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Here are the top 20 centers in the NBA, based on players' projected impact on the 2008-09 season:
1. Dwight Howard, Orlando: Howard still has plenty of room and time to grow as an NBA star. The Superman cape he unveiled last All-Star Weekend might not be too much of a stretch. He should start leaping tall buildings soon, eager to continue expanding his game. The Magic have no excuse if they can't build a serious contender around this inside force.
2. Yao Ming, Houston: It's time for Yao to start acting and playing like a former No. 1 pick and lead the Rockets deep into the playoffs. With both Tracy McGrady and Ron Artest alongside him, there should be no reason why Yao can't get the Rockets past any of the Western contenders.
3. Andrew Bynum, Los Angeles Lakers: After missing all the playoff fun last season, Bynum could either disrupt what the Lakers had or put them over the top. Now going into his fourth season (directly from high school), he has shown some enormous talent. His trick will be making it fit on a team that reached the NBA Finals without him.
4. Shaquille O'Neal, Phoenix: Sure, he has slowed considerably. He is not as hungry anymore, but he still is a dominating presence around the basket. He is counting down the days to retirement, but if Shaq takes his conditioning seriously, the Suns will give him a chance to add one more championship ring before he leaves the game. And that could motivate him this season.
5. Marcus Camby, Los Angeles Clippers: It's hard to ask for anything more than 13.1 rebounds and 3.6 blocks a game from a center, which still makes Camby valuable, even if Denver didn't want him anymore. From a fantasy perspective, his value will go down when he has to share the lane with Chris Kaman. Together, they should give the Clips a defensive presence.
6. Rasheed Wallace, Detroit: Yes, he's a strange dude, but it's hard to fault his skill set. He can guard the big guys inside, then cause serious matchup problems at the other end with his long-range shooting. He gave Howard and the Magic fits in the playoffs last spring, but he also gives his teammates fits.
7. Jermaine O'Neal, Toronto: Life soured in Indiana, but the move to Toronto should revitalize his career. His presence will allow Chris Bosh to move to power forward, giving the Raptors a nice frontcourt. Remember, O'Neal once averaged 20/10 in back-to-back seasons. And he is only 29 years old, hoping to regain the status he once had.
8. Greg Oden, Portland: He missed all of last season after being the No. 1 pick in the draft, but he will join the league now with a vengeance, making sure his presence is felt. The year off will relieve the pressure of being a No. 1 pick, making his debut season even more impressive.
2008-09 Fantasy Projections
9. Emeka Okafor, Charlotte: As long as he understands his role and limitations, he is more than adequate as a center. After a great college career, he came into the league with over-inflated expectations heaped upon him. He is a defender/rebounder who would do well on a better team, but he gets exposed and criticized because he can't carry a bad team like the Bobcats.
10. Tyson Chandler, New Orleans: Although their point guard gets all the credit, the Hornets would not be a contender without Chandler, who has begun to shine after a slow start in Chicago. He needs to block more shots, but averaging a double-double (11.8 ppg and 11.7 rpg) makes him comfortable in his role. Should score a little more this season.
11. Chris Kaman, Los Angeles Clippers: His role looks a little uncertain with Marcus Camby on the roster, but that doesn't take away from a career season. Kaman averaged 15.7 points, 12.7 rebounds and 2.7 blocks with Elton Brand on the sideline. If Baron Davis will pass him the ball, Kaman will score, but it's unlikely he will get the opportunities he had last season.
12. Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Cleveland: His toughest assignment is making sure he stays out of the way of LeBron James. Ilgauskas' skills have eroded, but he still can hit the open jumper, make a good pass and guard the slower centers in the league. He needs lots of help trying to guard the younger centers.
13. Samuel Dalembert, Philadelphia: He doesn't know it yet, but he will benefit greatly from the addition of Elton Brand, who will garner all the attention around the basket. Dalembert won't have to worry about scoring, which he doesn't do well. Instead, he can focus on what he does do well, and that's rebound and block shots. If he improves his post defense, he can really help turn the 76ers into contenders in the East.
14. Andrew Bogut, Milwaukee: Another former No. 1 pick who has been viewed as a disappointment because expectations were too high. Won't ever be a star, but he can be more than adequate. Watch for new coach Scott Skiles to ramp him up a notch. If he can raise his intensity level, Bogut can help bring the Bucks back to respectability.
