Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX"Reg. Season"Ed.)

Viper1500 · Post #1246 » by **Viper1500** » Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:45 pm

rcklsscognition wrote:We need to do whatever possible to be terrible next year.

Trading away Redick and Big Baby for youth and picks would be a good starting point.

Noonskadoodle · Post #1247 » by **Noonskadoodle** » Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:00 pm

Viper1500 wrote:
rcklsscognition wrote:We need to do whatever possible to be terrible next year.

Trading away Redick and Big Baby for youth and picks would be a good starting point.

Hopefully the lottery is favorable to us this year. If we have a shot at McLemore/Goodwin/Bazz then we can try & get back into the lottery with a vet & target a PG like Burke.

Burke (Playmaker)
McLemore/Bazz/Goodwin (Scorer)
Harkless & DQJ (Defender/Slasher)
Nicholson (Mid-Range/Post Scorer)
Vuc (Rebounding/Defensive Presence)

See how this young team does/grows & we probably end up with a high pick in the loaded 14 draft.

Post #1248 » by **Def Swami** » Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:30 pm

trebone wrote:Looks like Gortat wants Stan pretty bad per wiretap, imagine the fights between Stan and Beasley!

Post #1249 » by **Def Swami** » Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:42 pm

Marcin Gortat ‏@MGortat
SVG !!!!

thelead · Post #1250 » by **thelead** » Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:10 am

BadMofoPimp wrote:
thelead wrote:If he can trade Hedo, Harrington AND either BBD or Afflalo for expirings this trade deadline (to have that type of capspace) he will win exec of the year.

I doubt he is shooting for this year.

I bet he is shooting for next years trade deadline when Hedo and Harrington are expirings that can also be cut to save cap space while BBD would have a year and half on his contract while and Afflalo's 3 years won't look as bad.

I think Henny is shooting for mad cap space in 2014, not 2013.

I agree but they were talking about 2013 free agents so I was just making a point on how difficult it would be to acquire those free agents.

Post #1251 » by **Def Swami** » Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:07 am

Steve Kyler ‏@stevekylerNBA
You can go ahead and count the Charlotte Bobcats as one of the teams that are "aggressively" pursuing Rudy Gay -- may not have enough

BrettC03 · Post #1252 » by **BrettC03** » Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:12 am

Nelson is playing so well this season. Best of his career, IMO. I'd love to see him stick around.

Cigamodnalro · Post #1253 » by **Cigamodnalro** » Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:52 pm

BrettC03 wrote:Nelson is playing so well this season. Best of his career, IMO. I'd love to see him stick around.

Nelson is the one guy, IMHO, who stands out above the others as leader of this team. We have other important veterans and guys with good leadership qualities, but Jameer really is our anchor. It is his leadership, more than his stats, that is valuable to this team. Where I'd trade Redick or Davis more readily to improve this team's future, I'd be much more reticent with Nelson. Not sure if I'd trade him for a guy like Goran Dragic, e.g., even though Dragic is four years younger.

BadMofoPimp · Post #1254 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:18 pm

I don't care what some of you think. BBD and Reddick are not going to get their value back in draft picks if traded. That is insulting to them as players and what they mean to this organization to even say just trade them for draft picks. No team is going to offer anything significant as far as draft picks.

I am tired of everyone thinking that the Magic should just trade their talent to become the Bobcats for the next 3-5 years. I want nothing to do with being a bottom feeder. I seriously doubt Henny and Vaughn want to get stuck in that trap either. Because, the lottery guarantee's absolutely nothing. Good team players at least guarantee chemistry and a nucleus for success.

claudio-br · Post #1255 » by **claudio-br** » Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:31 pm

I dont think SVG will go to Phoenix. I would guess they will hire Dan Marjele or maybe other former Suns player.

in-limbo · Post #1256 » by **in-limbo** » Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:33 pm

There's no way we can get where we want to go without making some unpopular decisions. Literally anything could happen. If the Magic go full tank I would be very surprised but ya never know.

My feeling is they stay somewhat competitive next year and use contracts and assets to be a player in 2014. I think they end up with a high draft pick but not 1-3, they wont be that bad. Trading up a few spots is doable. Maybe we find a taker for the exeption and get a good player in return. It's all going to be very interesting. If you ask me, the Magic would be happier with multiple piucks in 2014 than having one very good pick. Henny has proven he has an eye so I trust he could find someone.

MagicTownBaller · Post #1257 » by **MagicTownBaller** » Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:59 pm

David Baumann @DavidBaumann33
As Feb. 21 #NBA trade deadline looms, sources tell me the Boston Celtics covet Orlando Magic SG J.J. Redick.

