New Orleans willing to trade the 10th pick

[RookieStar]

Can't we trade Jrich instead for Ariza and the 10th pick?

BTW, why is every team stayong away from Okafor? contracts sucks? scrub? Or combination of the two?

[94_MagicFan]

Orl. #10 pic ariza
NO turkoglu Iguodala
Phil. Okafor #19 pic

[MasterGMer]

Can't we trade Jrich instead for Ariza and the 10th pick?

BTW, why is every team stayong away from Okafor? contracts sucks? scrub? Or combination of the two?

Oh boy~ nobody wants Okafor. we are not the only ones.

[Def Swami]

Orl. #10 pic ariza
NO turkoglu Iguodala
Phil. Okafor #19 pic

Philly is probably looking for more for Iggy.

[BassWhoopin]

Can't we trade Jrich instead for Ariza and the 10th pick?

BTW, why is every team stayong away from Okafor? contracts sucks? scrub? Or combination of the two?

You guys are missing the whole point of JJ, its not that he is valuable (which he is) its his contract, which is fully unguarnteed. Any team that gets him can move him again or release him and get an instant 6.5 million in cap space.

Why would the Hornets trade the 15 million left on Arizas deal for the 15 million left on Richardsons who is a declining player? Especialy when their whole goal of moving Ariza is to Gain cap space. The reason they want to move Ariza is because they want to build around Davis and Gordon, and they already have an Ariza clone with Al Faruq Aminu already on a rookie scale contract.

Multiple sources have said they are willing to move the pick if a team takes one of their contracts. They need cap space not only for Gordon but also for the 5 to 6 million that will be owed to Davis in his rookie season.

The Hornets are more interested in winning now, and having CAP SPACE is the quickest way to achieve that goal.

[MasterGMer]

Can't we trade Jrich instead for Ariza and the 10th pick?

BTW, why is every team stayong away from Okafor? contracts sucks? scrub? Or combination of the two?

You guys are missing the whole point of JJ, its not that he is valuable (which he is) its his contract, which is fully unguarnteed. Any team that gets him can move him again or release him and get an instant 6.5 million in cap space.

Why would the Hornets trade the 15 million left on Arizas deal for the 15 million left on Richardsons who is a declining player? Especialy when their whole goal of moving Ariza is to Gain cap space. The reason they want to move Ariza is because they want to build around Davis and Gordon, and they already have an Ariza clone with Al Faruq Aminu already on a rookie scale contract.

Multiple sources have said they are willing to move the pick if a team takes one of their contracts. They need cap space not only for Gordon but also for the 5 to 6 million that will be owed to Davis in his rookie season.

The Hornets are more interested in winning now, and having CAP SPACE is the quickest way to achieve that goal.

Hornets win now with Rockie Davis and youngster Gordan? I can't see that happen within 3 years.

[BassWhoopin]

What do we have that could get a 10th pick?

This seems illogical from NOH's perspective. Unless they get a big fish in return, they should keep their pick, get Damian Lillard and Anthony Davis. They can find other takers for Ariza and Okafor. Teams covet centers so it won't be hard to move Okafor. I'd do Ariza for JJ straight up if they wanted to.

Lillard + Davis is a good core to build around, and Gordon isn't getting a max so they should just match whatever he gets. I know they want to clear space for Gordon, but if I were them, I'd keep Okafor and Ariza if possible and run

Lillard
Gordon
Ariza
Davis
Okafor

They'll be fine and on the incline.

Lol whats Illogical about creating Cap Space? Ariza and the 10th pick is not going to net you a big fish in return when the whole point of moving the 10th pick and Ariza is to open up Cap Space, not take on Big contracts.

Also if the Hornets choose, they would have no problem moving JJ for a pick in the top 20, say to a team such as minnesota who needs a 2 guard.

[BassWhoopin]

Can't we trade Jrich instead for Ariza and the 10th pick?

BTW, why is every team stayong away from Okafor? contracts sucks? scrub? Or combination of the two?

You guys are missing the whole point of JJ, its not that he is valuable (which he is) its his contract, which is fully unguarnteed. Any team that gets him can move him again or release him and get an instant 6.5 million in cap space.

Why would the Hornets trade the 15 million left on Arizas deal for the 15 million left on Richardsons who is a declining player? Especialy when their whole goal of moving Ariza is to Gain cap space. The reason they want to move Ariza is because they want to build around Davis and Gordon, and they already have an Ariza clone with Al Faruq Aminu already on a rookie scale contract.

Multiple sources have said they are willing to move the pick if a team takes one of their contracts. They need cap space not only for Gordon but also for the 5 to 6 million that will be owed to Davis in his rookie season.

The Hornets are more interested in winning now, and having CAP SPACE is the quickest way to achieve that goal.

Hornets win now with Rockie Davis and youngster Gordan? I can't see that happen within 3 years.

Eric Gordon when healthy is one of the best young shooting guards in the league, he has proven that. Also Davis is the only player in this draft that will make a difference from day one. Larry Brown said that he can take your team to 50 wins (which is ridiculous i know but goes to show how high people are on this kid)

By winning now and having CAP SPACE, they can then be players in free agency. How does everyone not see this?

[94_MagicFan]

What do we have that could get a 10th pick?

This seems illogical from NOH's perspective. Unless they get a big fish in return, they should keep their pick, get Damian Lillard and Anthony Davis. They can find other takers for Ariza and Okafor. Teams covet centers so it won't be hard to move Okafor. I'd do Ariza for JJ straight up if they wanted to.

