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Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX"Reg. Season"Ed.)

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Post#1321 Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX&quo
Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:10 pm by KingRobb02

caseyw20021 wrote:do you think this is a fair trade for both team the espn trade machine say orlando magic get 7 wins and the houston rockets get - 7 wins with it for Arron Afflalo and Glen Davis for James Harden and Patrick Patterson. and here what the nba trade checker says about it Orlando Magic Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +3.7 ppg, -2.2 rpg, and +1.6 apg and here what it say about the Rockets Houston Rockets Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -3.7 ppg, +2.2 rpg, and -1.6 apg?

here is the 1 link for you http://basketball.realgm.com/tradecheck ... de/6211047

and here is the 2 link for you http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bxjrh8b

You want Houston to give up the two best assets in the trade? Harden is clearly the only blue chip in the deal especially when comparing his PER to the shot happy Afflalo, and then when you look at a 23 year old Pat Patterson for a third of the cost of Big Baby, Orlando wins on both sides.
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Post#1322 Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX&quo
Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:21 pm by hanhh

KingRobb02 wrote:
caseyw20021 wrote:do you think this is a fair trade for both team the espn trade machine say orlando magic get 7 wins and the houston rockets get - 7 wins with it for Arron Afflalo and Glen Davis for James Harden and Patrick Patterson. and here what the nba trade checker says about it Orlando Magic Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +3.7 ppg, -2.2 rpg, and +1.6 apg and here what it say about the Rockets Houston Rockets Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -3.7 ppg, +2.2 rpg, and -1.6 apg?

here is the 1 link for you http://basketball.realgm.com/tradecheck ... de/6211047

and here is the 2 link for you http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bxjrh8b

You want Houston to give up the two best assets in the trade? Harden is clearly the only blue chip in the deal especially when comparing his PER to the shot happy Afflalo, and then when you look at a 23 year old Pat Patterson for a third of the cost of Big Baby, Orlando wins on both sides.



Why even bother working trades with Harden? He is not going anywhere anytime soon. Its like verbal diarrhea
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Post#1323 Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX&quo
Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:45 pm by Blue_and_Whte

Can someone tell me if we received the lakers first round pick for this upcoming draft in the Howard trade? Because based on their record, that would be hilarious.
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Post#1324 Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX&quo
Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:50 pm by Versubio

Blue_and_Whte wrote:Can someone tell me if we received the lakers first round pick for this upcoming draft in the Howard trade? Because based on their record, that would be hilarious.


We don't get it. Their 1st round pick belongs to Phoenix.
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Post#1325 Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX&quo
Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:50 pm by RYgoBOOM

Blue_and_Whte wrote:Can someone tell me if we received the lakers first round pick for this upcoming draft in the Howard trade? Because based on their record, that would be hilarious.

I don't think it's for 2013 but I could be wrong
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Post#1326 Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX&quo
Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:51 pm by Blue_and_Whte

Versubio wrote:
Blue_and_Whte wrote:Can someone tell me if we received the lakers first round pick for this upcoming draft in the Howard trade? Because based on their record, that would be hilarious.


We don't get it. Their 1st round pick belongs to Phoenix.

Ah damn..oh well. Thanks
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Post#1327 Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX&quo
Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:54 pm by Carlos Arroyo

Blue_and_Whte wrote:Can someone tell me if we received the lakers first round pick for this upcoming draft in the Howard trade? Because based on their record, that would be hilarious.

i think the lakers pick is for 2017
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Post#1328 Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX&quo
Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:57 pm by Optimus_Steel

Carlos Arroyo wrote:
Blue_and_Whte wrote:Can someone tell me if we received the lakers first round pick for this upcoming draft in the Howard trade? Because based on their record, that would be hilarious.

i think the lakers pick is for 2017


The way LA is going they are gonna suck for a long time lol. Kobe will retire and Dwight is a mentally flawed childman with declining athletecism. They have given up most their draft picks in the next 4 years. They may have capspace but FA is not what it used to be.
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Post#1329 Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX&quo
Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:58 pm by Versubio

Blue_and_Whte wrote:
Versubio wrote:
Blue_and_Whte wrote:Can someone tell me if we received the lakers first round pick for this upcoming draft in the Howard trade? Because based on their record, that would be hilarious.


We don't get it. Their 1st round pick belongs to Phoenix.

