Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLV "Re-Building" Edition)

[arsenal6106]

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"@WojYahooNBA: Trade call is done with the league office. Dwight Howard has joined the Los Angeles Lakers."

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STRAP-IN!!!







Previous Speculation threads during the 2011/12 Season:

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viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1141312 (locked) (100 8/15 pages) II [DJRajX]
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viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1143155 (locked) (90 12/15 pages) VI [DJRajX]
viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1143609 (locked) (100 2/15 pages) VII [DJRajX]
viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1144146 (locked) (99 14/15 pages) VIII [DJRajX]
viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1144968 (locked) (101 1/15 pages) IX [eyriq]
viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1149175 (locked) (100 4/15 pages) X [DJRajX]
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viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1168104 (locked) (100 7/15 pages) XVIII [DJRajX]
viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1168314 (locked) (101 5/15 pages) XIX [eyriq]
viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1168515 (locked) (100 4/15 pages) XX [DJRajX]
viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1168658 (locked) (100 12/15 pages) XXI [DJRajX]
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viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1180000 (locked) (100 3/15 pages) XXIII [DJRajX]
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viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1186695 (locked) (99 8/15 pages) XXVI [arsenal6106]
viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1188446 (locked) (99 14/15 pages) XXVII [arsenal6106]
viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1189939 (locked) (86 1/15 pages) XXVIII [arsenal6106]
viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1190680 (locked) (99 4/15 pages) XXIX [MagicTownBaller]
viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1191579 (locked) (100 8/15 pages) XXX [arsenal6106]
viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1192123 (locked) (122 8/15 pages) XXXI [MagicTownBaller]
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viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1194651 (locked) (100 6/15 pages) XXXVI [arsenal6106]
viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1195031 (locked) (99 13/15 pages) XXXVII [arsenal6106]
viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1195467 (locked) (96 2/15 pages) XXXVIII [DJRajX]
viewtopic.php?t=1195899 (locked) (99 11/15 pages) XXXIX [arsenal6106]
viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1196599 (locked) (87 3/15 pages) XL [arsenal6106]
viewtopic.php?t=1197140 (locked) (96 12/15 pages) XLI [arsenal6106]
viewtopic.php?t=1198226 (locked) (91 10/15 pages) XLII [MagicTownBaller]
viewtopic.php?t=1198980 (locked) (101 1/15 pages) XLIII [arsenal6106/MagicTownBaller]
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SUMMER 2012 SPECULATION THREAD

-Let's discuss every news & rumor (from news articles, interviews, facebook/twitter, billboards, magazines, TV/Internet/Radio, etc.) that is occurring around the league (even if it is directly or indirectly affecting the Magic).

[Ex: Draft, Free Agency, Trades, Training Camp, Player Offseason news, Coaching news, Front Office/Management news, etc.]




LET'S GO MAGIC! DISCUSS!

[CourtsideTV]

first

[jernigan]

In Henny I Trust

[OrlandO]

Hopefully there is less 8itching in this thread... The trade can't be undone, get over it.

[Idunkonyou2]

Hopefully there is less 8itching in this thread... The trade can't be undone, get over it.

The trade sucked and no real fan will ever get over it until it shows results.

[Optimus_Steel]

I am strapped in for the tank! I am looking forward to seeing the youngins play and develop.

[Ahmadab]

HOW COULD YOU BE MOOOOOEE HARKLESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[Rick Rolled]

Hopefully there is less 8itching in this thread... The trade can't be undone, get over it.

The trade sucked and no real fan will ever get over it until it shows results.

I'm sick of this "real fan" BS.

You can be a real fan and hate the trade, or you can be a real fan and accept the trade.

Either line of thinking doesn't disqualify you as a real fan.

* I'm not picking on you specifically Idunkonyou2

[AddiFB]

I'm over it. Been with this team for now 22 years. I'm gonna enjoy watching basketball and see this team rebuild from scratch. Why let something like this have a negative affect on your life, when you can just sit back and enjoy it? Not like we have any say in what happens or gets done.

We had hit a wall with the team we had, even with that guy we traded away. Now lets just cheer the guys we have, some of which are promising young guys, and move on. Life is easier that way.

[MAGICian619]

In Henny I Trust

This x100

[Def Swami]

The first rebuilding year isn't so bad. It's actually a fun time. Your team wins a game, you're excited and happy for them. Your team loses a game, awesome, better chances in the lottery. Going to be a stress-free season for me. I hope we lose every game, but see promise in our young guys.

Sit back, guys, hang in there. I joined this board in the good times. We're going to have some good times in the dark ones too. Support the squad and watch a lot of college basketball.

[MAGICian619]

Everyone smile!

NO

MORE

DUHON

[chrpri84]

Anybody got info on Preseason schedule? Gonna try to make a game.

[CourtsideTV]

its ont heir website

[KingRobb02]

I had a lot of fun listening to this. Basically 40 minute Orlando bash.
link

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[magicman123]

Just received this in the mail from the magic organization

Dear Orlando, All Of Central Florida and Orlando Magic Supporters Wherever You May Be Tonight;

As you now know, our former hero, who grew up with this franchise, is no longer a Orlando Magic.

This was announced with a several year, narcissistic, self-promotional build-up culminating with demanding trades of his "Indecision" unlike anything ever "witnessed" in the history of sports and probably the history of entertainment.

Clearly, this is bitterly disappointing to all of us.

The good news is that the ownership team and the rest of the hard-working, loyal, and driven staff over here at your hometown Magic have not betrayed you nor NEVER will betray you.

There is so much more to tell you about the events of the recent past and our more than exciting future. Over the next several days and weeks, we will be communicating much of that to you.

