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Official Draft Thread: Prospects Watch

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Re: Official Draft Thread: Prospects Watch 

Post#1241 » by Noonskadoodle » Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:57 pm

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Skin wrote:I may be in the minority, but I'd rather have Jabari Parker than Andrew Wiggins.

...plus Parker just seems destined to be a Magic in my mind for some reason. I think it's a natural fit with his personality and the types we've had over the years.

Can somebody give me an idea how big is the gap betweem Wiggins and Parker. In all mockdrafts they are 1-2 with Wiggins in pole position. Is he really so much better than Parker? Who are the other players to watch in the 2014 draftclass.


















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Re: Official Draft Thread: Prospects Watch 

Post#1242 » by Redphilly » Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:54 pm

Noonskadoodle wrote:
Redphilly wrote:
Skin wrote:I may be in the minority, but I'd rather have Jabari Parker than Andrew Wiggins.

...plus Parker just seems destined to be a Magic in my mind for some reason. I think it's a natural fit with his personality and the types we've had over the years.

Can somebody give me an idea how big is the gap betweem Wiggins and Parker. In all mockdrafts they are 1-2 with Wiggins in pole position. Is he really so much better than Parker? Who are the other players to watch in the 2014 draftclass.


















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Re: Official Draft Thread: Prospects Watch 

Post#1243 » by RookieStar » Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:34 pm

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blue and white wrote:just thinkin if we draft bennett this year and somehow get wiggins we could almost have the Canadian national team with nicholson already here


As much as I like the idea of being team canada, I'd rather not take bennett :-?


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Re: Official Draft Thread: Prospects Watch 

Post#1244 » by Tayswagzzz » Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:39 pm

First time watching Wiggins and Parker even play. Heard a lot about em but never seen them play. Dear God, both are amazing to watch. Now I REALLY want to tank another season. Lol
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Re: Official Draft Thread: Prospects Watch 

Post#1245 » by Noonskadoodle » Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:45 pm

2 Different ESPN Insider Articles:


Magic should get Smart
February, 22, 2013
Feb 22
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By Tom Carpenter | ESPN.com

As we noted earlier today, the Orlando Magic have set themselves up for what should be a loss-filled stretch run. They traded their No. 2 scorer, J.J. Redick, to the Milwaukee Bucks Thursday, Hedo Turkoglu is suspended, Glen Davis is likely out for the rest of the season, Jameer Nelson is injured, and much of their remaining roster is younger than a veteran college squad.

The intention, of course, is to lose as much as possible so they can have the best possible shot at the No. 1 pick in this year's draft and then take advantage of cap space to lure some free agents. Time will tell how that plan goes, but if they do land the top pick, ESPN NBA Insider Chad Ford thinks they should target Oklahoma State guard Marcus Smart:

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Orlando Magic draft needs

"Smart isn't putting up huge numbers, but he has come up huge for Oklahoma State in some of its biggest games and appears to have the X factor that NBA GMs look for in a No. 1 pick. Smart has great size for the position, has a NBA body, has a power game going to the basket, and is a clutch leader who is fearless with the game on the line. He also is a versatile defender who can guard multiple positions. Jameer Nelson has the starting job locked down right now, but Smart would be a long-term upgrade. ... The Magic need a star to start building around. To me, Smart is oozing with star potential. He's still pretty raw. His jump shot is shaky and he can be turnover-prone, but he's a charismatic leader who works hard on both ends of the floor and usually rises to the occasion in big games. Putting him on the floor with the Magic's collection of young players would immediately make everyone better."

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Orlando Magic draft needs

The Dwight Howard saga came to a sad, messy conclusion last summer when the Orlando Magic shipped Howard off to the Los Angeles Lakers for a collection of young players headlined by Nikola Vucevic and Moe Harkless, as well as veteran Arron Afflalo.

The move signaled that a massive rebuilding effort was under way in Orlando. With no young stars to build around, the Magic's collection of middling veterans and middling young players was the perfect recipe for blah.

The team ranks 26th in offensive efficiency this season and is tied for 25th in defensive efficiency. The Magic are in the middle of the pack in Assist Ratio, Effective Field Goal Percentage and Rebounding Rate.

But there is some good news. The team ranks No. 1 in the NBA in Defensive Efficiency Rate thanks in large part to the excellent work on the boards by Vucevic. He's averaging 11.5 defensive rebounds a game and while he's just a middling defender, his work on the boards is crucial. The Magic are also getting strong play from rookie Andrew Nicholson and see long-term potential in Harkless.

At the Thursday trade deadline, the Magic continued the franchise teardown shipping off veteran sharpshooter J.J. Redick for two young players -- Tobias Harris and Doron Lamb. Harris gives the Magic another combo forward who many scouts around the league believe can blossom. Lamb is a rookie sharpshooter who has struggled a bit his rookie season.

Overall, the Magic have a number of nice young pieces. But what they really need is a star. I'm not sure that that star is in this draft, but there are some intriguing options.

Here's a look at their best options if the get the No. 1 pick.

Good fits: Marcus Smart, Nerlens Noel, Ben McLemore, Victor Oladipo

Smart isn't putting up huge numbers, but he has come up huge for Oklahoma State in some of its biggest games and appears to have the X factor that NBA GMs look for in a No. 1 pick. Smart has great size for the position, has a NBA body, has a power game going to the basket, and is a clutch leader who is fearless with the game on the line. He also is a versatile defender who can guard multiple positions. Jameer Nelson has the starting job locked down right now, but Smart would be a long-term upgrade.

