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Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX"Reg. Season"Ed.)

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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX"Reg. Season"Ed.) 

Post#1181 » by NickAnderson » Thu Jan 17, 2013 6:54 pm

Bledsoe overrated
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Post#1182 » by BadMofoPimp » Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:21 pm

Cigamodnalro wrote:
recko321 wrote:i think managment needs to focus on how the F do we get bledsoe here. dangle our 1st round pick this year plus whatever else. he's gonna be a stud for sure.

Not worth it.


He would be worth a late first round pick and maybe McBob right before the trade deadline just to see how good he could be. That would be low risk. Then, if he doesn't pan out, no big loss.
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Post#1183 » by Leopold_Stoich » Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:35 pm

People give Bledsoe such a high ceiling, I'm sorry I just don't see it. He seems like a score first point guard and right now I don't think that's something we particularly need. We need someone who knows how to facilitate an offense, we already have people who barely pass the ball once given to them, i.e. AA and BBD.
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Post#1184 » by flying_mollusk » Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:37 pm

Dont think the Clippers would trade him for just that. Apparently they want to keep him, and not screw up chemistry.

Also, they are in no rush to trade him if they had to. He is signed through this season and next season, and on the cheap. Theyll probably wait to see what Chris Paul does in the offseason.
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Post#1185 » by ZeusIsLoose » Thu Jan 17, 2013 8:08 pm

recko321 wrote:i think managment needs to focus on how the F do we get bledsoe here. dangle our 1st round pick this year plus whatever else. he's gonna be a stud for sure.

our first rounder............................... :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
wait, hang on............... :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX"Reg. Season"Ed.) 

Post#1186 » by tiderulz » Thu Jan 17, 2013 8:41 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:
Cigamodnalro wrote:
recko321 wrote:i think managment needs to focus on how the F do we get bledsoe here. dangle our 1st round pick this year plus whatever else. he's gonna be a stud for sure.

Not worth it.


He would be worth a late first round pick and maybe McBob right before the trade deadline just to see how good he could be. That would be low risk. Then, if he doesn't pan out, no big loss.


Agree.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX"Reg. Season"Ed.) 

Post#1187 » by Def Swami » Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:04 pm

Orlando Has Options: It should come as no huge surprise that the Orlando Magic have plenty of trade options.
The Magic have two fairly significant ending contracts in J.J. Redick ($6.19 million) and Josh McRoberts ($3.13 million). They have a stable full of young players showing serious promise – E’Twaun Moore, Nikola Vucevic, Andrew Nicholson and Maurice Harkless. Add in some quality veterans like Jameer Nelson, Arron Afflalo and Glen Davis and the Magic have the roster parts some teams covet.
Factor in the $17.81 million Traded Player Exception the Magic netted in the Dwight Howard-Laker trade and a drawer full of draft picks and the Magic seem to be one of the prettiest girls at the dance.
Sources close to the situation said recently that Orlando has been involved in virtually every trade scenario out there and that Assistant GM Scott Perry has been aggressive in looking at everything that is possible.
The Magic did have some discussions with the Memphis Grizzlies regarding Rudy Gay, but ultimately bowed out due to Gay’s massive contract (two more years and $37.1 million) and a belief that he isn’t necessarily a good fit in Orlando.
The Magic have made it clear that they would entertain offers for almost anyone on the roster, which is exactly what a 14-win team should do that’s lacking a proven, go-to player.
Magic sources continue to say that Orlando is going to aggressively explore all of their options, but that exploring options is no indication that they will trigger a deal or tear the team apart just to make a change or cash out a contract.
The Magic do place considerable value on their promising young players, so don’t expect any of them to be moved unless the return to the Magic is game changing. The Magic also place a tremendous amount of value on future cap space, so don’t expect them to trade for huge bloated contracts either.
It is safe to say that the Magic are active and aggressive enough to believe they will be a player around the trade deadline. What the Magic ultimately do will be 100 percent about what they get back and it seems everyone is on the table for the right price.