15. Al Horford, Atlanta: A little out of position, but he handles it well, using his youth and athleticism to provide what the Hawks need at this spot. Had a good rookie season, which gave a young team hope for the future. He is a smart player with a good work ethic, and he should improve considerably this season.
16. Brad Miller, Sacramento: Wiley veteran who still has a nice, well-rounded game. Averaged 3.7 assists, which is tops among all centers in the league. Isn't good enough to carry a team, but he was fine when the Kings were good. On this bad team, some of his talents get wasted. For a guy who never was drafted, he has done well through a 10-year career.
17. Kendrick Perkins, Boston: Virtually invisible while playing in the shadow of the Big Three, but you can't discount the contributions he made for the NBA champions. He understood his role, and he did it well. He averaged just 6.9 points and 6.1 rebounds, but he also shot 61.5 percent from the field. Will want to spread his wings a little more this season.
18. Mehmet Okur, Utah: Another one of those unconventional centers who would rather play on the perimeter and shoot the 3-pointers. He does give Carlos Boozer room to work inside. With coach Jerry Sloan riding him, Okur has proved he can play under pressure. Needs to improve defensively to give the Jazz a chance to compete in the West, but he has carved a useful role on an improving team.
19. Andris Biedrins, Golden State: Really isn't a conventional center, but the Warriors are so unconventional that he fits in well. Coming off his best NBA season -- 10.5 points and 9.8 rebounds -- Biedrins has grown into a nice NBA player. His problem is guarding the other big guys.
20. Brendan Haywood, Washington: Always seems to get blamed for Washington's failures, but he has given the Wizards some consistency around the basket. He'll never be anything more than an average center, but the lack of good centers in today's game actually makes him look respectable.
21. Eddy Curry, ........
http://www.sportsline.com/nba/story/10977659
1. Dwight Howard, Orlando: Howard still has plenty of room and time to grow as an NBA star. The Superman cape he unveiled last All-Star Weekend might not be too much of a stretch. He should start leaping tall buildings soon, eager to continue expanding his game. The Magic have no excuse if they can't build a serious contender around this inside force.
2. Yao Ming, Houston: It's time for Yao to start acting and playing like a former No. 1 pick and lead the Rockets deep into the playoffs. With both Tracy McGrady and Ron Artest alongside him, there should be no reason why Yao can't get the Rockets past any of the Western contenders.
3. Andrew Bynum, Los Angeles Lakers: After missing all the playoff fun last season, Bynum could either disrupt what the Lakers had or put them over the top. Now going into his fourth season (directly from high school), he has shown some enormous talent. His trick will be making it fit on a team that reached the NBA Finals without him.
4. Shaquille O'Neal, Phoenix: Sure, he has slowed considerably. He is not as hungry anymore, but he still is a dominating presence around the basket. He is counting down the days to retirement, but if Shaq takes his conditioning seriously, the Suns will give him a chance to add one more championship ring before he leaves the game. And that could motivate him this season.
5. Marcus Camby, Los Angeles Clippers: It's hard to ask for anything more than 13.1 rebounds and 3.6 blocks a game from a center, which still makes Camby valuable, even if Denver didn't want him anymore. From a fantasy perspective, his value will go down when he has to share the lane with Chris Kaman. Together, they should give the Clips a defensive presence.
6. Rasheed Wallace, Detroit: Yes, he's a strange dude, but it's hard to fault his skill set. He can guard the big guys inside, then cause serious matchup problems at the other end with his long-range shooting. He gave Howard and the Magic fits in the playoffs last spring, but he also gives his teammates fits.
7. Jermaine O'Neal, Toronto: Life soured in Indiana, but the move to Toronto should revitalize his career. His presence will allow Chris Bosh to move to power forward, giving the Raptors a nice frontcourt. Remember, O'Neal once averaged 20/10 in back-to-back seasons. And he is only 29 years old, hoping to regain the status he once had.
8. Greg Oden, Portland: He missed all of last season after being the No. 1 pick in the draft, but he will join the league now with a vengeance, making sure his presence is felt. The year off will relieve the pressure of being a No. 1 pick, making his debut season even more impressive.
