Marbury for Iverson?

[prophet_of_rage]

If the Nuggets are looking to save salary would you offer Marbury's expiring for Iverson's expiring right now? Iverson would be a great fit in the system and could potentially play next to Crawford. Either can play the one or two. The shot selection would be just as bad as with Marbury. The plus side is this, though. You can resign Iverson for two years with a third team option so that he doesn't bother the cap for 2010 when he will be 36 in any event. Now you have a legit player at a decent price and still have it expire at the 2010 point. If Iverson isn't cool with the 2 year plan and 3rd year team option then you can just let him walk and you're right where you were earlier just without the Starbury headache.

[gavran]

If the Nuggets are looking to save salary would you offer Marbury's expiring for Iverson's expiring right now?

Don't tell me you can't see the oxymoron in this sentense.

[blueNorange]

a bum for another bum??

isiah is dancing as we speak.

[DE FENSE]

Isn't Marbury making more than Iverson this season...?

[GuyverADL]

If the Nuggets are looking to save salary would you offer Marbury's expiring for Iverson's expiring right now? Iverson would be a great fit in the system and could potentially play next to Crawford. Either can play the one or two. The shot selection would be just as bad as with Marbury. The plus side is this, though. You can resign Iverson for two years with a third team option so that he doesn't bother the cap for 2010 when he will be 36 in any event. Now you have a legit player at a decent price and still have it expire at the 2010 point. If Iverson isn't cool with the 2 year plan and 3rd year team option then you can just let him walk and you're right where you were earlier just without the Starbury headache.

I suggested a similar proposal. All we'd need to do is include Randolph fo r Martin. This is a no brainer deal for Denver. Martin is useless next to Nene. Randolph and Nene is the front court would compliment each other.

Nene and Randolph would both be 26 along with Anthony and Smith. Thats a decent young core.

The only issue is Martin's contract is literally UNTRADEABLE. Denver might even include a pick to rid themselves of Martin.

An alternative deal maybe:
Marbury and Curry
for
Iverson and Nene

Curry obviously has ZERO intention of opting out and is only going to see his trade value decrease further. Curry also isnt going to get in shape EVER. At least Nene can run and defend the paint.

Nene
Randolph
Richardson
Crawford
Iverson

Move Iverson at the deadline.

[Scalabrine]

If the Nuggets are looking to save salary would you offer Marbury's expiring for Iverson's expiring right now?

ban this fool.

I was waiting for this thread to pop up. What is the incentive for the Nuggets to trade Iversons expiring contract for Marburys expiring contract? It would put them in the same exact position but instead of having a player that gives you 25+ per game with 7+ assists on good shooting %'s you get Marbury. Wow.

[GuyverADL]

If the Nuggets are looking to save salary would you offer Marbury's expiring for Iverson's expiring right now?

ban this fool.

I was waiting for this thread to pop up. What is the incentive for the Nuggets to trade Iversons expiring contract for Marburys expiring contract? It would put them in the same exact position but instead of having a player that gives you 25+ per game with 7+ assists on good shooting %'s you get Marbury. Wow.

Iverson plays SG for Denver. Marbury is more of a PG and it would allow Smith to start at SG. At the end of the day Denver is going nowhere after trading Camby. They are in cost cutting mode.

Iverson and Nene for Marbury and Curry

Fair deal.

[Ming Kong!]

If the Nuggets are looking to save salary would you offer Marbury's expiring for Iverson's expiring right now?

ban this fool.

I was waiting for this thread to pop up. What is the incentive for the Nuggets to trade Iversons expiring contract for Marburys expiring contract? It would put them in the same exact position but instead of having a player that gives you 25+ per game with 7+ assists on good shooting %'s you get Marbury. Wow.

Iverson plays SG for Denver. Marbury is more of a PG and it would allow Smith to start at SG. At the end of the day Denver is going nowhere after trading Camby. They are in cost cutting mode.

Iverson and Nene for Marbury and Curry

Fair deal.

OMG, WHAT!?

[NikeAir]

If the Nuggets are looking to save salary would you offer Marbury's expiring for Iverson's expiring right now?

ban this fool.