Read more at http://www.hoopsworld.com/nba-am-bad-mo ... geOZHBw.99
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX"Reg. Season"Ed.) 

Post#1188 » by ChosenSavior » Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:11 pm

^^ Thanks for posting that article VGO. It's reading stuff like that article that has me excited and intrigued about the direction Hennigan/Perry are going to take this franchise.
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Post#1189 » by Bensational » Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:37 pm

i honestly don't see many 'game changers' out there that might be available for the Magic to wrangle.

when you factor in that they'll most likely want:
- someone 25 years old or younger
- a reasonable contract (either rookie contract, or clearly one that isn't as overpaid as Gay)
- someone who probably isn't established as a star just yet (hence, why the other team will be willing to give them up)
- elite in some regard - most likely scoring efficiently

it really thins the pool of eligible candidates down significantly. on paper, Afflalo is exactly the kind of steal they're looking for, but he's not shown the capacity to step it up and become a true star.
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Post#1190 » by Driguez » Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:38 pm

VGOSWAMI wrote:
Orlando Has Options: It should come as no huge surprise that the Orlando Magic have plenty of trade options.
The Magic have two fairly significant ending contracts in J.J. Redick ($6.19 million) and Josh McRoberts ($3.13 million). They have a stable full of young players showing serious promise – E’Twaun Moore, Nikola Vucevic, Andrew Nicholson and Maurice Harkless. Add in some quality veterans like Jameer Nelson, Arron Afflalo and Glen Davis and the Magic have the roster parts some teams covet.
Factor in the $17.81 million Traded Player Exception the Magic netted in the Dwight Howard-Laker trade and a drawer full of draft picks and the Magic seem to be one of the prettiest girls at the dance.
Sources close to the situation said recently that Orlando has been involved in virtually every trade scenario out there and that Assistant GM Scott Perry has been aggressive in looking at everything that is possible.
The Magic did have some discussions with the Memphis Grizzlies regarding Rudy Gay, but ultimately bowed out due to Gay’s massive contract (two more years and $37.1 million) and a belief that he isn’t necessarily a good fit in Orlando.
The Magic have made it clear that they would entertain offers for almost anyone on the roster, which is exactly what a 14-win team should do that’s lacking a proven, go-to player.
Magic sources continue to say that Orlando is going to aggressively explore all of their options, but that exploring options is no indication that they will trigger a deal or tear the team apart just to make a change or cash out a contract.
The Magic do place considerable value on their promising young players, so don’t expect any of them to be moved unless the return to the Magic is game changing. The Magic also place a tremendous amount of value on future cap space, so don’t expect them to trade for huge bloated contracts either.
It is safe to say that the Magic are active and aggressive enough to believe they will be a player around the trade deadline. What the Magic ultimately do will be 100 percent about what they get back and it seems everyone is on the table for the right price.

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Post#1191 » by Bensational » Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:53 pm

just having a quick squiz through league leaders in PPS (points per shot), and some of the surprise names who might find themselves in the mix for trade talks:

#4 - Carl Landry
#18 - Jared Dudley
#18 - Kenneth Faried
#22 - Darren Collison
#24 - Gordon Hayward
#24 - JJ Hickson
#26 - Marshon Brooks
#30 - OJ Mayo
#35 - JJ Redick (highest placed Orlando Magic player)
#41 - Steve Novak
#60 - Greg Monroe
#68 - Aaron Afflalo (2nd for Magic)
#68 - Chandler Parsons
#71 - DMC
#71 - Damian Lillard
#105 - Alexey Shved
#105 - Brandon Jennings
#105 - Jameer Nelson
#117 - Brad Beal
#120 - Rudy Gay
#125 - Dion Waiters

(Just as a reference for those, top 3 are Tyson Chandler, Dwight, Durant, Harden #5, LBJ #8)

the only guy that really ticks all the boxes there is Monroe. the others don't score enough to demonstrate they can be a central piece in an offense.
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Post#1192 » by BrettC03 » Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:11 am