2008-09 Fantasy Projections
9. Emeka Okafor, Charlotte: As long as he understands his role and limitations, he is more than adequate as a center. After a great college career, he came into the league with over-inflated expectations heaped upon him. He is a defender/rebounder who would do well on a better team, but he gets exposed and criticized because he can't carry a bad team like the Bobcats.
10. Tyson Chandler, New Orleans: Although their point guard gets all the credit, the Hornets would not be a contender without Chandler, who has begun to shine after a slow start in Chicago. He needs to block more shots, but averaging a double-double (11.8 ppg and 11.7 rpg) makes him comfortable in his role. Should score a little more this season.
11. Chris Kaman, Los Angeles Clippers: His role looks a little uncertain with Marcus Camby on the roster, but that doesn't take away from a career season. Kaman averaged 15.7 points, 12.7 rebounds and 2.7 blocks with Elton Brand on the sideline. If Baron Davis will pass him the ball, Kaman will score, but it's unlikely he will get the opportunities he had last season.
12. Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Cleveland: His toughest assignment is making sure he stays out of the way of LeBron James. Ilgauskas' skills have eroded, but he still can hit the open jumper, make a good pass and guard the slower centers in the league. He needs lots of help trying to guard the younger centers.
13. Samuel Dalembert, Philadelphia: He doesn't know it yet, but he will benefit greatly from the addition of Elton Brand, who will garner all the attention around the basket. Dalembert won't have to worry about scoring, which he doesn't do well. Instead, he can focus on what he does do well, and that's rebound and block shots. If he improves his post defense, he can really help turn the 76ers into contenders in the East.
14. Andrew Bogut, Milwaukee: Another former No. 1 pick who has been viewed as a disappointment because expectations were too high. Won't ever be a star, but he can be more than adequate. Watch for new coach Scott Skiles to ramp him up a notch. If he can raise his intensity level, Bogut can help bring the Bucks back to respectability.
15. Al Horford, Atlanta: A little out of position, but he handles it well, using his youth and athleticism to provide what the Hawks need at this spot. Had a good rookie season, which gave a young team hope for the future. He is a smart player with a good work ethic, and he should improve considerably this season.
16. Brad Miller, Sacramento: Wiley veteran who still has a nice, well-rounded game. Averaged 3.7 assists, which is tops among all centers in the league. Isn't good enough to carry a team, but he was fine when the Kings were good. On this bad team, some of his talents get wasted. For a guy who never was drafted, he has done well through a 10-year career.
17. Kendrick Perkins, Boston: Virtually invisible while playing in the shadow of the Big Three, but you can't discount the contributions he made for the NBA champions. He understood his role, and he did it well. He averaged just 6.9 points and 6.1 rebounds, but he also shot 61.5 percent from the field. Will want to spread his wings a little more this season.
18. Mehmet Okur, Utah: Another one of those unconventional centers who would rather play on the perimeter and shoot the 3-pointers. He does give Carlos Boozer room to work inside. With coach Jerry Sloan riding him, Okur has proved he can play under pressure. Needs to improve defensively to give the Jazz a chance to compete in the West, but he has carved a useful role on an improving team.
19. Andris Biedrins, Golden State: Really isn't a conventional center, but the Warriors are so unconventional that he fits in well. Coming off his best NBA season -- 10.5 points and 9.8 rebounds -- Biedrins has grown into a nice NBA player. His problem is guarding the other big guys.
20. Brendan Haywood, Washington: Always seems to get blamed for Washington's failures, but he has given the Wizards some consistency around the basket. He'll never be anything more than an average center, but the lack of good centers in today's game actually makes him look respectable.
21. Eddy Curry, ........
http://www.sportsline.com/nba/story/10977659
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Everyone knows fantasy wiese Eddy Curry is HORRIBLE.......
even before in the 06-07.........when he should have been an all-star(2nd best center in the east)....he was still horrible as a fantasy player...........
but the NBA is not fantasy........which is why Marion gets traded for Shaq..........
even before in the 06-07.........when he should have been an all-star(2nd best center in the east)....he was still horrible as a fantasy player...........
but the NBA is not fantasy........which is why Marion gets traded for Shaq..........
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Wow this list is straight up terrible..
Bynum at no. 3??
Greg Oden at 8 without even touching a ball in an official NBA game??
Mehmet Okur all the way down at 18?
Bynum at no. 3??
