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Post#781 Re: Official Build-a-Team 1.0: Trade/Discussi
Thu Aug 23, 2012 5:33 pm by SOUL

I only did top 10. I had you about the 12-15 range. I don't trust Carmelo as the number one option. It's a competitive playoff team, but I don't think it's a top 10. The bench is really good as are your big men, pretty much 2-3 deep everywhere, but it's just the fact that I don't trust Melo as a top player. I could be wrong though!
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Post#782 Re: Official Build-a-Team 1.0: Trade/Discussi
Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:07 pm by LBPTarHeel27

It's not "Denver syndrome" it is "Rondo syndrome"...

As in people still don't see a guy who can almost average a triple double in the playoffs as a superstar. Jason Kidd puts up similar numbers years ago and is considered one of the greatest PG's of all time.

The fact that Rondo isn't viewed as the #1 PG in the league blows my mind. It's simply because they guy doesn't put up huge scoring numbers.

Rondo is EASILY a top 10 player in the NBA - not just in terms of fantasy or B-a-T.
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Post#783 Re: Official Build-a-Team 1.0: Trade/Discussi
Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:14 pm by Lin Your Face

SOUL wrote:I only did top 10. I had you about the 12-15 range. I don't trust Carmelo as the number one option. It's a competitive playoff team, but I don't think it's a top 10. The bench is really good as are your big men, pretty much 2-3 deep everywhere, but it's just the fact that I don't trust Melo as a top player. I could be wrong though!


No problem, I was kind of kidding, but I thought there was a chance you happened to use my rankings to look at the rosters instead of the team display thread. I definitely disagree with a lot of your opinions and I feel that I have a top team, but I appreciate that you actually took the time to do a ranking.

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Post#784 Re: Official Build-a-Team 1.0: Trade/Discussi
Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:28 pm by Lin Your Face

LBPTarHeel27 wrote:It's not "Denver syndrome" it is "Rondo syndrome"...

As in people still don't see a guy who can almost average a triple double in the playoffs as a superstar. Jason Kidd puts up similar numbers years ago and is considered one of the greatest PG's of all time.

The fact that Rondo isn't viewed as the #1 PG in the league blows my mind. It's simply because they guy doesn't put up huge scoring numbers.

Rondo is EASILY a top 10 player in the NBA - not just in terms of fantasy or B-a-T.


Well I definitely feel that your team is not similar to Denver. I personally have Rondo as the 10th best player in the league, I feel that Pau is definitely in the top 20, and I'd take EG over anyone on Denver except Iggy.

I also don't feel Rondo's the best PG in the league. I'd definitely take Chris Paul and Derrick Rose above him.
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Post#785 Re: Official Build-a-Team 1.0: Trade/Discussi
Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:01 am by AdamTheGreek

Not sure why my Sixers are getting disrespected. Would've figured I was a lock for top 10. I call foul play. ;)
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Post#786 Re: Official Build-a-Team 1.0: Trade/Discussi
Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:44 pm by LBPTarHeel27

Lin Your Face wrote:
LBPTarHeel27 wrote:It's not "Denver syndrome" it is "Rondo syndrome"...

As in people still don't see a guy who can almost average a triple double in the playoffs as a superstar. Jason Kidd puts up similar numbers years ago and is considered one of the greatest PG's of all time.

The fact that Rondo isn't viewed as the #1 PG in the league blows my mind. It's simply because they guy doesn't put up huge scoring numbers.

Rondo is EASILY a top 10 player in the NBA - not just in terms of fantasy or B-a-T.


Well I definitely feel that your team is not similar to Denver. I personally have Rondo as the 10th best player in the league, I feel that Pau is definitely in the top 20, and I'd take EG over anyone on Denver except Iggy.

I also don't feel Rondo's the best PG in the league. I'd definitely take Chris Paul and Derrick Rose above him.


I'd take a 100% healthy Rose over him...but we are a long time away from even seeing if that is possible.

By taking Paul, you are basically saying you value scoring more than passing. Rondo is a better defender & passer than Paul - granted, not by much - but he is. I'll take Rondo over Paul...Paul is definitely #2 though.
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Post#787 Re: Official Build-a-Team 1.0: Trade/Discussi
Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:50 pm by LBPTarHeel27

My Top 10 Players for Next Season...

1. LeBron
2. Durant
3. Howard
4. Wade
5. Rondo
6. Kobe
7. Love
8. Paul
9. Dirk
10. Williams
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Post#788 Re: Official Build-a-Team 1.0: Trade/Discussi
Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:37 pm by Zmill

LBPTarHeel27 wrote:My Top 10 Players for Next Season...

