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Re: Magic(8-12) vs. Hawks(12-6)

Postby Howard Mass on Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:12 pm

Magic were able to stay in it but just wasn't going to happen tonight.
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Re: Magic(8-12) vs. Hawks(12-6)

Postby Bobby Ray on Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:13 pm

Once again it's that First quarter that does us in
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Re: Magic(8-12) vs. Hawks(12-6)

Postby FFBlitzace on Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:17 pm

Last Guardian wrote:Waste of a game to keep close. We missed out on some Kyle time.



Ayon was just playing far too well for Kyle to get off the bench tonight.


Turnovers are a good stat, right? Must be.
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Re: Magic(8-12) vs. Hawks(12-6)

Postby thelead on Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:26 pm

Each loss brings us closer to someone like this:
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Re: Magic(8-12) vs. Hawks(12-6)

Postby Bobby Ray on Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:52 pm

Might want to think about bringing Moe back to the bench if we want to be more competitive imo. Moe had two 3pt attempts and missed both and we lost by 6, had Afflalo(who would be in the SF spot) took those shots who knows? Moe would still be getting minutes but maybe he'll be more effective against second units
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Re: Magic(8-12) vs. Hawks(12-6)

Postby AdamTheGreek on Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:39 pm

One of those games again where if you don't fall behind so much early and often, you're right there. That Hawks defense is doing something right to have won the last 8 meetings against us.







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Re: Magic(8-12) vs. Hawks(12-6)

Postby Ducklett on Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:47 am

The more I watch, the more I think the coaching staff thinks Moe Harkless is not worth the minutes he is being given. He is a non-issue on offense and his defense passed the one game on Carmelo has been average at best.

I have a bad feeling he is Wesley Johnson part 2.
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Re: Magic(8-12) vs. Hawks(12-6)

Postby ChosenSavior on Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:50 am

Ducklett wrote:The more I watch, the more I think the coaching staff thinks Moe Harkless is not worth the minutes he is being given. He is a non-issue on offense and his defense passed the one game on Carmelo has been average at best.

I have a bad feeling he is Wesley Johnson part 2.


I'm starting to get the exact same feeling. He hasn't really done anything that shows me he can be an impact player in the league, however he is only 19 so it is going to take time.
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Re: Magic(8-12) vs. Hawks(12-6)

Postby Dub_Sax on Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:53 am

I was just thinking maybe we could use Hark as trade bait for Bledsoe..
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Re: Magic(8-12) vs. Hawks(12-6)

Postby Malik Starks on Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:28 am

Ducklett wrote:The more I watch, the more I think the coaching staff thinks Moe Harkless is not worth the minutes he is being given. He is a non-issue on offense and his defense passed the one game on Carmelo has been average at best.


I have a bad feeling he is Wesley Johnson part 2.


He could use some time in the D-league, he'd get a lot more minutes opportunity to develop. I don't know the league rules, but I would guess it's too late to send him down there right now. I think the way his is being used is actually hurting his confidence right now because you can see he isn't ready. I'd much prefer the team start Redick but honestly even Dequan Jones would be a much better option as a starter. He is pretty much equal in terms of athleticism, and has a higher basketball IQ right now.

I would be suprised if Vaughn sticks with the current lineup more than one more game. I actually
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Re: Magic(8-12) vs. Hawks(12-6)

Postby tiderulz on Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:37 am

Bobby Ray wrote:Might want to think about bringing Moe back to the bench if we want to be more competitive imo. Moe had two 3pt attempts and missed both and we lost by 6, had Afflalo(who would be in the SF spot) took those shots who knows? Moe would still be getting minutes but maybe he'll be more effective against second units


i can agree with this. granted, I cant watch too many games lately, but he still seems to be adjusting and havent seen a game like his NY game in awhile. whether more coaching is needed or something just not clicking.

when some eventual trades come, i wouldnt mind seeing another SF brought in to develop. Not sure if Jones is SF or SG.
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Re: Magic(8-12) vs. Hawks(12-6)

Postby glennathan on Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:58 am

I think we can't honestly judge Harkless until he has played 1 season. We can see areas of his game that could use the most improvement but I think after 1 season then we can start to see what kind of player he develops into. You never know what may happen that everything may just click one day and he will get really good really fast.
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Re: Magic(8-12) vs. Hawks(12-6)

Postby Cigamodnalro on Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:16 am

Harkless is absurdly young. The guy will play in 240 NBA games and 600+ NBA practices before he turns 22.
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Re: Magic(8-12) vs. Hawks(12-6)

Postby JBSouthpaw on Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:47 am

They pretty much put Maurice in the corner, I'd like to them let him move more. Something.
I know he missed the shots, but I'm glad he actually got to take some.
LIke JV said, if he hit those, we'd be talking about how great a game he was having. He just needs more shots to develop rhythm.
I'd like to see this team place once without BBD, I'd like to see how the shot distribution would end up with splitting his 15 shots up among everyone else.
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Re: Magic(8-12) vs. Hawks(12-6)

Postby KingRobb02 on Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:56 am

Harkless has 10 points and 12 rebounds in the past 6 games. Not on average. Total. At least we're still undefeated in close games.
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