I was waiting for this thread to pop up. What is the incentive for the Nuggets to trade Iversons expiring contract for Marburys expiring contract? It would put them in the same exact position but instead of having a player that gives you 25+ per game with 7+ assists on good shooting %'s you get Marbury. Wow.

Iverson plays SG for Denver. Marbury is more of a PG and it would allow Smith to start at SG. At the end of the day Denver is going nowhere after trading Camby. They are in cost cutting mode.

Iverson and Nene for Marbury and Curry

Fair deal.

No Marbury for AI is way loop sided

[NikeAir]

If the Nuggets are looking to save salary would you offer Marbury's expiring for Iverson's expiring right now?

ban this fool.

I was waiting for this thread to pop up. What is the incentive for the Nuggets to trade Iversons expiring contract for Marburys expiring contract? It would put them in the same exact position but instead of having a player that gives you 25+ per game with 7+ assists on good shooting %'s you get Marbury. Wow.

Iverson plays SG for Denver. Marbury is more of a PG and it would allow Smith to start at SG. At the end of the day Denver is going nowhere after trading Camby. They are in cost cutting mode.

Iverson and Nene for Marbury and Curry

Fair deal.

You guys are on crack Marbs and Iverson are making the sam emoney and and Iverson is beter than Marbs. Yo could make aarguemkent for Nene though

[prophet_of_rage]

If the Nuggets are looking to save salary would you offer Marbury's expiring for Iverson's expiring right now?

ban this fool.

I was waiting for this thread to pop up. What is the incentive for the Nuggets to trade Iversons expiring contract for Marburys expiring contract? It would put them in the same exact position but instead of having a player that gives you 25+ per game with 7+ assists on good shooting %'s you get Marbury. Wow.

Denver is in costcutting mode right now. They move JR Smith into a starting role and get a PG that everybody knows will not be staying so there's no pressure to resign him. He balances the roster, gives you a viable scoring threat in a system that is completely run and gun and there is absolutely zero PR hit in letting him go. Unlike say trading Camby for a second round pick. They remain in good costcutting position but people won't decry Starbury leaving the way they might for Iverson. At least you can spin it.

As for the Knicks it gives them the best guard they have and the flexibility to resign him to remain competitive until 2010. I honestly think it's fair for both sides for completely different reasons.

I don't think we could get Nene for Curry, though.

[prophet_of_rage]

a bum for another bum??

isiah is dancing as we speak.

Isaiah would be dancing only after signing the 34 year old Iverson to a six year max contract. I'm talking about getting a better player at the same price who would only command a short contract extension (if any) on resigning.

[Scalabrine]

Iverson plays SG for Denver. Marbury is more of a PG and it would allow Smith to start at SG. At the end of the day Denver is going nowhere after trading Camby. They are in cost cutting mode.

Iverson and Nene for Marbury and Curry

Fair deal.

Are you being serious? Lets not focus on the fact that Denver would never accept that deal, lets focus on the fact that we would be adding Nene, who has a contract that goes till the 11'12 season at over 11.5 million, for Eddy Curry. Both players are overweight and overpaid and lazy, both players have the physical attributes to dominate in this league but both are lazy, in that case give me the one that has a shorter contract. Iverson for Marbury would mean we get a better player but he still walks at teh end of the year after we tell him "listen your 31 now, you can get one more big contract from a team but we will give you a 1 year deal with a team option for another". This is not a fit for either team, lets just drop it. You both dont have a clue about how to be a real GM.

[prophet_of_rage]

If the Nuggets are looking to save salary would you offer Marbury's expiring for Iverson's expiring right now?

Don't tell me you can't see the oxymoron in this sentense.

There is no oxymoron. The Nuggets want to save salary. Iverson is a popular player and they've already taken a black eye for giving away Camby to the Clippers for nothing more than a second round pick (which apparently the Knicks could have done.) They can save face by bringing in Marbury and giving Smith a chance at guard. At least they got a decent player back. Now Marbury isn't popular, though, so there would be no complaints if he weren't resigned or he could be used in a trade for a better long term player for a team looking for the expiring.

Neither team really changes their situation on the floor, but both teams look better for it and have more flexibility in the long run.

[Scalabrine]

Also, Iverson is the point guard for a majority of the minutes. How else do Anthony, Kleiza, and JR Smith get alot of minutes?