Greg Oden at 8 without even touching a ball in an official NBA game??
Mehmet Okur all the way down at 18?
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waya wrote:Wow this list is straight up terrible..
Bynum at no. 3??
Greg Oden at 8 without even touching a ball in an official NBA game??
Mehmet Okur all the way down at 18?
Bynum's my #3.
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that list is a total joke. is it some fantasy basketball list or something?
its terrible
bynum #3 and chandler, kamen, bogut and big Z in the 10-20 range? wow!
its terrible
bynum #3 and chandler, kamen, bogut and big Z in the 10-20 range? wow!
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inb4optimuscallsbynumastiffandwasonlyplayingforacontractforhecanbuymorefruitloops.
LOL Y U MAD THO?
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blueNorange wrote:inb4optimuscallsbynumastiffandwasonlyplayingforacontractforhecanbuymorefruitloops.
I dont like Bynum I dont know why. He plays like a stiff with a nice vertical to me. If he wasnt on the Laker's I dont think he would be as hyped. He has done NOTHING for a complete season.
If we had drafted him they would be calling him a decent at best.
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Remember Camby will be the PF for a majority of his playing time this season so thats where he should be ranked.
1. Yao Ming
2. Dwight Howard
3. Chris Kaman
4. Andrew Bynum (I dont think hes gonna have quite the season some people think but the C position sucks)
5. Emeka Okafor
6. JO
7. Shaq
8. Horford
9. Bogut
10. Miller (hes gonna be traded at some point during the season, he doesnt fit the direction the Kings are going and he still has value.
I think Zach (if he stays with the team) should be our starting Center over Curry, because Lee is the best out of all of them.
1. Yao Ming
2. Dwight Howard
3. Chris Kaman
4. Andrew Bynum (I dont think hes gonna have quite the season some people think but the C position sucks)
5. Emeka Okafor
6. JO
7. Shaq
8. Horford
9. Bogut
10. Miller (hes gonna be traded at some point during the season, he doesnt fit the direction the Kings are going and he still has value.
I think Zach (if he stays with the team) should be our starting Center over Curry, because Lee is the best out of all of them.
Go Knicks!
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slang711 wrote:Here are the top 20 centers in the NBA, based on players' projected impact on the 2008-09 season:
1. Dwight Howard, Orlando: Howard still has plenty of room and time to grow as an NBA star. The Superman cape he unveiled last All-Star Weekend might not be too much of a stretch. He should start leaping tall buildings soon, eager to continue expanding his game. The Magic have no excuse if they can't build a serious contender around this inside force.
2. Yao Ming, Houston: It's time for Yao to start acting and playing like a former No. 1 pick and lead the Rockets deep into the playoffs. With both Tracy McGrady and Ron Artest alongside him, there should be no reason why Yao can't get the Rockets past any of the Western contenders.
3. Andrew Bynum, Los Angeles Lakers: After missing all the playoff fun last season, Bynum could either disrupt what the Lakers had or put them over the top. Now going into his fourth season (directly from high school), he has shown some enormous talent. His trick will be making it fit on a team that reached the NBA Finals without him.
4. Shaquille O'Neal, Phoenix: Sure, he has slowed considerably. He is not as hungry anymore, but he still is a dominating presence around the basket. He is counting down the days to retirement, but if Shaq takes his conditioning seriously, the Suns will give him a chance to add one more championship ring before he leaves the game. And that could motivate him this season.
5. Marcus Camby, Los Angeles Clippers: It's hard to ask for anything more than 13.1 rebounds and 3.6 blocks a game from a center, which still makes Camby valuable, even if Denver didn't want him anymore. From a fantasy perspective, his value will go down when he has to share the lane with Chris Kaman. Together, they should give the Clips a defensive presence.
6. Rasheed Wallace, Detroit: Yes, he's a strange dude, but it's hard to fault his skill set. He can guard the big guys inside, then cause serious matchup problems at the other end with his long-range shooting. He gave Howard and the Magic fits in the playoffs last spring, but he also gives his teammates fits.
7. Jermaine O'Neal, Toronto: Life soured in Indiana, but the move to Toronto should revitalize his career. His presence will allow Chris Bosh to move to power forward, giving the Raptors a nice frontcourt. Remember, O'Neal once averaged 20/10 in back-to-back seasons. And he is only 29 years old, hoping to regain the status he once had.
