Official Rob Hennigan Magic Transaction History(7/20/13)
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Just wanted to bump this thread and show some appreciation to our GM.
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GameOver25 wrote:Just wanted to bump this thread and show some appreciation to our GM.
Hmmm.... You can send him an email, he usually responds!
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So far any rumors involving the Magic seem to be coming from other teams. I wonder if this is the FO trying to keep a low media profile after last years circus, or if Henny just likes to keep things close to the chest. Neither would surprise me really. As things begin to heat up it'll be interesting to see how new management handles the deadline.
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Nice article about Hennigan
http://www.telegram.com/article/2013012 ... source=rss
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An August headline on the sports website Bleacher Report asked: “Is Orlando Magic’s Rob Hennigan the NBA’s Most Inept GM?” The accompanying story blasted Hennigan for trading star center Dwight Howard to the Lakers that month and not getting enough in return.
But the criticism of the Worcester native and St. John’s High graduate has disappeared like, well, Magic. In fact, a headline last week on Bleacher Report read: “Orlando Magic Are Officially Winners of Dwight Howard Trade.”
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It will be interesting to see if the Magic jump into the Rudy Gay deal to snag Lowry. The Magic has all kinds off assets to through into this. The TPE, Harrington, and Redick all jump out. Plus with Lowry coming in, the Magic could ship out Nelson to Memphis.
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It's starting to look like Hennigan's inability to get unprotected picks from the Lakers in the Howard deal could matter more than we ever imagined.
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silent1900 wrote:It's starting to look like Hennigan's inability to get unprotected picks from the Lakers in the Howard deal could matter more than we ever imagined.
Orlando has a conditional first round pick from the L.A. Lakers in 2017. That is far off that one cannot speculate one where the Lakers will be then.
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silent1900 wrote:It's starting to look like Hennigan's inability to get unprotected picks from the Lakers in the Howard deal could matter more than we ever imagined.
Plus, Henny restricted his cap space in taking back Harrington's albatross of a contract. That is two blunders. So, if he did swell in Harkless and Vucevic, but did bad with Al and Picks. Then, Henny is about 50/50. Which is still better than Otis!!!
But, thus far, I am not impressed with Henny. Magic could have forced Lakers to find a top 10 pick for Dwight and also not taken back Harrington.
Actually, I would have preferred to keep Earl Clark and Duhon and let Denver ship Harrington to the Lakers. Then, cut Duhon for the $1.5 mil cap hit and develop Clark to help out the defense here.
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The Milwaukee Bucks have acquired J.J. Redick from the Orlando Magic, according to a source.
The Bucks had also been pursuing a trade for Josh Smith, but are out of those talks.
The Bucks will send Doron Lamb, Tobias Harris and Beno Udrih to the Magic.
Orlando will send Gustavo Ayon and Ish Smith, along with Redick, to Milwaukee.
In a related but separate trade, Hakim Warrick going to the Magic from the Charlotte Bobcats for Josh McRoberts.
So - now how do we feel about Henny?
The Bucks had also been pursuing a trade for Josh Smith, but are out of those talks.
The Bucks will send Doron Lamb, Tobias Harris and Beno Udrih to the Magic.
Orlando will send Gustavo Ayon and Ish Smith, along with Redick, to Milwaukee.
In a related but separate trade, Hakim Warrick going to the Magic from the Charlotte Bobcats for Josh McRoberts.
So - now how do we feel about Henny?
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MostValuableGM wrote:The Milwaukee Bucks have acquired J.J. Redick from the Orlando Magic, according to a source.
The Bucks had also been pursuing a trade for Josh Smith, but are out of those talks.
The Bucks will send Doron Lamb, Tobias Harris and Beno Udrih to the Magic.
Orlando will send Gustavo Ayon and Ish Smith, along with Redick, to Milwaukee.
In a related but separate trade, Hakim Warrick going to the Magic from the Charlotte Bobcats for Josh McRoberts.
So - now how do we feel about Henny?
I'll update the OP later tonight.
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MostValuableGM wrote:So - now how do we feel about Henny?
Every move he makes is Golden. He's the biggest asset we got in the Dwight Howard fiasco.
Think about this...
The Bucks, Hawks and Magic discuss a 3 way deal that has serious legs up until the very last minute well it all collapsed. BUT!....which teams got screwed over the most by not completing this deal? The Bucks... for not trading Ellis are kicking themselves... but the Hawks are just total losers for not trading Smith! Screwing our division rival Hawks has to be a hidden silver lining win for the Magic because it prevented the Hawks from improving their team! WOO HOO!!!! The Hawks get stuck with their star FA player who isn't returning to them and they won't get anything in return for him now. He's an UFA and his Bird Rights are meaningless because he's not a max player. Who cares if the Hawks can offer him more than any other team? They won't be his highest bidder, nor should they. No team with the cap space to afford Smith will need to do a S&T for him. There's no need because the Hawks hold no leverage. The only leverage they have is if they plan to give him a max contract. If they do, then LOL. How savvy is our GM? One of the best in the business baby! LOVE IT!
