 am

wade, brand and greene is very scary...

siro · Post #7 » by **siro** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 4:04 am

Hardaway 10 wrote:If Shaq is forced to retire, that'd improve the Heat's cap situation more than any trade could. Riley would be all over tanking this year if he got another franchise player in the draft and enough cap space to sign an all-star big( Elton Brand, anyone?) this off-season.

If he retires, doesn't the contract still count against the cap? I thought when Allan Houston retired his $$ still counted till his contract was over.

Hardaway 10 · Post #8 » by **Hardaway 10** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 4:20 am

siro wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

If he retires, doesn't the contract still count against the cap? I thought when Allan Houston retired his $$ still counted till his contract was over.

The CBA is a little confusing but the Heat could get a huge break if Shaq is medically unfit and is forced to retire due to injury. The contract might count but the Heat could be granted an injury exception for 50% of Shaq's money this offseason, which is ~$10 million, to sign a free agent.

If he retires this year in-season, his money counts this year, but as of next year (1 calender year from whenever he retires) it would be removed for the last 2 years.

method · Post #9 » by **method** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 4:28 am

Hardaway 10 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

The CBA is a little confusing but the Heat could get a huge break if Shaq is medically unfit and is forced to retire due to injury. The contract might count but the Heat could be granted an injury exception for 50% of Shaq's money this offseason, which is ~$10 million, to sign a free agent.

If he retires this year in-season, his money counts this year, but as of next year (1 calender year from whenever he retires) it would be removed for the last 2 years.

How come that didnt happen with Houston?

Post #10 » by **moocow007** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 4:29 am

The question is, is it really an injury or general affects of a body that's breaking down.

Immortal King · Post #11 » by **Immortal King** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 4:34 am

moocow007 wrote:The question is, is it really an injury or general affects of a body that's breaking down.

Probably general affects of the body breaking down. A 7 footer who is 300 pounds playing basketball? Bound to cause problems to him as he gets older.

Post #12 » by **nyknicks2k2** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 4:36 am

Hardaway 10 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

The CBA is a little confusing but the Heat could get a huge break if Shaq is medically unfit and is forced to retire due to injury. The contract might count but the Heat could be granted an injury exception for 50% of Shaq's money this offseason, which is ~$10 million, to sign a free agent.

This exception can only be used to acquire one player. The maximum salary for the replacement player is 50% of the injured player's salary, or the average salary, whichever is less

They won't get 10 Mil. Around 5.

Hardaway 10 · Post #13 » by **Hardaway 10** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 4:42 am

nyknicks2k2 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

They won't get 10 Mil. Around 5.

Doesn't Shaq get $20 mil per on his extension for another 2 years after this one?

Or is it average salary of the team, with the cap being around $55 mil?

Post #14 » by **nyknicks2k2** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 4:46 am

Average salary of the league.

10 Mil > 5.3 Mil (which I do believe is the average league salary)

So the Heat would get 5.3.

Post #15 » by **moocow007** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 4:52 am

Now's the time to move Jerome!!! :wink:

Post #16 » by **mjhp911** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 4:55 am

OT: Shaq could be done.

Gee, ya' think?!

Hey Tommy, you still want to acquire Shaq?