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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX"Reg. Season"Ed.)

Postby BadMofoPimp on Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:37 pm

Cigamodnalro wrote:So what's the story on Ish's contract? Is it a guaranteed three year deal? Do we have a team option at any point? Not that anyone out there is necessarily better than Ish, but Scott Machado, Malik Waayns, and Shelvin Mack did just clear waivers...


Guaranteed this year with player option for next year. Looks like he stays unless included in a trade. If the Magic keep Moore at SG after moving Afflalo or Reddick, then a PG would definitely be aquired or signed.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX"Reg. Season"Ed.)

Postby MoMM on Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:11 am

http://data.shamsports.com/content/page ... /magic.jsp

I just wish we had offered Ish's contract to Moore and Moore's to Ish :(
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX"Reg. Season"Ed.)

Postby Rick Rolled on Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:12 pm

The Memphis Grizzlies and Phoenix Suns are engaged in trade talks centered on forward Rudy Gay, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

Rudy Gay is averaging 17.8 points and 5.8 rebounds this season. (USA Today Sports)
The Grizzlies have been shopping Gay to multiple teams, and found an interested trade partner with the Suns, sources said.

There's no framework of a possible deal in place, but the Grizzlies have expressed a strong desire that any package involving Gay include Suns forward Jared Dudley and future first-round draft picks, sources said.


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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX"Reg. Season"Ed.)

Postby liquid_softgel on Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:37 pm

Rick Rolled wrote:
The Memphis Grizzlies and Phoenix Suns are engaged in trade talks centered on forward Rudy Gay, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

Rudy Gay is averaging 17.8 points and 5.8 rebounds this season. (USA Today Sports)
The Grizzlies have been shopping Gay to multiple teams, and found an interested trade partner with the Suns, sources said.

There's no framework of a possible deal in place, but the Grizzlies have expressed a strong desire that any package involving Gay include Suns forward Jared Dudley and future first-round draft picks, sources said.


http://tinyurl.com/bdopadj


I'm still baffled at the Grizz's repeated desire to move Gay.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX"Reg. Season"Ed.)

Postby BadMofoPimp on Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:58 pm

liquid_softgel wrote:
I'm still baffled at the Grizz's repeated desire to move Gay.


I think they see what some people see in that they have a player worth $8-10 mil a year being paid more than Wade or Lebron that increases for a few more years. It is a Shard like contract while Rudy Gay has already peaked and isn't the type of player to dominate a game or create his own shot with consistency. Afflalo isn't that far behind Gay as a player, but is just shorter and isn't a SF which there is a lack in quality SF's in the league

Anyone trading for Gay will be stuck with him for the rest of his contract. So, they better have a game plan to work with before aquiring.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX"Reg. Season"Ed.)

Postby Blue_and_Whte on Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:17 pm

liquid_softgel wrote:
Rick Rolled wrote:
The Memphis Grizzlies and Phoenix Suns are engaged in trade talks centered on forward Rudy Gay, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

Rudy Gay is averaging 17.8 points and 5.8 rebounds this season. (USA Today Sports)
The Grizzlies have been shopping Gay to multiple teams, and found an interested trade partner with the Suns, sources said.

There's no framework of a possible deal in place, but the Grizzlies have expressed a strong desire that any package involving Gay include Suns forward Jared Dudley and future first-round draft picks, sources said.


http://tinyurl.com/bdopadj


I'm still baffled at the Grizz's repeated desire to move Gay.

Gay makes them a treadmill team and they don't want to a bunch of money for a second tier star.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX"Reg. Season"Ed.)

Postby Ballah on Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:53 pm

Gay is on a superstar contract, Gay is not a superstar. It is that simple.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX"Reg. Season"Ed.)

Postby MagicFan41 on Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:58 pm

Ballah wrote:Gay is on a superstar contract, Gay is not a superstar. It is that simple.


While I agree that Gay is not a superstar and not worth his bloated contract, I do wonder sometimes how much his game/stats might expand if he was the #1 option on a team ala Harden. He is on a team where the stats get divided between some upper echelon players in ZBo, Gasol, Conley, Mayo (in the past - but an example of what somebody can do when they are the #1 option after leaving Memphis...).
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX"Reg. Season"Ed.)

Postby BadMofoPimp on Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:17 pm

MagicFan41 wrote:
Ballah wrote:Gay is on a superstar contract, Gay is not a superstar. It is that simple.


While I agree that Gay is not a superstar and not worth his bloated contract, I do wonder sometimes how much his game/stats might expand if he was the #1 option on a team ala Harden. He is on a team where the stats get divided between some upper echelon players in ZBo, Gasol, Conley, Mayo (in the past - but an example of what somebody can do when they are the #1 option after leaving Memphis...).


Gays game is nothing like Harndens. He is not fast or creates his own shot like Harnden. I have a feeling that Afflalo is a better offensive option than Gay at that end, but I don't watch many Grizzlies games. I think Gay would be a huge upgrade and can only dream about a Meer, Afflalo or JJ, Gay, BBD and Vucci lineup could do in this league, but I would hold out for a better prospect on a better contract.

I think this team learned enough after dealing with Shards, Arenas and Hedo's contracts. I say it is time to move on from this type of cap management.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX"Reg. Season"Ed.)

Postby thelead on Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:29 pm

MagicFan41 wrote:
Ballah wrote:Gay is on a superstar contract, Gay is not a superstar. It is that simple.


While I agree that Gay is not a superstar and not worth his bloated contract, I do wonder sometimes how much his game/stats might expand if he was the #1 option on a team ala Harden. He is on a team where the stats get divided between some upper echelon players in ZBo, Gasol, Conley, Mayo (in the past - but an example of what somebody can do when they are the #1 option after leaving Memphis...).


Do you know that Gay averages 17 shots per game? That's 3 more than the next highest (ZBo). How many more shots does he need? He shoots 41% and has a god awful Moe Harkless-Like 48% TS%.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX"Reg. Season"Ed.)

Postby rcklsscognition on Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:55 pm

John Hollinger is the reason they are trading him. Advanced stats.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX"Reg. Season"Ed.)

Postby BadMofoPimp on Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:58 pm

rcklsscognition wrote:John Hollinger is the reason they are trading him. Advanced stats.


If Henny is the Cap Guru he is known for, then I doubt he even thinks twice about adding Shard, I mean Gay.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX"Reg. Season"Ed.)

Postby DaFili on Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:21 pm

I'm just gonna leave these here.


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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX"Reg. Season"Ed.)

Postby arsenal6106 on Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:31 pm

Highlight vids of a NBA player on youtube will definitely change my opinion.

This guy has a highlight vid on youtube too.

Let's get him from Phoenix!



Heck, we should've kep Von Wafer. Look at these highlights!






I'm afraid to know if Duhon has any highlight vids on youtube.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIX"Reg. Season"Ed.)

Postby RickB-Orlando on Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:52 pm

arsenal6106 wrote:Highlight vids of a NBA player on youtube will definitely change my opinion.

This guy has a highlight vid on youtube too.

Let's get him from Phoenix!



Heck, we should've kep Von Wafer. Look at these highlights!






I'm afraid to know if Duhon has any highlight vids on youtube.


Of course he does!
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