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Re: 2024 Draft Prospects Orlando Magic Should Get

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:28 am
by tiderulz
drsd wrote:
QMemphis wrote:But how are you guys feeling about a Kennard 25 1st for Wendell Carter Jr.


The very last thing the Magic would want is another draft pick. And Carter is on a very good contact for Orlando.

So flip it around: Orlando's 18, Houstan-or-Howard, and the Denver 2025 FRP for Kennard. Orlando is trading for depth, not assets.

thats a big overpay for a good shooting, but bench SG.

Re: 2024 Draft Prospects Orlando Magic Should Get

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:52 am
by drsd
basketballRob wrote:Kennard will likely be an FA, and we could sign him for a low contract. The Grizzlies aren't going to pay the tax. The tax threshold is projected to be $172m in 24-25. If the Grizzlies pick up Kennard's option, they'll be at $175m.


Kennard or another 10 marginal starter/ quality bench SGs are available on the FA market. I cannot see Orlando trading for such a player given the wide-open FA market.

Re: 2024 Draft Prospects Orlando Magic Should Get

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 1:45 pm
by basketballRob
drsd wrote:
basketballRob wrote:Kennard will likely be an FA, and we could sign him for a low contract. The Grizzlies aren't going to pay the tax. The tax threshold is projected to be $172m in 24-25. If the Grizzlies pick up Kennard's option, they'll be at $175m.


Kennard or another 10 marginal starter/ quality bench SGs are available on the FA market. I cannot see Orlando trading for such a player given the wide-open FA market.
That's my point. Unless Memphis' pick is in the range to draft Clingan, I wouldn't do it. 1 year of Kennard at $15m and the rights to Clingan.

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Re: 2024 Draft Prospects Orlando Magic Should Get

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:38 pm
by QMemphis
basketballRob wrote:
QMemphis wrote:
drsd wrote:
Banchero's agent. Does this mean anything?

How far would the Magic go here in a trade?

Suggs, Black, Carter, the 2024 FRP, the better of the Magic or Denver FRP, the Orl/Wiz/Suns FRP once it becomes something Memphis wants.

I really don't think there is an offer the Magic would refuse, so long as F-Wagner and Banchero was not included.


Mike Miller stays here in Memphis and lol no Grizz not trading Ja. But how are you guys feeling about a Kennard 25 1st for Wendell Carter Jr.
Kennard will likely be an FA, and we could sign him for a low contract. The Grizzlies aren't going to pay the tax. The tax threshold is projected to be $172m in 24-25. If the Grizzlies pick up Kennard's option, they'll be at $175m.

Carter has a lower salary and would put the Grizzlies under the tax threshold, and if we could draft Clingan, I'd do it. He won 2 championships in 2 years.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/donovan-clingan-1.html

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I said 25 1st not our first this year. The 24 1st is a lottery top ten pick, ain’t no way we doing that for WCJ.

Re: 2024 Draft Prospects Orlando Magic Should Get

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 3:37 pm
by cedric76
QMemphis wrote:
basketballRob wrote:
QMemphis wrote:
Mike Miller stays here in Memphis and lol no Grizz not trading Ja. But how are you guys feeling about a Kennard 25 1st for Wendell Carter Jr.
Kennard will likely be an FA, and we could sign him for a low contract. The Grizzlies aren't going to pay the tax. The tax threshold is projected to be $172m in 24-25. If the Grizzlies pick up Kennard's option, they'll be at $175m.

Carter has a lower salary and would put the Grizzlies under the tax threshold, and if we could draft Clingan, I'd do it. He won 2 championships in 2 years.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/donovan-clingan-1.html

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I said 25 1st not our first this year. The 24 1st is a lottery top ten pick, ain’t no way we doing that for WCJ.


No thx

Re: 2024 Draft Prospects Orlando Magic Should Get

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:22 pm
by T-Cat
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Re: 2024 Draft Prospects Orlando Magic Should Get

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2024 1:20 am
by Skybox
Tankathon has some really interesting players mocked around our general area. There could very well be trade up opportunities too.

I'm leaning much more towards a big trade, but...interesting if guys like Collier, McCain, Shannon, Carter are on the table.

Re: 2024 Draft Prospects Orlando Magic Should Get

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2024 6:53 pm
by zaymon
Skybox wrote:Tankathon has some really interesting players mocked around our general area. There could very well be trade up opportunities too.

I'm leaning much more towards a big trade, but...interesting if guys like Collier, McCain, Shannon, Carter are on the table.


I like our spot. Biggest downside is that we draft after Heat and 76ers, who both have excellent draft evaluators. At least we are drafting before Ujiri.
Da Silva, Filipowski, McCain, Carter, Edey, Furphy, Holmes are all very interesting to me. From later prospects i like Karaban and Scheierman. Dark horse riser Nunez.