[prophet_of_rage]

Also, Iverson is the point guard for a majority of the minutes. How else do Anthony, Kleiza, and JR Smith get alot of minutes?

And where is your degree in sports management? I'm not engineering a trade for longer salary, but trying to keep the salary the same, get rid of a cancer, make sure that the pick that we have to give away isn't a lottery pick and still leaves us room for 2010 the year of the so-called plan.

Whether Denver says yes isn't the question. It's whether you would make the inquiry. I don't see that there are a lot of hazards swapping Iverson and Marbury. I do not see the centres being involved.

[GuyverADL]

Iverson plays SG for Denver. Marbury is more of a PG and it would allow Smith to start at SG. At the end of the day Denver is going nowhere after trading Camby. They are in cost cutting mode.

Iverson and Nene for Marbury and Curry

Fair deal.

Are you being serious? Lets not focus on the fact that Denver would never accept that deal, lets focus on the fact that we would be adding Nene, who has a contract that goes till the 11'12 season at over 11.5 million, for Eddy Curry. Both players are overweight and overpaid and lazy, both players have the physical attributes to dominate in this league but both are lazy, in that case give me the one that has a shorter contract. Iverson for Marbury would mean we get a better player but he still walks at teh end of the year after we tell him "listen your 31 now, you can get one more big contract from a team but we will give you a 1 year deal with a team option for another". This is not a fit for either team, lets just drop it. You both dont have a clue about how to be a real GM.

Denver didnt even OFFER Iverson an extension. Marbury is 2 yrs younger than Iverson and is less of a chucker. The Iverson and Anthony experiment has FAILED. He is gone at the end of the year anyway.

Nene is recovering from cancer but is in better shape than Curry. Nene can actually run for 30+ minutes a game and actually plays defense.

This is simply about finances. Does Walsh:

a) pay Marbury 20 million to go play for another team
b) have him be a constant headache in the locker room all season
c) trade him to get some value back in return

In regard to acquiring Nene
a) have Curry and Randolph on the same team destroying their individual value
b) have curry on the bench destroying his value
c) trade Randolph for pennies on the dollar
d) pray Curry decides to get in shape
e) trade Curry for someone who actually fills a need and can play in D'antoni's offense

[gavran]

If the Nuggets are looking to save salary would you offer Marbury's expiring for Iverson's expiring right now?

Don't tell me you can't see the oxymoron in this sentense.

There is no oxymoron. The Nuggets want to save salary. Iverson is a popular player and they've already taken a black eye for giving away Camby to the Clippers for nothing more than a second round pick (which apparently the Knicks could have done.) They can save face by bringing in Marbury and giving Smith a chance at guard. At least they got a decent player back. Now Marbury isn't popular, though, so there would be no complaints if he weren't resigned or he could be used in a trade for a better long term player for a team looking for the expiring.

Neither team really changes their situation on the floor, but both teams look better for it and have more flexibility in the long run.

No oxymoron? If you trade a $22 million expiring for another $22 million expiring how do you save money? It's basic math.....

[GuyverADL]

Also, Iverson is the point guard for a majority of the minutes. How else do Anthony, Kleiza, and JR Smith get alot of minutes?

And where is your degree in sports management? I'm not engineering a trade for longer salary, but trying to keep the salary the same, get rid of a cancer, make sure that the pick that we have to give away isn't a lottery pick and still leaves us room for 2010 the year of the so-called plan.

Whether Denver says yes isn't the question. It's whether you would make the inquiry. I don't see that there are a lot of hazards swapping Iverson and Marbury. I do not see the centres being involved.

Iverson has more "trade" value than Marbury because he isnt a headcase. Im not giving a pick to denver for a 1 year rental. Walsh isnt resigning a 34 year old SG.

The Knicks problem is Marbury AND the front court situation. Curry is out of shape and will likely be sitting on the bench for extended minutes this year. Walsh has to realize Curry is useless. Curry's value balances Iverson's. Nene has been often injured and has a contract one year longer than Curry.

The key to the deal would be not GIVING away 20 million and using 1/2 of that "saving" to pay Nene's extra year. Curry is NOT our center of the future.

[Gold Chain]

a bum for another bum??

isiah is dancing as we speak.

You must, must be high???

Iverson a bum?

Wow!!