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O-Sen: Heart and Hustle II on the way

Postby magic04life on Sat Jun 09, 2012 7:24 am

Good read from the O-Sen.

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/201 ... oint-guard

I miss Stan being Stan already.

Looks as if Stan will be out of the league for at least a season – unfortunately – but paid for 2012-13 by the Magic.

The Magic will name a replacement for Van Gundy after hiring a general manager.

What will the team look like under a new coach?

Depends on Dwight Howard.

If he signs a longterm deal – come on, who wants to bet their mortgage that he's gone? – you should see roughly the same offense.

Critics grumped at times about the Magic shooting too many 3-pointers under Van Gundy, but you can't knock their success. When they were on, playing off Howard, they were lethal.

They were a poor man's version of the San Antonio Spurs, who played off Tim Duncan and fired away. The difference is that the Spurs have had two stars (Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili) who could routinely create along with shooting 3s.

If Howard stays, the next coach more than likely sticks with an offense built on this inside-out philosophy, given the Magic's current personnel and their salary-cap restraints.

Now if Howard wants out – and that seems to be the prevailing conjecture – all bets are off. He still has the leverage in choosing his next destination, hurting the value on the Magic's return (barring a team willing to rent him or a change in his trade-demand list.)

Losing Howard to the Brooklyn Nets, for instance, would mean the Magic are in a rebuilding mode, with the offense totally retooled.

Without Howard here to draw double teams, maybe J.J. Redick (non-guaranteed contact) and Ryan Anderson (restricted free agent) – their top 3-point threats – will be traded and cheaper players brought in to begin a salary-cap slash.

Jameer Nelson could also come off the books if he doesn't execute a player option by next Friday.

Deals for expiring contracts could be the goal.

If this re-fresh button is pushed, the new coach will have to patiently understand the direction and work with an evolving roster.

DocRivers did it as a rookie coach after GM John Gabriel took dramatic steps to remake the Magic in the summer of 1999 by trading Horace Grant, Nick Anderson and PennyHardaway (to eventually clear cap space for TracyMcGrady and Grant Hill.)

Rivers gave birth to a feel-good team of cast-offs called "Heart & Hustle" in 1999-2000.

Could Heart & Hustle II be on its way?

The new coach better be flexible. It was no surprise then that Brian Shaw – Indiana Pacers assistant and a former Magic point guard -- emphasized to me last month that he can coach any style.

He worked under Phil Jackson in L.A for seven years, but he didn't want to be labeled as a guy "who only knows the Lakers' triangle (offense). I've played and coached in a lot of different systems."


In my opinion, there will never be another Heart 'n' Hustle. They were the best.
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Re: O-Sen: Heart and Hustle II on the way

Postby AdamTheGreek on Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:09 am

That was a throwaway piece.
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Re: O-Sen: Heart and Hustle II on the way

Postby OrlandO on Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:16 am

Brian Schmitz is running out of material... Magic better hire a gm/coach soon or he may just start doing articles on why we should bring Stuff off the bench next season...
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Re: O-Sen: Heart and Hustle II on the way

Postby Nyce_1 on Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:07 am

The only thing I took from that article was Shaw's comments about his coaching scheme. If true, glad to know he's not locked into one scheme.
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Re: O-Sen: Heart and Hustle II on the way

Postby glennathan on Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:03 pm

I remember talking to Bo Outlaw at the All-Star weekend this year and I said to him "Tell Otis to bring back heart and hustle" his response was a classic in him saying "there will never ever be another heart and hustle.. But they can d**n sure try"

That team was a lot of fun to watch and I still watch clips from time to time. Since RDV does not have much time left Heart and Hustle would not be the way to go. After we win at least one title and if RDV no longer owns the team then I say bring it back.
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Re: O-Sen: Heart and Hustle II on the way

Postby Skin on Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:19 pm

I feel stupider for reading that ****.
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Re: O-Sen: Heart and Hustle II on the way

Postby Orlando Dawg on Sat Jun 09, 2012 5:24 pm

There can dam sure be another heart and hustle ... especially if we sign Ryan Anderson like he was Pat Garrity.
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Re: O-Sen: Heart and Hustle II on the way

Postby magic111 on Sat Jun 09, 2012 5:39 pm

I personally can give two **** about a heart and hustle team. I just want a CHAMPIONSHIP team. Period!!!
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Re: O-Sen: Heart and Hustle II on the way

Postby Bensational on Sat Jun 09, 2012 7:02 pm

screw heart and hustle teams. give me a team that can win. the franchise should do its damn job and put the best winning squad it can on the court, not try and fill out a roster with role players that would fill its fan base with low expectations.
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Re: O-Sen: Heart and Hustle II on the way

Postby DJRajX on Sat Jun 09, 2012 7:07 pm

I want a championship caliber team... I don't want to relive those 1996-2007 years anymore
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Re: O-Sen: Heart and Hustle II on the way

Postby mhectorgato on Sat Jun 09, 2012 8:54 pm

I want a team that is competitive and am not embarrassed about as I was this year.
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Re: O-Sen: Heart and Hustle II on the way

Postby Reverse_Angle on Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:52 pm

people here routinely speculate better than that.
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Re: O-Sen: Heart and Hustle II on the way

Postby ahunterknight on Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:39 am

Heart and hustle are for sucky 8th seed teams no thanks
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Re: O-Sen: Heart and Hustle II on the way

Postby craig01 on Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:47 pm

mhectorgato wrote:I want a team that is competitive and am not embarrassed about as I was this year.


And it was embarrassing.
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Re: O-Sen: Heart and Hustle II on the way

Postby ChosenSavior on Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:59 pm

DJRajX wrote:I want a championship caliber team... I don't want to relive those 1996-2007 years anymore
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