As I said in the Redick thread, let's get Avery Bradley and make them take Harrington!

BadMofoPimp · Post #1258 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:09 pm

Boston is trying to unload Barbosa and Lee. They are not trading Avery and they cannot take back Harrington and Redick unless they unload a similar contract as per Cap space. Thus, they don't really have much to offer.

j_n · Post #1259 » by **j_n** » Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:50 pm

MagicTownBaller wrote:
David Baumann @DavidBaumann33
As Feb. 21 #NBA trade deadline looms, sources tell me the Boston Celtics covet Orlando Magic SG J.J. Redick.

As I said in the Redick thread, let's get Avery Bradley and make them take Harrington!

I dont know if they are willing to trade bradely unless it would allow them to get rid of one of their bad contracts(green, bass, lee, terry).
Other than him they have nothing that would intrest us.

Cigamodnalro · Post #1260 » by **Cigamodnalro** » Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:14 pm

Lee is not a bad contract at all

magicfanejc42 · Post #1261 » by **magicfanejc42** » Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:22 pm

I don't want anything off of that Boston team. Bradley would be a good pick up if he wasn't always hurt. His career will be riddled with injury, no reason to bring that to our team.

BaunceyChillups · Post #1262 » by **BaunceyChillups** » Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:24 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:I don't care what some of you think. BBD and Reddick are not going to get their value back in draft picks if traded. That is insulting to them as players and what they mean to this organization to even say just trade them for draft picks. No team is going to offer anything significant as far as draft picks.

I am tired of everyone thinking that the Magic should just trade their talent to become the Bobcats for the next 3-5 years. I want nothing to do with being a bottom feeder. I seriously doubt Henny and Vaughn want to get stuck in that trap either. Because, the lottery guarantee's absolutely nothing. Good team players at least guarantee chemistry and a nucleus for success.

this doesn't make sense, the Cats actually have a future now after bottoming out instead of wasting time with an awful Stephen Jackson/Gerald Wallace/Raymond Felton lineup that would never amount to more than a first round exit

glennathan · Post #1263 » by **glennathan** » Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:12 pm

BaunceyChillups wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:I don't care what some of you think. BBD and Reddick are not going to get their value back in draft picks if traded. That is insulting to them as players and what they mean to this organization to even say just trade them for draft picks. No team is going to offer anything significant as far as draft picks.

I am tired of everyone thinking that the Magic should just trade their talent to become the Bobcats for the next 3-5 years. I want nothing to do with being a bottom feeder. I seriously doubt Henny and Vaughn want to get stuck in that trap either. Because, the lottery guarantee's absolutely nothing. Good team players at least guarantee chemistry and a nucleus for success.

this doesn't make sense, the Cats actually have a future now after bottoming out instead of wasting time with an awful Stephen Jackson/Gerald Wallace/Raymond Felton lineup that would never amount to more than a first round exit

They certainly did an upgrade in my opinion to Kemba Walker after parting ways with Felton.

I know this is not predicted to be a strong draft but wish we could get the bobcats pick this year to really test out the drafting abilities and scouting abilities of the completed new front office as see if they could find a diamond in the rough

RickB-Orlando · Post #1264 » by **RickB-Orlando** » Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:41 pm

BaunceyChillups wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:I don't care what some of you think. BBD and Reddick are not going to get their value back in draft picks if traded. That is insulting to them as players and what they mean to this organization to even say just trade them for draft picks. No team is going to offer anything significant as far as draft picks.

I am tired of everyone thinking that the Magic should just trade their talent to become the Bobcats for the next 3-5 years. I want nothing to do with being a bottom feeder. I seriously doubt Henny and Vaughn want to get stuck in that trap either. Because, the lottery guarantee's absolutely nothing. Good team players at least guarantee chemistry and a nucleus for success.

this doesn't make sense, the Cats actually have a future now after bottoming out instead of wasting time with an awful Stephen Jackson/Gerald Wallace/Raymond Felton lineup that would never amount to more than a first round exit

the Bobcats have had exactly one winning record since their inception. One. And to say they now have a future, when does it arrive? Because it wasn't this year. Also worth noting: after their worst in the league record, lo and behold, no number one pick and can't miss draft of Anthony Davis.

Teams that are perennially counting on a high lottery pick are destined to be perennially in the lottery. It's not a logical strategy for sustained success.

DMack78 · Post #1265 » by **DMack78** » Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:50 pm

magicfanejc42 wrote:I don't want anything off of that Boston team. Bradley would be a good pick up if he wasn't always hurt. His career will be riddled with injury, no reason to bring that to our team.

I'd take Rondo in a heartbeat for anyone on this team.