I could see Bledsoe eventually becoming a Westbrook-type player with more court time. His defense is what really intrigues me. And unless our 1st rounder this year is top-3, then Bledsoe is MUCH better than anything we could get with it. I'd gladly take Shabazz or Noel over Bledsoe, though.
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Post#1193 » by thelead » Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:17 am

Driguez wrote:
VGOSWAMI wrote:
Orlando Has Options: It should come as no huge surprise that the Orlando Magic have plenty of trade options.
The Magic have two fairly significant ending contracts in J.J. Redick ($6.19 million) and Josh McRoberts ($3.13 million). They have a stable full of young players showing serious promise – E’Twaun Moore, Nikola Vucevic, Andrew Nicholson and Maurice Harkless. Add in some quality veterans like Jameer Nelson, Arron Afflalo and Glen Davis and the Magic have the roster parts some teams covet.
Factor in the $17.81 million Traded Player Exception the Magic netted in the Dwight Howard-Laker trade and a drawer full of draft picks and the Magic seem to be one of the prettiest girls at the dance.
Sources close to the situation said recently that Orlando has been involved in virtually every trade scenario out there and that Assistant GM Scott Perry has been aggressive in looking at everything that is possible.
The Magic did have some discussions with the Memphis Grizzlies regarding Rudy Gay, but ultimately bowed out due to Gay’s massive contract (two more years and $37.1 million) and a belief that he isn’t necessarily a good fit in Orlando.
The Magic have made it clear that they would entertain offers for almost anyone on the roster, which is exactly what a 14-win team should do that’s lacking a proven, go-to player.
Magic sources continue to say that Orlando is going to aggressively explore all of their options, but that exploring options is no indication that they will trigger a deal or tear the team apart just to make a change or cash out a contract.
The Magic do place considerable value on their promising young players, so don’t expect any of them to be moved unless the return to the Magic is game changing. The Magic also place a tremendous amount of value on future cap space, so don’t expect them to trade for huge bloated contracts either.
It is safe to say that the Magic are active and aggressive enough to believe they will be a player around the trade deadline. What the Magic ultimately do will be 100 percent about what they get back and it seems everyone is on the table for the right price.

Read more at http://www.hoopsworld.com/nba-am-bad-mo ... geOZHBw.99



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Post#1194 » by glennathan » Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:29 am

For those who did not see he announcement about the all-star selection here it is

ESPN NBA - East All-Star starters: LeBron James, Carmelo Anthony, Kevin Garnett, Dwyane Wade, Rajon Rondo

ESPN NBA - West All-Star starters: Kobe Bryant, Chris Paul, Kevin Durant, Dwight Howard, Blake Griffin
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Post#1195 » by BadMofoPimp » Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:31 am

Sources close to the situation said recently that Orlando has been involved in virtually every trade scenario out there and that Assistant GM Scott Perry has been aggressive in looking at everything that is possible. HoopsWorld


NBA trade rumors: Magic "aggressive" in pursuit of possible trades, according to report

The Orlando Magic are not merely active in trade talks as the 2013 NBA trading deadline of February 21st draws closer; no, Orlando is "aggressive" and "involved in virtually every trade scenario out there," reports Steve Kyler of HOOPSWORLD. Rob Hennigan, the Magic's general manager, has tasked top assistant Scott Perry to "[look] at everything that is possible" on the trade market."

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Post#1196 » by MagicFan41 » Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:32 am

Anyone else think Chandler Parsons would fit in well with our rebuild? SF position which we are weak at. A Hedo replacement (meaning a guy who can do a lot of things well, put up Hedo-esque 12-5-5 type numbers on a nightly basis but on an extremely cheap contract). From Otown, a hard-working humble type guy. Fits well with what we are looking for imo. Houston needs a PF too, maybe one of our vets?
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Post#1197 » by Def Swami » Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:47 am

MagicFan41 wrote:Anyone else think Chandler Parsons would fit in well with our rebuild? SF position which we are weak at. A Hedo replacement (meaning a guy who can do a lot of things well, put up Hedo-esque 12-5-5 type numbers on a nightly basis but on an extremely cheap contract). From Otown, a hard-working humble type guy. Fits well with what we are looking for imo. Houston needs a PF too, maybe one of our vets?