8. Greg Oden, Portland: He missed all of last season after being the No. 1 pick in the draft, but he will join the league now with a vengeance, making sure his presence is felt. The year off will relieve the pressure of being a No. 1 pick, making his debut season even more impressive.
2008-09 Fantasy Projections
9. Emeka Okafor, Charlotte: As long as he understands his role and limitations, he is more than adequate as a center. After a great college career, he came into the league with over-inflated expectations heaped upon him. He is a defender/rebounder who would do well on a better team, but he gets exposed and criticized because he can't carry a bad team like the Bobcats.
10. Tyson Chandler, New Orleans: Although their point guard gets all the credit, the Hornets would not be a contender without Chandler, who has begun to shine after a slow start in Chicago. He needs to block more shots, but averaging a double-double (11.8 ppg and 11.7 rpg) makes him comfortable in his role. Should score a little more this season.
11. Chris Kaman, Los Angeles Clippers: His role looks a little uncertain with Marcus Camby on the roster, but that doesn't take away from a career season. Kaman averaged 15.7 points, 12.7 rebounds and 2.7 blocks with Elton Brand on the sideline. If Baron Davis will pass him the ball, Kaman will score, but it's unlikely he will get the opportunities he had last season.
12. Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Cleveland: His toughest assignment is making sure he stays out of the way of LeBron James. Ilgauskas' skills have eroded, but he still can hit the open jumper, make a good pass and guard the slower centers in the league. He needs lots of help trying to guard the younger centers.
13. Samuel Dalembert, Philadelphia: He doesn't know it yet, but he will benefit greatly from the addition of Elton Brand, who will garner all the attention around the basket. Dalembert won't have to worry about scoring, which he doesn't do well. Instead, he can focus on what he does do well, and that's rebound and block shots. If he improves his post defense, he can really help turn the 76ers into contenders in the East.
14. Andrew Bogut, Milwaukee: Another former No. 1 pick who has been viewed as a disappointment because expectations were too high. Won't ever be a star, but he can be more than adequate. Watch for new coach Scott Skiles to ramp him up a notch. If he can raise his intensity level, Bogut can help bring the Bucks back to respectability.
15. Al Horford, Atlanta: A little out of position, but he handles it well, using his youth and athleticism to provide what the Hawks need at this spot. Had a good rookie season, which gave a young team hope for the future. He is a smart player with a good work ethic, and he should improve considerably this season.
16. Brad Miller, Sacramento: Wiley veteran who still has a nice, well-rounded game. Averaged 3.7 assists, which is tops among all centers in the league. Isn't good enough to carry a team, but he was fine when the Kings were good. On this bad team, some of his talents get wasted. For a guy who never was drafted, he has done well through a 10-year career.
17. Kendrick Perkins, Boston: Virtually invisible while playing in the shadow of the Big Three, but you can't discount the contributions he made for the NBA champions. He understood his role, and he did it well. He averaged just 6.9 points and 6.1 rebounds, but he also shot 61.5 percent from the field. Will want to spread his wings a little more this season.
18. Mehmet Okur, Utah: Another one of those unconventional centers who would rather play on the perimeter and shoot the 3-pointers. He does give Carlos Boozer room to work inside. With coach Jerry Sloan riding him, Okur has proved he can play under pressure. Needs to improve defensively to give the Jazz a chance to compete in the West, but he has carved a useful role on an improving team.
19. Andris Biedrins, Golden State: Really isn't a conventional center, but the Warriors are so unconventional that he fits in well. Coming off his best NBA season -- 10.5 points and 9.8 rebounds -- Biedrins has grown into a nice NBA player. His problem is guarding the other big guys.
20. Brendan Haywood, Washington: Always seems to get blamed for Washington's failures, but he has given the Wizards some consistency around the basket. He'll never be anything more than an average center, but the lack of good centers in today's game actually makes him look respectable.
21. Eddy Curry, ........
http://www.sportsline.com/nba/story/10977659
Underrated: Biedrins (plays like a young Marcus Camby), Horford (should have won ROY), Kaman (hello? 17 and 13?), Chandler, and even dare I say Marcus Camby (the man was DPOY, blocks the ball like old school mutumbo and rebounds like a machine---smart player)
OVERrated: Yao (injury prone, not a prolific rebounder), Shaq (makes me sad to say but he's slowing down), Rasheed (don't get the obsession with this guy), Jermaine (too old, prolific chucker, weak fg %, and looks like a damn baby), Okafor (can we say FRAGILE?!?)