The Hawks had no alternative plan to trade Smith if this 3 way didn't go through, but our GM did and we still got something for Redick. Bravo Henny! Bravo!
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Also,
Steve Kyler @stevekylerNBA
Hearing Orlando used Ryan Anderson TPE to obtain Warrick which would have expired before Magic could use it... Gain TPE from McRoberts
Brilliant!
Steve Kyler @stevekylerNBA
Hearing Orlando used Ryan Anderson TPE to obtain Warrick which would have expired before Magic could use it... Gain TPE from McRoberts
Brilliant!
Jett Howard, Franz Wagner, Paolo Banchero, Jonathan Isaac, Wendell Carter Jr
Anthony Black, Cole Anthony, Jalen Suggs, Joe Ingles, Chuma Okeke, Mo Wagner, Goga Bitadze LESSSGOOO!!!
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Is this relevant? From Woj:
@WojYahooNBA: Many league executives impressed w/ young players that front office of Rob Hennigan, Scott Perry and Matt Lloyd have assembled in Orlando.
Rob Hennigan is smarter than you.
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ESPN Trade Grades by Kevin Pelton:
Milwaukee: C+
What are the Bucks doing? That's been the question everyone around the league has spent all week trying to figure out. Milwaukee was as active as anyone, and reportedly in discussions to trade for Josh Smith as part of a three-way trade until just before the deadline. Those talks broke down, but the Bucks still made the biggest splash of any team by acquiring Redick.
Despite Redick nominally being a rental -- he's in the last year of a contract -- it's somewhat unclear how much this trade will help Milwaukee the rest of the way. That will depend on how interim head coach Jim Boylan manages his revamped backcourt. The Bucks don't have a true backup for Brandon Jennings at the point after dealing Udrih, which presumably means Redick and Monta Ellis will share ballhandling duties as part of a three-guard rotation. If that's a win, it's not by much. The clearer upgrade comes when Redick takes Ellis' minutes, giving Milwaukee a more efficient option at shooting guard. Our Bradford Doolittle estimated that change adding about a win to the Bucks' bottom line........
Orlando: B
From the Magic's perspective this decision was much more straightforward. Orlando knew Redick would likely leave as an unrestricted free agent and wanted to get value for him before then. The Magic reportedly had multiple offers of late first-round picks and decided instead to go with Harris, the No. 19 pick in 2011 and a prospect with more upside than anyone Orlando could have gotten with one of those late first-rounders.
Harris was a favorite of John Hollinger's Draft Rater in 2011, and has played well enough in limited action in Milwaukee that his top SCHOENE comparables include Gerald Wallace, Tim Thomas and Rashard Lewis (as well as Julian Wright, to temper that excitement). There are two concerns with Harris. The first is that he's still so young (20) that he might not really get it until after the conclusion of his rookie contract in 2014-15. Secondly, his skill set overlaps with the Magic's other project small forward, Maurice Harkless. Harris appeared as one of Harkless' most similar players coming out of college. There may not be room for a pair of wings who lack 3-point range, and it's not clear whether Harris can handle regular action at power forward.
A more minor quibble is that it's unfortunate Orlando didn't have time to route Udrih to a contender he might have helped down the stretch. That way the Magic could have gotten a little more long-term value out of this deal.
Milwaukee: C+
What are the Bucks doing? That's been the question everyone around the league has spent all week trying to figure out. Milwaukee was as active as anyone, and reportedly in discussions to trade for Josh Smith as part of a three-way trade until just before the deadline. Those talks broke down, but the Bucks still made the biggest splash of any team by acquiring Redick.
Despite Redick nominally being a rental -- he's in the last year of a contract -- it's somewhat unclear how much this trade will help Milwaukee the rest of the way. That will depend on how interim head coach Jim Boylan manages his revamped backcourt. The Bucks don't have a true backup for Brandon Jennings at the point after dealing Udrih, which presumably means Redick and Monta Ellis will share ballhandling duties as part of a three-guard rotation. If that's a win, it's not by much. The clearer upgrade comes when Redick takes Ellis' minutes, giving Milwaukee a more efficient option at shooting guard. Our Bradford Doolittle estimated that change adding about a win to the Bucks' bottom line........
Orlando: B
From the Magic's perspective this decision was much more straightforward. Orlando knew Redick would likely leave as an unrestricted free agent and wanted to get value for him before then. The Magic reportedly had multiple offers of late first-round picks and decided instead to go with Harris, the No. 19 pick in 2011 and a prospect with more upside than anyone Orlando could have gotten with one of those late first-rounders.
