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Who would you like to see the Magic draft ?

PG Marquis Teague
24
21%
PG/SG Tony Wroten
20
18%
SF Jeff Taylor
5
4%
PG Kendall Marshall
41
36%
SF Terrance Ross
2
2%
SF Quincy Miller
14
12%
PF Arnett Moultrie
4
4%
PF Andrew Nicholson
3
3%
 
Total votes : 113

Re: 2012 Orland Magic NBA draft thread ...

Postby Noonskadoodle on Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:45 am

A 345 of PJ3 BBD & D12 could be tough defensively considering PJ3 can guard the 3's. He has the length with the 7'2" wingspan to give some room, but still contest shots on the perimeter & he also gives D12 some help at protecting the rim.

Plus he creates mismatch problems at the 3 & we could go to him in the post at times. At 19 you really aren't expecting an all star caliber player but PJ3 has all the intangibles to be the steal of the draft at that spot.
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Re: 2012 Orland Magic NBA draft thread ...

Postby BaunceyChillups on Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:49 am

Noonskadoodle wrote:
BaunceyChillups wrote:
ChildishGambino wrote:So the Tweeners are falling? Terrence Jones...Tweener......Perry Jones....Tweener.......Tony Wroten...Tweener....All those guys reportedly are slipping down the board.....could be in our range but at the same time...they're slipping for a reason....


Wroten isn't a tweener, great passer.


Wroten is in the same boat Tyreke Evans was/is in......Tweener


Tyreke Evans is a ball-hogging knucklehead who doesn't know a thing about playing team basketball. Wroten has way better court vision and is pretty unselfish.
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Re: 2012 Orland Magic NBA draft thread ...

Postby Noonskadoodle on Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:00 am

BaunceyChillups wrote:
Tyreke Evans is a ball-hogging knucklehead who doesn't know a thing about playing team basketball. Wroten has way better court vision and is pretty unselfish.


For having WAY BETTER court vision its weird he only averaged 3.7 assists & 3.8 turnovers per game while Tyreke averaged 3.9 assists & 3.6 turnovers coming out of college. Pretty similar.
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Re: 2012 Orland Magic NBA draft thread ...

Postby Noonskadoodle on Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:12 am

WOW Damian Lillard absolutely LIT UP his Kings workout. I can honestly see them taking him & moving on from Tyreke. If we could find a way to get Tyreke while KEEPING number 19 & getting PJ3 that would be awesome :) /pipedream

Here is Lillards workout the guy can flat out shoot.

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Re: 2012 Orland Magic NBA draft thread ...

Postby ChildishGambino on Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:40 am

Ok at this point my favorites are......

1.Quincy Miller(i've said enough about him)
2.Perry Jones(if still there)
3.Marquis Teague(combine numbers impressed me)
4.Terrance Jones(Intriguing set of skills)
5.Jeff Taylor(great measurables)
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Re: 2012 Orland Magic NBA draft thread ...

Postby Neon1 on Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:07 pm

BaunceyChillups wrote:
Tyreke Evans is a ball-hogging knucklehead who doesn't know a thing about playing team basketball. Wroten has way better court vision and is pretty unselfish.


Completely false. Wroten has the 4th highest shot tendency of ALL the top 60-70 draftable prospects.

The ONLY guys to look for his own shots more per minute are PG Damian Lillard, SF Harrison Barnes and SG Kevin Murphy.

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Damian Lillard - 19.84 (1)
Harrison Barnes - 19.66 (2)
Kevin Murphy - 19.40 (3)
Tony Wroten - 19.13 (4)
Evan Founier - 18.30 (5)
Orlando Johnson - 18.21 (6)

For clarity sake, somebody who is widely known as being shoot-first Austin Rivers has a 15.4. That should give you an idea of how much those guys look for (and take) thier own shot.
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Re: 2012 Orland Magic NBA draft thread ...

Postby arkknight1988 on Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:12 pm

ChildishGambino wrote:Ok at this point my favorites are......

1.Quincy Miller(i've said enough about him)
2.Perry Jones(if still there)
3.Marquis Teague(combine numbers impressed me)
4.Terrance Jones(Intriguing set of skills)
5.Jeff Taylor(great measurables)

my top 5
PJIII
Austin Rivers
M Teague
Q.Miller
Royce White

our pick must be a great ball handler, unless we want duhon and turk doing it all *shivers*
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Re: 2012 Orland Magic NBA draft thread ...