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At first I was going to say that this is a fantasy basketball list and that Curry is always undervalued. Then I read it over again, and now I realize that I'd rather have 18 of those guys instead of Curry. Cleveland and DC can keep Illgauskas and Haywood, but give me any one of those centers any day of the week and I'd play him over Curry.
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Dwight Howard
He's still very raw and needs refinement but he's a franchise player who can really carry a team in the way few others can.
Yao
Very skilled center who rebounds well and is a good defender, but he doesn't seem to have that tenacity and leadership that Howard shows, which is why he's #2 on my list.
Bynum
bynum gets a lot of hype, but he's a smooth player on the offensive side of the ball with a shockingly refined game for a guy this young. Defensively his intensity could stand to improve in consistency and a full season of production is needed before anyone even thinks about comparing him to Howard or Yao, but in a year that big 3 will be a viable conversation.
Kaman
Another center I wanted the Knicks to draft, Kaman is a very good scoring center as he can finish around the rim and has good touch, he's an exceptional rebounder and very big strong man defender, his help d is good but still not great and he could improve as a passer, but he's severily under-rated often.
Chandler
Perfect situation has turned him into close to the player he used to be he still needs to show refinement on the offensive end and prove he can be a factor in a half court set.
Bogut
I'm really a fan of bogut's as he's an intense guy down low and while he doesn't provide good help D he's solid in man and a great piece on the offensive side, he's very well rounded can pass very well for a big and grabs a lot of rebounds.
Shaq
The Diesel's old...no further analysis necessary
JO
He's banged up and has held the ball to long in the past but with Bosh the star on that toronto team I could see JO really having a big come back season if he doesn't sustain a major injury.
Okafor
Can't score on a crippled 12 year old, but is a force on teh defensive end and as a rebounder, good piece to the puzzle but not even close to being able to carry a team.
Okur
Severily under-rated although his Defense is bad, part of that could be boozers horrendous D next to him, but it's a significant concern for an otherwise very talented player.
Horford
He's playing here this year and he's strong, smart and athletic enough to make it work against most centers. If he progresses on the offensive end he could be shooting up this list.
Biedrins
He's the right guy for that team and he can really move.
Dalembert
He gets blocks and is a force on teh glass and in help D but he needs to get better in man, I don't expect any offense from him, luckily with brand he'll be able to swap assignments and focus on help D which will make him more effective.
Not on the list because will be playing PF this season:
Amare, Sheed and Camby
He's still very raw and needs refinement but he's a franchise player who can really carry a team in the way few others can.
Yao
Very skilled center who rebounds well and is a good defender, but he doesn't seem to have that tenacity and leadership that Howard shows, which is why he's #2 on my list.
Bynum
bynum gets a lot of hype, but he's a smooth player on the offensive side of the ball with a shockingly refined game for a guy this young. Defensively his intensity could stand to improve in consistency and a full season of production is needed before anyone even thinks about comparing him to Howard or Yao, but in a year that big 3 will be a viable conversation.
Kaman
Another center I wanted the Knicks to draft, Kaman is a very good scoring center as he can finish around the rim and has good touch, he's an exceptional rebounder and very big strong man defender, his help d is good but still not great and he could improve as a passer, but he's severily under-rated often.
Chandler
Perfect situation has turned him into close to the player he used to be he still needs to show refinement on the offensive end and prove he can be a factor in a half court set.
Bogut
I'm really a fan of bogut's as he's an intense guy down low and while he doesn't provide good help D he's solid in man and a great piece on the offensive side, he's very well rounded can pass very well for a big and grabs a lot of rebounds.
Shaq
The Diesel's old...no further analysis necessary
JO
He's banged up and has held the ball to long in the past but with Bosh the star on that toronto team I could see JO really having a big come back season if he doesn't sustain a major injury.
Okafor
Can't score on a crippled 12 year old, but is a force on teh defensive end and as a rebounder, good piece to the puzzle but not even close to being able to carry a team.
Okur
Severily under-rated although his Defense is bad, part of that could be boozers horrendous D next to him, but it's a significant concern for an otherwise very talented player.