Ah damn..oh well. Thanks


Yeah, its too bad. I think we won't get their pick until 2017. We get a 1st from Denver or NYK in 2014, which ever team has the worst record.
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Post#1330 Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX&quo
Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:13 pm by Blue_and_Whte

Yeah I decided to not be lazy and revisited the details of the trade. Thanks. On a side note, someone mentioned NerlenNoel....I don't know about that guy his scouting report reads eerily like dwight's. Needs to develop a mid range game, needs to polish his post game and add a go to move.

Just seems like a skinnier version of Howard.
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Post#1331 Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX&quo
Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:28 pm by glennathan

Here is the link for those looking to see the details on the draft picks we get in the Dwight trade

http://www.orlandopinstripedpost.com/20 ... ward-trade
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Post#1332 Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX&quo
Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:47 pm by arsenal6106

glennathan wrote:Here is the link for those looking to see the details on the draft picks we get in the Dwight trade

http://www.orlandopinstripedpost.com/20 ... ward-trade


I'll post this link and the real gm link in the Official Rob Hennigan Transaction Thread for future reference. Just direct them to that thread if anybody is unsure about the picks we have received.
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Post#1333 Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX&quo
Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:50 pm by tiderulz

Versubio wrote:Yeah, its too bad. I think we won't get their pick until 2017. We get a 1st from Denver or NYK in 2014, which ever team has the worst record.


actually, the pick we get from Denver is from whichever team has the better record. We get the worst of the 2 picks.
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Post#1334 Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX&quo
Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:11 pm by Darth Magic

Would you do this trade?

A Vucevic-Montajunas front court could be deadly goign forward


Houston gets:
Jameer and Big Baby

Magic get:
Lin and D-Mo

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bgs48v9
What a bunch of a-holes
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Post#1335 Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX&quo
Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:23 pm by RYgoBOOM

Darth Magic wrote:Would you do this trade?

A Vucevic-Montajunas front court could be deadly goign forward


Houston gets:
Jameer and Big Baby

Magic get:
Lin and D-Mo

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bgs48v9

the rockets would never do this lol
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Post#1336 Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX&quo
Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:36 pm by Darth Magic

RYgoBOOM wrote:
Darth Magic wrote:Would you do this trade?

A Vucevic-Montajunas front court could be deadly goign forward


Houston gets:
Jameer and Big Baby

Magic get:
Lin and D-Mo

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bgs48v9

the rockets would never do this lol



The thinking is the Rockets are in win now mode and gt two vets who can help them make a legitimate playoff push. Lin and Harden both need the ball to excel, while Jameer can play off the ball and is a great shooter. Big Baby would add scoring, defense and rebounding up front. We take Lins large contract while getting D-Mo to add to our youth movement.
What a bunch of a-holes
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Post#1337 Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX"Reg
Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:42 pm by shadrock

shadrock wrote:Wondering if we could maybe squeeze a future first rounder (would have to be 2015 as they have traded 2013 to Minny) out of Memphis for taking on the contract of Marreese Speights for the next 2 years using the TPE(5 mil approx per season)? After looking at Hollingers analysis on his espn profile, its clear hes not keen on the guy, and it would be a simpler route to cutting salary than trading Gay.

For us, taking on salary that expires by 2014 is no problem, and if we get a pick, i say we should do it!

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Cant say i didnt see this coming! Just gutted we werent the team to make it happen! That pick could have been ours:
(Memphis sent big man Marreese Speights, guard Wayne Ellington, guard Josh Selby and a future first-round draft pick to the Cavs for forward Jon Leuer.)
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Post#1338 Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX&quo
Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:52 pm by BrettC03

Blue_and_Whte wrote:Yeah I decided to not be lazy and revisited the details of the trade. Thanks. On a side note, someone mentioned NerlenNoel....I don't know about that guy his scouting report reads eerily like dwight's. Needs to develop a mid range game, needs to polish his post game and add a go to move.

Just seems like a skinnier version of Howard.

If he developed a mid-range shot he'd be Ibaka 2.0
That'd be a great pairing with Vucevic if Vuc can develop some post moves.
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Post#1339 Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX&quo
Tue Jan 22, 2013 3:57 pm by rcklsscognition

OT but if any of you are fans of Chappelle show there is an absolutely epic article on it on Grantland right now.

http://t.co/nqu4TaHp
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Post#1340 Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX&quo
Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:05 pm by tiderulz

Darth Magic wrote:Would you do this trade?

A Vucevic-Montajunas front court could be deadly goign forward


Houston gets:
Jameer and Big Baby

Magic get:
Lin and D-Mo

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bgs48v9


I havent been that impressed to Montajunas to be honest. yes, i understand he is a rookie, still......
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