Postby ChildishGambino on Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:32 pm

Nbadraft.net updated today.....seems like we're picking Kendall Marshall at 19.....he's slipping fast people.....he was the 10th pick just a week ago if i recall....Perry Jones seems to be slipping too....

Mock: http://www.nbadraft.net/2012mock_draft
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Re: 2012 Orland Magic NBA draft thread ...

Postby Neon1 on Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:38 pm

ChildishGambino wrote:Nbadraft.net updated today.....seems like we're picking Kendall Marshall at 19.....he's slipping fast people.....he was the 10th pick just a week ago if i recall....Perry Jones seems to be slipping too....

Mock: http://www.nbadraft.net/2012mock_draft


So according to them we are drafting Kendall Marshall and Tyshawn Taylor? Oh. Marshall can keep on slipping right by Orlando if the draft fell like this. Id rather take Perry Jones III, Moe Harkless or Royce White while grabbing Taylor in the 2nd.
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Re: 2012 Orland Magic NBA draft thread ...

Postby BaunceyChillups on Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:43 pm

Noonskadoodle wrote:
BaunceyChillups wrote:
Tyreke Evans is a ball-hogging knucklehead who doesn't know a thing about playing team basketball. Wroten has way better court vision and is pretty unselfish.


For having WAY BETTER court vision its weird he only averaged 3.7 assists & 3.8 turnovers per game while Tyreke averaged 3.9 assists & 3.6 turnovers coming out of college. Pretty similar.


Wroten's turnover prone and is very feast or famine at this point, he needs time to develop but those Rondo comparisons aren't for nothing. Tyreke had the same benefit of the doubt coming into the league and he turned out to be moron, I don't think Wroten is a headcase like him.

Neon1 wrote:
BaunceyChillups wrote:
Tyreke Evans is a ball-hogging knucklehead who doesn't know a thing about playing team basketball. Wroten has way better court vision and is pretty unselfish.


Completely false. Wroten has the 4th highest shot tendency of ALL the top 60-70 draftable prospects.

The ONLY guys to look for his own shots more per minute are PG Damian Lillard, SF Harrison Barnes and SG Kevin Murphy.

per36:
Damian Lillard - 19.84 (1)
Harrison Barnes - 19.66 (2)
Kevin Murphy - 19.40 (3)
Tony Wroten - 19.13 (4)
Evan Founier - 18.30 (5)
Orlando Johnson - 18.21 (6)

For clarity sake, somebody who is widely known as being shoot-first Austin Rivers has a 15.4. That should give you an idea of how much those guys look for (and take) thier own shot.


Sorry, I meant comparatively unselfish to current Tyreke.
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Re: 2012 Orland Magic NBA draft thread ...

Postby Noonskadoodle on Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:50 pm

If we could get PJ3 & Tyshawn Taylor I would be very happy. 2 players who could come in & contribute from day 1 & Tyshawn would push Duhon to the 3rd string PG IMO.

Now we just gotta figure out who will ge our starting PG haha. Maybe Raymond Felton? He is not a bad PnR player, just has to get in better shape.
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Re: 2012 Orland Magic NBA draft thread ...

Postby Neon1 on Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:00 pm

Noonskadoodle wrote:PJ3 sounds like he knows what he needs to work on to become better so that's a good sign.




If PJ3 was darker skinned he would resemble a young LeBron facially.
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Re: 2012 Orland Magic NBA draft thread ...

Postby Noonskadoodle on Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:11 pm

Neon1 wrote:
Noonskadoodle wrote:PJ3 sounds like he knows what he needs to work on to become better so that's a good sign.




If PJ3 was darker skinned he would resemble a young LeBron facially.


I can see it, but he def looks like Kid Cudi:

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Re: 2012 Orland Magic NBA draft thread ...

Postby Ahmadab on Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:26 pm

My top 5 :
Perry Jones
Moe Harkless
Quincy Miller
Austin Rivers
Marshall
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Re: 2012 Orland Magic NBA draft thread ...

Postby Blue_and_Whte on Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:14 pm

Ahmadab wrote:My top 5 :
Perry Jones
Moe Harkless
Quincy Miller
Austin Rivers
Marshall

Switch Marshall with miller and youve got my list
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