You simply don't deserve this kind of cowardly betrayal.

You have given so much and deserve so much more.

In the meantime, I want to make one statement to you tonight:

"I PERSONALLY GUARANTEE THAT THE ORLANDO MAGIC WILL WIN AN NBA CHAMPIONSHIP BEFORE THE SELF-TITLED FORMER ‘SUPERMAN" WINS ONE"

You can take it to the bank.

If you thought we were motivated before tonight to bring the hardware to Orlando, I can tell you that this shameful display of selfishness and betrayal by one of our very own has shifted our "motivation" to previously unknown and previously never experienced levels.

Some people think they should go to heaven but NOT have to die to get there.

Sorry, but that's simply not how it works.

This shocking act of disloyalty from our home grown "Prospect" sends the exact opposite lesson of what we would want our children to learn. And "who" we would want them to grow-up to become.

But the good news is that this heartless and callous action can only serve as the antidote to the so-called "curse" on Orlando, Florida

The self-declared former "Superman" will be taking the "curse" with him out West. And until he does "right" by Orlando and Florida, Dwight Coward (and the town where he plays) will unfortunately own this dreaded spell and bad karma.

Just watch.

Sleep well, Orlando.

Tomorrow is a new and much brighter day....

I PROMISE you that our energy, focus, capital, knowledge and experience will be directed at one thing and one thing only:

DELIVERING YOU the championship you have long deserved and is long overdue....

Richard DeVos
Majority Owner
Orlando Magic

[Def Swami]

Everyone smile!

NO

MORE

DUHON

[Idunkonyou2]

I'll root for our guys, but until I see concrete evidence that our FO isn't just as dumb as they have always been, I will continue to talk bad about them.

Also please stop with the we are using the Thunder/Spurs model. If that was the case then we better have more than just a good FO. We will need an amazing amount of luck to go with it.

[NickAnderson]

Everyone smile!

NO

MORE

DUHON

agreed!

[Def Swami]

Here is a breakdown of each of those picks, specifically explaining the conditions that apply to each one:

2014 first-round pick from the Denver Nuggets
The Nuggets have two first-round picks in 2014: their own pick and a pick from the New York Knicks. The Magic will receive the less favorable of the two picks.

One future first-round pick from the Philadelphia 76ers
This pick is tied to a previous trade between the Sixers and the Miami Heat, and the Magic cannot receive the pick from the Sixers from the Howard deal until the Sixers satisfy their prior commitment to the Heat.

Here’s the CliffsNotes version:
• If the Sixers make the playoffs in 2012-13, the Magic will receive a protected Sixers first-round pick in 2015.
• If the Sixers don’t make the playoffs until 2013-14, the Magic will receive a protected Sixers first-round pick in 2016.
• Even if the Sixers still haven’t made the playoffs by 2014-15, the Magic will receive a protected Sixers first-round pick in 2017.

Now, remember that the pick the Magic are getting will be protected. Here are the terms of that protection:
• 2015 draft: The Magic will receive the pick if it falls from 15th overall to 30th overall. If the pick falls from first overall to 14th overall, Philly will keep the pick and Orlando instead will receive a protected first-round pick in 2016.

• 2016 draft: The Magic will receive the pick if it falls from 15th overall to 30th overall. If the pick falls from first overall to 14th overall, Philly will keep the pick and Orlando instead will receive a protected first-round pick in 2017.

• 2017 draft: The Magic will receive the pick if it falls from 12th overall to 30th overall. If the pick falls from first overall to 11th overall, Philly will keep the pick and Orlando instead will receive a protected first-round pick in 2018.

• 2018 draft: The Magic will keep the pick if it falls from ninth overall to 30th overall. If the pick falls from first overall to eighth overall, Philly will keep the pick and Orlando instead will receive a second-round pick in 2018 and a second-round pick in 2019. (Why would the Magic forfeit a first-round pick? Because the new CBA prohibits teams from trading a first-round pick seven years out.)

One future first-round pick from the Lakers
This pick is tied to the Lakers’ sign-and-trade deal with the Phoenix Suns for Steve Nash, and the Magic cannot receive the Lakers’ first-round pick until the Lakers satisfy their obligation to the Suns.

That said, the only way the Magic don’t get a protected pick from the Lakers for the 2017 draft is if the Lakers are terrible in 2012-13 and fail to make the playoffs. That’s not going to happen.

But if the Lakers don’t make the playoffs until 2013-14, the Magic would get a Lakers’ protected first-round pick in 2018. If by some miracle the Lakers don’t make the playoffs in any of the next three seasons, the Magic would not get a first-round pick from the Lakers and instead would get the Lakers’ second-round pick in 2017 and the Lakers’ second-round pick in 2018 because of the CBA rule that prevents a team from trading a first-round pick seven years out.

Here are the protection terms:
• 2017 draft: The Magic will receive the pick if it falls from sixth overall to 30th overall. If the pick falls from first overall to fifth overall, L.A. will keep the pick and Orlando instead will receive a protected first-round pick in 2018.

• 2018 draft: The Magic will receive the pick if it falls from sixth overall to 30th overall. If the pick falls from first overall to fifth overall, L.A. will keep the pick and Orlando instead will receive a first-round pick in 2019.

• 2019 draft: Unprotected. The Magic will receive the pick no matter what it falls.

2013 second-round pick from the Nuggets
This pick originally belonged to the Golden State Warriors, so the picks place in the second round will be determined by how the Warriors finish during the 2012-13 season.

2015 second-round pick from the Lakers
The Lakers will keep the pick if it falls from 31st overall to 40th overall. If that occurs, the pick disappears and the Magic won’t receive a second-round pick from the Lakers.

http://ht.ly/cU7va

The protections are gawd awful