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JJ is putting up elite numbers, can he be an all star?

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JJ is putting up elite numbers, can he be an all star? 

Post#1 » by nurseryc » Sat Nov 17, 2012 12:26 pm

He was one of the top player in college and is putting up big numbers this season, can JJ be an all star this year?
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Post#2 » by AdamTheGreek » Sat Nov 17, 2012 2:16 pm

So you were the one who asked Matt Guokas that odd All-Star question a few games ago.


Look. He's putting up 15.8 ppg, 5.5 apg on 48.9 FG% in under 33 minutes of work. That's fantastic for him, but not anywhere near the All-Star discussion. He needs to get the fans on his side to vote a ton for there to be a chance. That won't happen because outside of Orlando, the majority of the country still hates Redick from his Duke days. Once Harkless or Hedo start at SF, Redick can go back to the bench and focus on being a 6th Man candidate again.
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Post#3 » by G-Heel » Sat Nov 17, 2012 3:43 pm

16/5.5 is "elite numbers"...? add to the fact that we're not a good team, JJ got absolutely no chance.
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Post#4 » by trebone » Sat Nov 17, 2012 3:50 pm

I think if he maintains that he may have a very outside shot at 6th man of the year but not an allstar, if he can get his scoring to 20 per and 5-6 assists per he will have a real shot from the coaches but that seems unlikely to happen
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Re: JJ is putting up elite numbers, can he be an all star? 

Post#5 » by OrlandO » Sat Nov 17, 2012 4:43 pm

After the fans vote the starters, coaches pick 2 backcourt players and 2 more players regardless of position. I think Redick needs to score a few more points a game to be considered and that may not happen once we get all our guys back and the younger players start contributing more. All the guards are pooled together, so we're looking at guys like Wade, Irving, Holiday, Walker, DWill, Lowry, Jennings, Rondo in the east. The only way I see him getting voted in by the coaches as a sub with those numbers is if we win games, like stay around .500. You look at a guy like Felton... his numbers are good, but not great, however, he could have an outside chance because he's had such a huge hand in the Knicks winning this year (that would have to continue though).
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Post#6 » by GameOver25 » Sat Nov 17, 2012 5:03 pm

There's 0% chance JJ will be an All-Star and I'm a complete fan of his.
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Post#7 » by Def Swami » Sat Nov 17, 2012 5:12 pm

Nah, but he's doing a hell of a job boosting his trade value.
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Post#8 » by magicman123 » Sat Nov 17, 2012 5:13 pm

All star game is a stretch, but you can argue hes in the top 2-3 shooting guards from the east right now
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Post#9 » by arsenal6106 » Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:07 pm

AdamTheGreek wrote:So you were the one who asked Matt Guokas that odd All-Star question a few games ago.




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Post#10 » by Skin » Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:08 pm

Nah, no way would he ever be an All-star. But I'm thankful to have him and I hope we resign him to an affordable deal. If he wants a deal like Jameer, then I'm fine with him leaving. Really would prefer to keep him though.
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Post#11 » by drsd » Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:12 pm

Jonathan Clay is around the 15th best PER SG. This rates him at around the 8th best Eastern SG. Which is gosh-darn good! But not all-star good.

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Post#12 » by trebone » Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:26 pm

I would like to see him at Allstar weekend shooting in the 3pt contest
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Post#13 » by OrlandO » Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:45 pm

trebone wrote:I would like to see him at Allstar weekend shooting in the 3pt contest

Slim chance... he didn't even get selected when we had the allstar game in Orlando... he was mildly campaigning for it on Twitter too.
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Post#14 » by magicman123 » Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:50 pm

drsd wrote:Jonathan Clay is around the 15th best PER SG. This rates him at around the 8th best Eastern SG. Which is gosh-darn good! But not all-star good.

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you can knock off at least 4 of those players in the East by default, Morrow, Brooks, etc...add in everything (assist, pts, reb, fg%, ft%, consistency, etc) it still puts JJ easily in the top 3
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Post#15 » by gp123 » Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:15 pm

He might never win the popularity contest, but given that coaches are scouting against him more now that Howard isn't in the cards, He might eventually get some love as part of the coach picked "C team".

One of the best off the ball players in the NBA and is becoming more of a combo guard on offense now. Coaches have the hots for players that are in the right spots and do all the technical stuff well, so while his chances aren't great, I wouldn't say its impossible for him to win a spot.
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Post#16 » by MagicFan32 » Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:30 am

he's having a great year, but he may not even be on the magic at the all star break
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Post#17 » by Reverse_Angle » Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:48 am

he could be a lol-star.
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Post#18 » by OrlandO » Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:22 am

MagicFan32 wrote:he's having a great year, but he may not even be on the magic at the all star break

Blasphemy! JJ will retire in Orlando and have his jersey sent to the rafters.
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Post#19 » by magicman123 » Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:39 am

Only SG in the league averaging 5ast, let alone 15pts and 5ast
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Post#20 » by OrlandO » Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:46 am

magicman123 wrote:Only SG in the league averaging 15pts and 5ast, and the only one averaging 5 assist

Too bad point and shooting guards are grouped together when picking. The East has way more allstar PGs than SGs. This thread actually made me realize how valuable JJ is going to be... the SG position is not what it used to be. Do you think he can keep up 5 assists now that Jameer is back... what about when Turk returns?
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