Lillard + Davis is a good core to build around, and Gordon isn't getting a max so they should just match whatever he gets. I know they want to clear space for Gordon, but if I were them, I'd keep Okafor and Ariza if possible and run

Lillard
Gordon
Ariza
Davis
Okafor

They'll be fine and on the incline.

Lol whats Illogical about creating Cap Space? Ariza and the 10th pick is not going to net you a big fish in return when the whole point of moving the 10th pick and Ariza is to open up Cap Space, not take on Big contracts.

Also if the Hornets choose, they would have no problem moving JJ for a pick in the top 20, say to a team such as minnesota who needs a 2 guard.

If we trade jj to No they can't trade him again till July is that correct

[BassWhoopin]

Also if they Choose they can use the Amnesty provision on Okafor, if they were to do that they would have a ridiculous amount of cap space. Before matching Gordon and signing Davis they would be in the Ballpark of 43 million in Cap Space. Do the math if you dont believe me.

Even if Gordon gets a deal that starts around 15 million, and Davis is at last years 1st picks deal at 5.1 mill. They would still have 20 million to build around a core of Davis and Gordon.

The Hornets have a new owner, and I know if I just bought a struggling franchise and had the opportunity to turn it around in one offseason, I would jump all over it. So why wont he?

[BassWhoopin]

What do we have that could get a 10th pick?

This seems illogical from NOH's perspective. Unless they get a big fish in return, they should keep their pick, get Damian Lillard and Anthony Davis. They can find other takers for Ariza and Okafor. Teams covet centers so it won't be hard to move Okafor. I'd do Ariza for JJ straight up if they wanted to.

Lillard + Davis is a good core to build around, and Gordon isn't getting a max so they should just match whatever he gets. I know they want to clear space for Gordon, but if I were them, I'd keep Okafor and Ariza if possible and run

Lillard
Gordon
Ariza
Davis
Okafor

They'll be fine and on the incline.

Lol whats Illogical about creating Cap Space? Ariza and the 10th pick is not going to net you a big fish in return when the whole point of moving the 10th pick and Ariza is to open up Cap Space, not take on Big contracts.

Also if the Hornets choose, they would have no problem moving JJ for a pick in the top 20, say to a team such as minnesota who needs a 2 guard.

If we trade jj to No they can't trade him again till July is that correct

Not sure but if it is true, we could just add another team thats willing to send them a pick for JJ, so basically all they are giving up for 10 is Arizas contract and possibly 5 to 10 picks back. Not bad considering they are trying to free up cap space.

[Skin]

The Magic are in an advantage right now because they can trade Redick who can be immediately waived by July 7th and that would free up the cap space that the Hornets are looking for. They are willing to pawn off the 10th pick in order to release themselves of one of those contracts. I say DO IT!

I don't think there's another team in the league that can offer a player who matches Ariza's salary and clear their cap for THIS summer. Expiring contracts for NEXT summer are plentiful, but Redick's waiver clause is unique and that puts us in the driver's seat for helping the Hornets accomplish their goal.

With the 10th and 19th picks of this year's draft we can replenish our youthful depth or trade both picks to move up higher in the draft. .... AND add Ariza... It's a no brainer to me.

While I would love Nash, I think Kidd would be more realistic FA signing under a 1 or 2 year deal. Then use the 10th pick on a PG like Damian Lillard or Kendall Marshall who would thrive learning behind Kidd.

[cvMagic]

If the Magic hire Bower as GM, the Hornets should just give us the 10th pick for free as a sympathetic gesture.

[BassWhoopin]

The Magic are in an advantage right now because they can trade Redick who can be immediately waived by July 7th and that would free up the cap space that the Hornets are looking for. They are willing to pawn off the 10th pick in order to release themselves of one of those contracts. I say DO IT!

I don't think there's another team in the league that can offer a player who matches Ariza's salary and clear their cap for THIS summer. Expiring contracts for NEXT summer are plentiful, but Redick's waiver clause is unique and that puts us in the driver's seat for helping the Hornets accomplish their goal.

With the 10th and 19th picks of this year's draft we can replenish our youthful depth or trade both picks to move up higher in the draft. .... AND add Ariza... It's a no brainer to me.

While I would love Nash, I think Kidd would be more realistic FA signing under a 1 or 2 year deal. Then use the 10th pick on a PG like Damian Lillard or Kendall Marshall who would thrive learning behind Kidd.

+1,000,000

[drsd]

Can't we trade Jrich instead for Ariza and the 10th pick?

If Orlando could keep Redick and keep the #19 to gain the #10, that would be an excellent move for the new Magic GM. But other teams would offer more.

Another way to look at this is that the Hornets need SFs. Yes Hedo's contract is crazy, but the NBA now has strict minimum salary levels. One deal the Magic could do is #10, Okafor, and Ariza for Anderson in a SnT and Turkoglu.

Orlando could draft Marshall at #10 and one of the many wings that will be available at #19 (let's call it Harkless). Orlando waives Duhon.

The Magic is:

Nelson/Marshall/Smith
Redick/Liggins/Richardson-1
Richardson-2/Ariza/Harkless
Davis/Clark/Harper
Howard/Okafor

This is not an NBA title team. But the dearth of wing depth could be part of another trade to shore up the Center depth. Something like Q-Rich for a Collins type. Orlando seems like a solid 4-6 seed with the above team.

BTW, why is every team stayong away from Okafor? contracts sucks? scrub? Or combination of the two?

Okafor has a lot of money and a lot of years on his deal. On most teams he is a backup. And paying a backup 10M+ a season is difficult to swallow.