Re: 2024 Draft Prospects Orlando Magic Should Get

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2024 8:24 pm
by RookieStar
Ill be honest... I have no idea who these dudes are already.

Re: 2024 Draft Prospects Orlando Magic Should Get

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2024 8:52 pm
by KillMonger
Skybox wrote:Tankathon has some really interesting players mocked around our general area. There could very well be trade up opportunities too.

I'm leaning much more towards a big trade, but...interesting if guys like Collier, McCain, Shannon, Carter are on the table.
I'd be surprised if we take another guard

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Re: 2024 Draft Prospects Orlando Magic Should Get

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2024 9:02 pm
by tiderulz
KillMonger wrote:
Skybox wrote:Tankathon has some really interesting players mocked around our general area. There could very well be trade up opportunities too.

I'm leaning much more towards a big trade, but...interesting if guys like Collier, McCain, Shannon, Carter are on the table.
I'd be surprised if we take another guard

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I'd like a combo forward. da Silva isnt a bad option.

Re: 2024 Draft Prospects Orlando Magic Should Get

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2024 10:02 pm
by MasterGMer
If Isaiah Collier is still available at 18, I'd draft him. I know I know another PG? lol

Re: 2024 Draft Prospects Orlando Magic Should Get

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2024 10:16 pm
by basketballRob
I like Shannon's size. 6'7" 225 lbs and plays with aggression.

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Re: 2024 Draft Prospects Orlando Magic Should Get

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2024 10:55 pm
by KillMonger
tiderulz wrote:
KillMonger wrote:
Skybox wrote:Tankathon has some really interesting players mocked around our general area. There could very well be trade up opportunities too.

I'm leaning much more towards a big trade, but...interesting if guys like Collier, McCain, Shannon, Carter are on the table.
I'd be surprised if we take another guard

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I'd like a combo forward. da Silva isnt a bad option.
To me it's either a swing or a big.... I think the front office replaces one or both of Fultz and Harris with a established guard.... Probably Malik Monk next to Suggs, normally I would rather have a more traditional point guard but with the way we play we don't really need one... We just need a guard with solid playmaking skills

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Re: 2024 Draft Prospects Orlando Magic Should Get

Posted: Wed May 1, 2024 2:57 am
by cedric76
Carter or da silva

Re: 2024 Draft Prospects Orlando Magic Should Get

Posted: Thu May 2, 2024 1:39 am
by CocoaFan
cedric76 wrote:Carter or da silva
Filipowski (he'll get stronger), Carter, da Silva, Salaum

Re: 2024 Draft Prospects Orlando Magic Should Get

Posted: Thu May 2, 2024 4:01 am
by RookieStar
Im probably the biggest Duke fan in this boqrd but u gotta ask, why would you want Flip? We already have a better version of him currently in MoeW.

You arent drafting him for defensive purposes thats for sure. You need JI to cover for him as well.

Re: 2024 Draft Prospects Orlando Magic Should Get

Posted: Thu May 2, 2024 5:19 am
by cedric76
CocoaFan wrote:
cedric76 wrote:Carter or da silva
Filipowski (he'll get stronger), Carter, da Silva, Salaum


I didn't mention Salaun because I can't see him dropped to us, Salaun would be a steal at 18, he has the potential to be a very good 2 Way player, a very good starter.

For those who speak french https://youtu.be/gu7YjwbGWnU?si=9A_mMV0eD4pt5_aT

Also, French Intels say that Chicago loves him so I can't see him drop to 18
Salaun, Carter, da Silva in that order. I ll be to the moon if we get one of those 3 guys

Re: 2024 Draft Prospects Orlando Magic Should Get

Posted: Thu May 2, 2024 5:33 am
by drsd
cedric76 wrote:Carter or da silva


If the Magic keeps this pick, drafting an upperclassman of need makes and enormous amount sense. Either player looks to be a multi-year backup for Orlando. I think there is clear value in either of these players for Orlando.

Question: do you think da Silva can develop to replace Ingles in time? Or is he more of a set-PF?

Re: 2024 Draft Prospects Orlando Magic Should Get

Posted: Thu May 2, 2024 5:46 am
by cedric76
drsd wrote:
cedric76 wrote:Carter or da silva


If the Magic keeps this pick, drafting an upperclassman of need makes and enormous amount sense. Either player looks to be a multi-year backup for Orlando. I think there is clear value in either of these players for Orlando.

Question: do you think da Silva can develop to replace Ingles in time? Or is he more of a set-PF?


Joe Ingles remplacement