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Post#1 Orlando/Miami/Washington
Sun Jun 6, 2010 10:15 am by OrlandoMagic

Miami, Orlando and Washington discuss S&T, shuffle draft picks… Toronto and Philadelphia want in too

Nothing is imminent, but with the 2010 NBA Draft looming, the Miami Heat, Orlando Magic and Washington Wizards have discussed a possible sign-and-trade scenario involving Heat forward Udonis Haslem and Wizards swingman Josh Howard. The proposed trade has the Orlando Magic receiving the aforementioned Haslem, Miami sharpshooter Daequan Cook, and former Clippers pick Al Thornton (whom the Wizards received in the three-team deal that sent Antawn Jamison to the Cavaliers). Miami, looking to solidify its core in order to attract free agents, is rumored to receive Josh Howard, Orlando back-up center Marcin Gortat, and Orlando’s No. 29 pick. Washington, who are determined to build a young nucleus around consensus No. 1 pick John Wall, get Miami forward Michael Beasley (a former No. 2 pick), Orlando forward Ryan Anderson, Miami’s No. 18 pick, and Orlando’s No. 59 pick. However, nothing is set in stone, as the Toronto Raptors (who could sign-and-trade star forward Chris Bosh) and the Philadelphia 76ers (who hold the rights to the No. 2 pick) also want to get involved in the talks.

In a separate deal, the Raptors and Detroit Pistons have reached out to each other about a Hedo Turkoglu-for-Tayshaun Prince swap, a trade that fell through at the deadline in Februay.


I found this on another forum... The guy who posted this stated he got this from a Hip Hop site. But provided no link
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Post#2 Re: Orlando/Miami/Washington
Sun Jun 6, 2010 10:21 am by BelgianMagic

C'mon toronto, please involve Bosh :p .. But Cook & Thornton? Dunno
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Post#3 Re: Orlando/Miami/Washington
Sun Jun 6, 2010 10:23 am by NickAndersonsBack25

if the trade has any credibility (which i don't concede it did), it was all lost when it said a Hedo for Prince swap could occur.
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Post#4 Re: Orlando/Miami/Washington
Sun Jun 6, 2010 10:30 am by BelgianMagic

I still can't see why everybody loves Haslem that much when we have the exact same player on our team already in Bass. And Cook & thornton? What's the point? Who's gonna backup Dwight? Anthony Johnson?
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Post#5 Re: Orlando/Miami/Washington
Sun Jun 6, 2010 10:30 am by backasswards

i don't like this at all. we give up gortat, ryno, our 1st round 29 pick and 2nd round 59 pick for haslem and howard....
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Post#6 Re: Orlando/Miami/Washington
Sun Jun 6, 2010 10:35 am by AdamTheGreek

You never trade within your own division. Especially something as huge as this that has been proposed by the OP.
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Post#7 Re: Orlando/Miami/Washington
Sun Jun 6, 2010 10:40 am by ~Snoopy~

backasswards wrote:i don't like this at all. we give up gortat, ryno, our 1st round 29 pick and 2nd round 59 pick for haslem and howard....


In this scenario Howard goes to miami.

Aside of that I think Miami could really be interested in Gortat after another great season jermaine gave them(ugh 1 reb in 28 mins? xD)
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Post#8 Re: Orlando/Miami/Washington
Sun Jun 6, 2010 11:06 am by J-Ville Smoke

Otis would be anticipating losing JJ/Barnes if he would want Cook.
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Post#9 Re: Orlando/Miami/Washington
Sun Jun 6, 2010 11:16 am by rshepard1985

So basically we trade Gortat + RYNO + #29 + #59 for Thorton, Haslem and Cook.

No Deal, I think we should be able to get much more for Gortat.
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Post#10 Re: Orlando/Miami/Washington
Sun Jun 6, 2010 11:17 am by backasswards

~Snoopy~ wrote:
backasswards wrote:i don't like this at all. we give up gortat, ryno, our 1st round 29 pick and 2nd round 59 pick for haslem and howard....


In this scenario Howard goes to miami.

Aside of that I think Miami could really be interested in Gortat after another great season jermaine gave them(ugh 1 reb in 28 mins? xD)


oops...read it wrong. either way i still don't really like it
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Post#11 Re: Orlando/Miami/Washington
Sun Jun 6, 2010 11:19 am by Nemesis21

This trade fails .
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Post#12 Re: Orlando/Miami/Washington
Sun Jun 6, 2010 11:43 am by j-ragg

I don't like this trade because I dont feel like our draft picks should be included, especially for a team so deep in cap hell like us.

I also don't like that we're doing a 3 way trade within our division. Just seems very unlikely. I do think Daquean Cook would be great in our system but we do have Redick who's been here from the start. Rather just re-sign him.
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Post#13 Re: Orlando/Miami/Washington
Sun Jun 6, 2010 11:56 am by JKelt613

Haslem is a better player than Bass

Al Thornton makes 2.8 million and Daequan Cook makes 2 million, so they are cheaper alternatives than Barnes and Redick.

We would then have the full MLE and the BAE to get a point and a center.

It's not the greatest trade, because while Thornton could move into the starting SF role, he isn't the smartest player.
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Post#14 Re: Orlando/Miami/Washington
Sun Jun 6, 2010 12:07 pm by BelgianMagic

Sorry to say but I would choose redick & barnes over Cook & thornton every day .. Redick is a very good fit for us, don't let him to away
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Post#15 Re: Orlando/Miami/Washington
Sun Jun 6, 2010 12:15 pm by Orange Ave.

Gortat for John Wall and future considerations.
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Post#16 Re: Orlando/Miami/Washington
Sun Jun 6, 2010 12:26 pm by Obie09

I don't see why we would target a lanky SF who can't even shoot the 3.
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Post#17 Re: Orlando/Miami/Washington
Sun Jun 6, 2010 12:34 pm by The-Dawson

Orlando better not even think about doin this trade we would get robbed i wouldnt even do Gortat and Ryan anderson for that
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Post#18 Re: Orlando/Miami/Washington
Sun Jun 6, 2010 12:43 pm by G-Heel

I don't see how this trade would put us over the top.. Trade Gortat, Ryno, 1st, and 2nd for Haslem, Cook, and Thorton? This may also means we lose Barnes and JJ.

So..

Losing:
Barnes, JJ, Gortat, Ryno, 1st, and 2nd

Gaining:
Haslem, Cook, and Thorton.

Yea, definitely not an upgrade. Beside, who knows if Haslem can get off the bench with Stan's love for stretch fours. If Stan want to go big and have Lewis at the 3, why don't he just try putting Bass at the 4? They are comparable players, same size, and play pretty much the same style.
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Post#19 Re: Orlando/Miami/Washington
Sun Jun 6, 2010 12:49 pm by ChocThunder25

Good thing that this most likely isn't true.

Cuz it's a bad trade.
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Post#20 Re: Orlando/Miami/Washington
Sun Jun 6, 2010 12:59 pm by CZ Eddie

BRANDON BASS
Born: Apr 30, 1985
Height: 6-8 / 2.03
Weight: 250 lbs. / 113.4 kg.
College: Louisiana State
Years Pro: 4

UDONIS HASLEM
Born: Jun 9, 1980
Height: 6-8 / 2.03
Weight: 235 lbs. / 106.6 kg.
College: Florida
Years Pro: 6

RYAN ANDERSON
Born: May 6, 1988
Height: 6-10 / 2.08
Weight: 240 lbs. / 108.9 kg.
College: California
Years Pro: 1

wtf?
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