Harris was a favorite of John Hollinger's Draft Rater in 2011, and has played well enough in limited action in Milwaukee that his top SCHOENE comparables include Gerald Wallace, Tim Thomas and Rashard Lewis (as well as Julian Wright, to temper that excitement). There are two concerns with Harris. The first is that he's still so young (20) that he might not really get it until after the conclusion of his rookie contract in 2014-15. Secondly, his skill set overlaps with the Magic's other project small forward, Maurice Harkless. Harris appeared as one of Harkless' most similar players coming out of college. There may not be room for a pair of wings who lack 3-point range, and it's not clear whether Harris can handle regular action at power forward.
A more minor quibble is that it's unfortunate Orlando didn't have time to route Udrih to a contender he might have helped down the stretch. That way the Magic could have gotten a little more long-term value out of this deal.
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Steve Kyler @stevekylerNBA
Hearing Orlando used Ryan Anderson TPE to obtain Warrick which would have expired before Magic could use it... Gain TPE from McRoberts
Brilliant!
I was confused about this trade until I read this . I had no idea what the point was until now
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JBSouthpaw wrote:ESPN Trade Grades by Kevin Pelton:
Milwaukee: C+
What are the Bucks doing? That's been the question everyone around the league has spent all week trying to figure out. Milwaukee was as active as anyone, and reportedly in discussions to trade for Josh Smith as part of a three-way trade until just before the deadline. Those talks broke down, but the Bucks still made the biggest splash of any team by acquiring Redick.
Despite Redick nominally being a rental -- he's in the last year of a contract -- it's somewhat unclear how much this trade will help Milwaukee the rest of the way. That will depend on how interim head coach Jim Boylan manages his revamped backcourt. The Bucks don't have a true backup for Brandon Jennings at the point after dealing Udrih, which presumably means Redick and Monta Ellis will share ballhandling duties as part of a three-guard rotation. If that's a win, it's not by much. The clearer upgrade comes when Redick takes Ellis' minutes, giving Milwaukee a more efficient option at shooting guard. Our Bradford Doolittle estimated that change adding about a win to the Bucks' bottom line........
Orlando: B
From the Magic's perspective this decision was much more straightforward. Orlando knew Redick would likely leave as an unrestricted free agent and wanted to get value for him before then. The Magic reportedly had multiple offers of late first-round picks and decided instead to go with Harris, the No. 19 pick in 2011 and a prospect with more upside than anyone Orlando could have gotten with one of those late first-rounders.
Harris was a favorite of John Hollinger's Draft Rater in 2011, and has played well enough in limited action in Milwaukee that his top SCHOENE comparables include Gerald Wallace, Tim Thomas and Rashard Lewis (as well as Julian Wright, to temper that excitement). There are two concerns with Harris. The first is that he's still so young (20) that he might not really get it until after the conclusion of his rookie contract in 2014-15. Secondly, his skill set overlaps with the Magic's other project small forward, Maurice Harkless. Harris appeared as one of Harkless' most similar players coming out of college. There may not be room for a pair of wings who lack 3-point range, and it's not clear whether Harris can handle regular action at power forward.
A more minor quibble is that it's unfortunate Orlando didn't have time to route Udrih to a contender he might have helped down the stretch. That way the Magic could have gotten a little more long-term value out of this deal.
thats my only problem
with hark and harris similiar skill set
we gonna end up with one dimentional SF spot?
other then that I like the trade
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BadMofoPimp wrote:silent1900 wrote:It's starting to look like Hennigan's inability to get unprotected picks from the Lakers in the Howard deal could matter more than we ever imagined.
Plus, Henny restricted his cap space in taking back Harrington's albatross of a contract. That is two blunders. So, if he did swell in Harkless and Vucevic, but did bad with Al and Picks. Then, Henny is about 50/50. Which is still better than Otis!!!
But, thus far, I am not impressed with Henny. Magic could have forced Lakers to find a top 10 pick for Dwight and also not taken back Harrington.
Actually, I would have preferred to keep Earl Clark and Duhon and let Denver ship Harrington to the Lakers. Then, cut Duhon for the $1.5 mil cap hit and develop Clark to help out the defense here.
Holy crap just stop it. Harrington had to be in the deal for salary reasons, and he is NOT IN ANY WAY RESTRICTING OUR CAPSPACE Jesus man go look on hoopsworld. Insurance is paying 80% of Harringtons deal, the magic likely knew this before agreeing to take him, knowing they would barely be paying him anything this year. We do not even need capspace, yet we will have some this summer! the magic got 5 draft picks, a starting 2, and 2 good prospects out of the trade and got rid of most of their unwanted players. The Magic could not force anyone to do anything because dumbass dwight held us hostage or his idiot agent was going to blackball us for life
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