Yes, but I doubt Houston gives him up for anything we'd offer. I think they really like their Lin/Harden/Parsons trio going forward. He's been exceptionally good for a 2nd year player drafted in the 2nd round. And it's tough to find 6'9" guys that can handle the ball on the perimeter.
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Post#1198 » by BrettC03 » Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:49 am

Bensational wrote:just having a quick squiz through league leaders in PPS (points per shot), and some of the surprise names who might find themselves in the mix for trade talks:

#4 - Carl Landry
#18 - Jared Dudley
#18 - Kenneth Faried
#22 - Darren Collison
#24 - Gordon Hayward
#24 - JJ Hickson
#26 - Marshon Brooks
#30 - OJ Mayo
#35 - JJ Redick (highest placed Orlando Magic player)
#41 - Steve Novak
#60 - Greg Monroe
#68 - Aaron Afflalo (2nd for Magic)
#68 - Chandler Parsons
#71 - DMC
#71 - Damian Lillard
#105 - Alexey Shved
#105 - Brandon Jennings
#105 - Jameer Nelson
#117 - Brad Beal
#120 - Rudy Gay
#125 - Dion Waiters

(Just as a reference for those, top 3 are Tyson Chandler, Dwight, Durant, Harden #5, LBJ #8)

the only guy that really ticks all the boxes there is Monroe. the others don't score enough to demonstrate they can be a central piece in an offense.

Of those listed, I think the only possible 'stars' would be Monroe, Cousins, and Lillard. Possibly Beal or Waiters. And Gay could be considered at that level now.
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Post#1199 » by Noonskadoodle » Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:54 am

Bensational wrote:just having a quick squiz through league leaders in PPS (points per shot), and some of the surprise names who might find themselves in the mix for trade talks:

#4 - Carl Landry
#18 - Jared Dudley
#18 - Kenneth Faried
#22 - Darren Collison
#24 - Gordon Hayward
#24 - JJ Hickson
#26 - Marshon Brooks
#30 - OJ Mayo
#35 - JJ Redick (highest placed Orlando Magic player)
#41 - Steve Novak
#60 - Greg Monroe
#68 - Aaron Afflalo (2nd for Magic)
#68 - Chandler Parsons
#71 - DMC
#71 - Damian Lillard
#105 - Alexey Shved
#105 - Brandon Jennings
#105 - Jameer Nelson
#117 - Brad Beal
#120 - Rudy Gay
#125 - Dion Waiters

(Just as a reference for those, top 3 are Tyson Chandler, Dwight, Durant, Harden #5, LBJ #8)

the only guy that really ticks all the boxes there is Monroe. the others don't score enough to demonstrate they can be a central piece in an offense.


Out of that list building towards the future I would target Parsons & Shved.
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Post#1200 » by msmoore66 » Fri Jan 18, 2013 2:21 am

VGOSWAMI wrote:
MagicFan41 wrote:Anyone else think Chandler Parsons would fit in well with our rebuild? SF position which we are weak at. A Hedo replacement (meaning a guy who can do a lot of things well, put up Hedo-esque 12-5-5 type numbers on a nightly basis but on an extremely cheap contract). From Otown, a hard-working humble type guy. Fits well with what we are looking for imo. Houston needs a PF too, maybe one of our vets?

Yes, but I doubt Houston gives him up for anything we'd offer. I think they really like their Lin/Harden/Parsons trio going forward. He's been exceptionally good for a 2nd year player drafted in the 2nd round. And it's tough to find 6'9" guys that can handle the ball on the perimeter.



Yeah, I think he would fit great on this team, but it would cost us a fair amount of assets that I don't think we would want to give up. How long is his contract too?

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