1. LeBron
2. Durant
3. Howard
4. Wade
5. Rondo
6. Kobe
7. Love
8. Paul
9. Dirk
10. Williams


Pretty spot on list.. I think the gap between Wade, Rondo, and Kobe is all pretty minimal though. Those guys could be swapped around
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Post#789 Re: Official Build-a-Team 1.0: Trade/Discussi
Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:26 pm by LBPTarHeel27

So when is a final decision being made? If we are averaging together the results from all three judgements - I believe I would take the crown... finishing 2nd, 3rd, & 4th in each ranking.
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Post#790 Re: Official Build-a-Team 1.0: Trade/Discussi
Sat Aug 25, 2012 4:25 pm by WillyJakkz

LBPTarHeel27 wrote:So when is a final decision being made? If we are averaging together the results from all three judgements - I believe I would take the crown... finishing 2nd, 3rd, & 4th in each ranking.


Not for nothing but I got 2 1st place votes from the Gen Board, Warriors got 1 from Gen Board and 1 from me.

Just sayin' 8-)
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Post#791 Re: Official Build-a-Team 1.0: Trade/Discussi
Sat Aug 25, 2012 7:41 pm by Context

WillyJakkz wrote:
LBPTarHeel27 wrote:So when is a final decision being made? If we are averaging together the results from all three judgements - I believe I would take the crown... finishing 2nd, 3rd, & 4th in each ranking.


Not for nothing but I got 2 1st place votes from the Gen Board, Warriors got 1 from Gen Board and 1 from me.

Just sayin' 8-)

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Post#792 Re: Official Build-a-Team 1.0: Trade/Discussi
Sat Aug 25, 2012 9:14 pm by LBPTarHeel27

WillyJakkz wrote:
LBPTarHeel27 wrote:So when is a final decision being made? If we are averaging together the results from all three judgements - I believe I would take the crown... finishing 2nd, 3rd, & 4th in each ranking.


Not for nothing but I got 2 1st place votes from the Gen Board, Warriors got 1 from Gen Board and 1 from me.

Just sayin' 8-)

There was something on the general board?
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Post#793 Re: Official Build-a-Team 1.0: Trade/Discussi
Sat Aug 25, 2012 11:04 pm by FFBlitzace

I went looking for it after reading that but couldn't find anything. What exactly was on the gen board?
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Post#794 Re: Official Build-a-Team 1.0: Trade/Discussi
Sat Aug 25, 2012 11:57 pm by WillyJakkz

^^ I posted this Monday I believe, asking for judging help cause it woulda been brutally disappointing to have had the BaT end like the way it was and is heading:

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1202311

Eastern Magic, Lin, and the Celtics team (among others) got some love, too.
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Post#795 Re: Official Build-a-Team 1.0: Trade/Discussi
Mon Aug 27, 2012 2:09 pm by LBPTarHeel27

So are we just leaving this up to the imagination?
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Post#796 Re: Official Build-a-Team 1.0: Trade/Discussi
Mon Aug 27, 2012 2:52 pm by SOUL

Well we have 4 judging votes and then the thread that Willy made.. so if we combine them we can come to a consensus.
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Post#797 Re: Official Build-a-Team 1.0: Trade/Discussi
Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:45 pm by Lin Your Face

SOUL wrote:Well we have 4 judging votes and then the thread that Willy made.. so if we combine them we can come to a consensus.


I don't really think that there is a good way to decide a winner unless we can find a judge or have more peer rankings submitted. The replies on Wily's general board thread seemed to not have much thought put into them. I guess we could just compile the average scores of the rankings we have, but that would be difficult since you and Wily only did a top 10 and Wily did a separate win now and win future rating.

Maybe we could wait and see if anyone from the Knicks board will do it after their BAT. Also, there was one poster that responded to Wily's inquiry there for judges and said maybe, so we could ask him again.
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Post#798 Re: Official Build-a-Team 1.0: Trade/Discussi
Mon Aug 27, 2012 11:35 pm by SOUL

I still dont get why us judging is a bad thing. I said it was like that from the start and nobody had a problem until recently.

We're the most involved, their should be no "bias" towards voting. I just say we count ours, add it up by points = 10 points for 1st place, 9 for 2nd, 8 for 3rd, etc.
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Post#799 Re: Official Build-a-Team 1.0: Trade/Discussi
Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:21 am by WillyJakkz

May as well do something and get this over w/ and as far as the thread I made on the Gen Board, who cares if they didn't do a whole write up, I posed a question and guys were cool enough to respond and the fact is we got more replies from there, from peeps who don't give a good u know what about this build a team, yet the ones who supposedly did have gone ghost, long before the pimp thread.

Another thing that was stated was there would be 3 judges, Skin, eyriq and someone else and while eyriq does have a horse in this race, he hasn't even responded either not to mention no word from anyone else.
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Post#800 Re: Official Build-a-Team 1.0: Trade/Discussi
Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:44 am by LBPTarHeel27

We just allowed for too much time between the end of the draft and the final decision. I like how the Knicks do the judging...if you participate, you have to judge. Otherwise, you can't win.
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