Horford
He's playing here this year and he's strong, smart and athletic enough to make it work against most centers. If he progresses on the offensive end he could be shooting up this list.
Biedrins
He's the right guy for that team and he can really move.
Dalembert
He gets blocks and is a force on teh glass and in help D but he needs to get better in man, I don't expect any offense from him, luckily with brand he'll be able to swap assignments and focus on help D which will make him more effective.
Not on the list because will be playing PF this season:
Amare, Sheed and Camby
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cgf wrote:Dwight Howard
He's still very raw and needs refinement but he's a franchise player who can really carry a team in the way few others can.
Yao
Very skilled center who rebounds well and is a good defender, but he doesn't seem to have that tenacity and leadership that Howard shows, which is why he's #2 on my list.
Bynum
bynum gets a lot of hype, but he's a smooth player on the offensive side of the ball with a shockingly refined game for a guy this young. Defensively his intensity could stand to improve in consistency and a full season of production is needed before anyone even thinks about comparing him to Howard or Yao, but in a year that big 3 will be a viable conversation.
Kaman
Another center I wanted the Knicks to draft, Kaman is a very good scoring center as he can finish around the rim and has good touch, he's an exceptional rebounder and very big strong man defender, his help d is good but still not great and he could improve as a passer, but he's severily under-rated often.
Chandler
Perfect situation has turned him into close to the player he used to be he still needs to show refinement on the offensive end and prove he can be a factor in a half court set.
Bogut
I'm really a fan of bogut's as he's an intense guy down low and while he doesn't provide good help D he's solid in man and a great piece on the offensive side, he's very well rounded can pass very well for a big and grabs a lot of rebounds.
Shaq
The Diesel's old...no further analysis necessary
JO
He's banged up and has held the ball to long in the past but with Bosh the star on that toronto team I could see JO really having a big come back season if he doesn't sustain a major injury.
Okafor
Can't score on a crippled 12 year old, but is a force on teh defensive end and as a rebounder, good piece to the puzzle but not even close to being able to carry a team.
Okur
Severily under-rated although his Defense is bad, part of that could be boozers horrendous D next to him, but it's a significant concern for an otherwise very talented player.
Horford
He's playing here this year and he's strong, smart and athletic enough to make it work against most centers. If he progresses on the offensive end he could be shooting up this list.
Biedrins
He's the right guy for that team and he can really move.
Dalembert
He gets blocks and is a force on teh glass and in help D but he needs to get better in man, I don't expect any offense from him, luckily with brand he'll be able to swap assignments and focus on help D which will make him more effective.
Not on the list because will be playing PF this season:
Amare, Sheed and Camby
Sheed will be playing PF this year? Where is Andrew Bynum or Greg Oden?
Chandler is way to high on your list, he has no offensive game other than catching the ball above the hoop and placing it in the basket, block shots is the most overrated stat in the game,.
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Scalabrine wrote:Where is Andrew Bynum or Greg Oden?
Look again at what you quoted, Bynum is third.
As far as the list goes, I think it's terrible. Yeah, we all know Eddy Curry is one of the worst centers, no, players in the realm of fantasy basketball. But if this list is really meant to be according to projected impact, how many more guys actually have a bigger impact on the offensive end than E-City? Shaq/Bynum too high. Kaman too low. Perkins/Haywood?
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Most of those guys are unattainable or I wouldn’t want them anyway (as they are overpaid and/or old). Right now we just need to find a complimentary C who’s going to be solid defensively, block some shots, protect the paint.
And Al Hortford is going to jump past a lot of people on that list very soon. I would move him up to like #4 on that list.
And Al Hortford is going to jump past a lot of people on that list very soon. I would move him up to like #4 on that list.
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C: Timelord | Paul Reed | M Brown
PF: Sabonis | Lauri Markkanen
SF: Lebron | Lauri Markkanen
SG: DWhite | Lonnie Walker | Shake | Ty Jerome
PG: VanFleet | Tre Jones | Rose | Deuce
C: Timelord | Paul Reed | M Brown
PF: Sabonis | Lauri Markkanen
SF: Lebron | Lauri Markkanen
SG: DWhite | Lonnie Walker | Shake | Ty Jerome
PG: VanFleet | Tre Jones | Rose | Deuce
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some of those guys aren't centers and in 2 years will either be gone (Shaq) or no longer the player we think of the as (JO). Then Z is always a ?
it is bias i know, but Curry could easily out do some of those guys 16-20.