Noel would be an excellent fit next to Vucevic. His shot-blocking ability and athleticism would be a strong combination next to Vucevic's more plodding game. Besides, the Magic have a history of developing poised young big men. First Shaq, then Dwight Howard, then Noel? Our only fear is that when he reached his prime, he'd push his way onto the Lakers.
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Victor OladipoAndy Lyons/Getty ImagesVictor Oladipo's elite skills would fit well with a burgeoning Magic defense.

McLemore would give them a pure scorer in the backcourt. While Afflalo has the position locked down, McLemore is an upgrade who would give them shooting and athleticism in the backcourt.

Oladipo isn't quite the offensive player McLemore is, but he's the best defensive player in the country, an elite athlete and an emerging scorer on the offensive end. He's this year's Michael Kidd-Gilchrist. No one plays harder in college basketball.

Questionable fits: Anthony Bennett, Shabazz Muhammad, Alex Len

The team is already filled with combo forwards like Harkless, Harris and Nicholson, making Bennett pretty redundant. While I could argue that Bennett has more upside than any of them, with so many holes, I'm not sure they'd go Bennett's direction.

Muhammad falls into a similar situation. With Harkless and Harris on the roster, Muhammad would be forced to play some 2, and I'm just not sure he can guard backcourt players in the NBA.

Len has a lot of upside and is a more polished big man than Noel, but his skill set seems to be more redundant next to Vucevic in the frontcourt.

Best fit: Smart

The Magic need a star to start building around. To me, Smart is oozing with star potential. He's still pretty raw. His jump shot is shaky and he can be turnover-prone, but he's a charismatic leader who works hard on both ends of the floor and usually rises to the occasion in big games. Putting him on the floor with the Magic's collection of young players would immediately make everyone better.
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Re: Official Draft Thread: Prospects Watch 

Post#1246 » by Noonskadoodle » Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:05 pm

Not sure why episode 1 audio got cut off, but....












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Re: Official Draft Thread: Prospects Watch 

Post#1247 » by Skin » Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:05 am

Yeah Noons, Go!

I think me and you are the only ones who want Burke more than Smart. Let's get that bandwagon going!
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Re: Official Draft Thread: Prospects Watch 

Post#1248 » by IGotDaMagicInMe » Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:06 am

How about zeke marshall as a possible 2nd round pick?
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Re: Official Draft Thread: Prospects Watch 

Post#1249 » by Noonskadoodle » Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:09 am

Skin wrote:Yeah Noons, Go!

I think me and you are the only ones who want Burke more than Smart. Let's get that bandwagon going!


hahaha I have been trying bud.

Really would like to see us trade down a few spots & target him while picking up another asset.
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Re: Official Draft Thread: Prospects Watch 

Post#1250 » by Skin » Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:34 am

Noonskadoodle wrote:
Skin wrote:Yeah Noons, Go!

I think me and you are the only ones who want Burke more than Smart. Let's get that bandwagon going!


hahaha I have been trying bud.

Really would like to see us trade down a few spots & target him while picking up another asset.

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Re: Official Draft Thread: Prospects Watch 

Post#1251 » by Noonskadoodle » Sat Feb 23, 2013 6:52 pm

Marcus Smart....2pm ESPN2

Kentavious Caldwell-Pope....2pm CBS

Ben McLemore....4pm ESPN3

Zo Brown & CJ Leslie....4pm ESPN

Ray McCallum....4pm ESPN2

Archie Goodwin, Willie Cauley-Stein & Alex Poythress....9pm ESPN



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Re: Official Draft Thread: Prospects Watch 

Post#1252 » by Noonskadoodle » Sat Feb 23, 2013 7:10 pm

Smart 3 fouls in less than 3 mins of play.

2 offensive out of control & one over the back.....Wow no point in watching the rest of this half.
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Re: Official Draft Thread: Prospects Watch 

Post#1253 » by OrlandO » Sat Feb 23, 2013 7:11 pm

Marcus not so Smart today.. 3 fouls in first 2 and a half minutes
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Re: Official Draft Thread: Prospects Watch 

Post#1254 » by Noonskadoodle » Sat Feb 23, 2013 8:38 pm

Smart putting his stamp on the game in the 2nd half so far.....although he got lucky not to pick up his 4th foul early with a charge call.
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Post#1255 » by londoncollin » Sat Feb 23, 2013 8:46 pm

I think I'm sold on Smart.
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Re: Official Draft Thread: Prospects Watch 

Post#1256 » by magicman123 » Sat Feb 23, 2013 8:52 pm

londoncollin wrote:I think I'm sold on Smart.

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Post#1257 » by SEBAS-07 » Sat Feb 23, 2013 9:02 pm

Is a bigger Kyle Lowry a good comparison for Smart?
Smart / Micic / D. Wright
Wiggins / Exum / J. Adams
Parker / K. Anderson / Mcdermott
Randle / Vonleh / Stokes
Embiid / Nurkic/ Tavares
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Post#1258 » by SEBAS-07 » Sat Feb 23, 2013 9:02 pm

Is a bigger Kyle Lowry a good comparison for Smart?
Smart / Micic / D. Wright
Wiggins / Exum / J. Adams
Parker / K. Anderson / Mcdermott
Randle / Vonleh / Stokes
Embiid / Nurkic/ Tavares
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Re: Official Draft Thread: Prospects Watch 

Post#1259 » by blue and white » Sat Feb 23, 2013 9:05 pm

SEBAS-07 wrote:Is a bigger Kyle Lowry a good comparison for Smart?

thats who i see when i watch him. alot have said billups and harden but he looks alot like lowry to me, mostly because they have similar body types and are hard workers who do the dirty work
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Re: Official Draft Thread: Prospects Watch 

Post#1260 » by backasswards » Sat Feb 23, 2013 9:08 pm

I can't imagine Smart not being our pick. He's going to be a special player.

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