Dally is just the Defensive version of Curry IMO.
If you notice a majority of these guys are not stars either, except the top few. So that goes to show you that the NBA is week a C and the ones who are the better defenders are either short (Okafor) or skinny (Dally, Chandler, Camby). Outside the top 5, Kaman is the only top true center in that he is a force on both sides of the ball (i still think Camby and ZBo should be swapped for logic reasons).
We know Curry only scores. And he only scores when things are going good for him. And that he isn't as mentally tough as some other players. Yes he has a lot of flaws, but I still would retain a 25/26 yo C w/ a decent (although overpaid) contract. Its not just him is a bad defender, every frontcourt player on our team is bad, including Lee.
it is bias i know, but Curry could easily out do some of those guys 16-20.
Dally is just the Defensive version of Curry IMO.
If you notice a majority of these guys are not stars either, except the top few. So that goes to show you that the NBA is week a C and the ones who are the better defenders are either short (Okafor) or skinny (Dally, Chandler, Camby). Outside the top 5, Kaman is the only top true center in that he is a force on both sides of the ball (i still think Camby and ZBo should be swapped for logic reasons).
We know Curry only scores. And he only scores when things are going good for him. And that he isn't as mentally tough as some other players. Yes he has a lot of flaws, but I still would retain a 25/26 yo C w/ a decent (although overpaid) contract. Its not just him is a bad defender, every frontcourt player on our team is bad, including Lee.
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I would love to draft Thabeet too. He's going to have a monster year in college. I could see him being a top 5 pick.
Mavs
C: Timelord | Paul Reed | M Brown
PF: Sabonis | Lauri Markkanen
SF: Lebron | Lauri Markkanen
SG: DWhite | Lonnie Walker | Shake | Ty Jerome
PG: VanFleet | Tre Jones | Rose | Deuce
C: Timelord | Paul Reed | M Brown
PF: Sabonis | Lauri Markkanen
SF: Lebron | Lauri Markkanen
SG: DWhite | Lonnie Walker | Shake | Ty Jerome
PG: VanFleet | Tre Jones | Rose | Deuce
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Is this really even a fantasy list?
Shaq is a DISASTER as a fantasy player and has been for years.
and...
wait for it...
Though he'll almost automatically get you in the top 5 it's almost impossible to win a league if Dwight is your center.
Camby may have been the best center in fantasy ball last year. Him or Amare.
Shaq is a DISASTER as a fantasy player and has been for years.
and...
wait for it...
Though he'll almost automatically get you in the top 5 it's almost impossible to win a league if Dwight is your center.
Camby may have been the best center in fantasy ball last year. Him or Amare.
BAF Clippers
PG: CP3 | SGA
SG: SGA | Big Ragu
SF: J Brown | Dorture Chamber
PF: Gordon | Niang
C: Capela | Sharpe
Deep Bench - Forrest | Oladipo | Fernando | Young | Svi | Cody Martin
PG: CP3 | SGA
SG: SGA | Big Ragu
SF: J Brown | Dorture Chamber
PF: Gordon | Niang
C: Capela | Sharpe
Deep Bench - Forrest | Oladipo | Fernando | Young | Svi | Cody Martin
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Brad Lohaus wrote:I would love to draft Thabeet too. He's going to have a monster year in college. I could see him being a top 5 pick.
If we can get our pick or a lottery pick in 2010 i'd hope we go after Thabeet with our first rounder, 2010 is going to be a great draft for young guards, Rubio, Wall, Shved and Holliday.
Thabeet would be great for this team as he'd give us much improved interior defense and help spark the fast break with his blocks and the missed shots he forces. I don't see him blowing up offensively this year and think he'll be a later lottery pick than he's projected to now.
I also like Dionte Christmas in the second round this year as he's a very smooth shooter, moves the ball well and puts in effort on D.
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Wait, why is that a reality check again? The whole world knows Curry sucks...
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mjhp911 wrote:Wait, why is that a reality check again? The whole world knows Curry sucks...
Some people still have hope that he can be aight and useful and need to be reminded how completely worthless McCurry really is.
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