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You Big Baby haters need to understand...

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:06 am
by SmiteaDwight
He's so vital to our offense. Let these last two games serve as an example of what happens when we don;t have him. Our offense needs him.

37 turnovers in the last 2 games, in games when we out rebounded the other team by double digits and shot 50% from the field, barely losses.

The other teams have simply been getting up more shots than we have.

Toronto had 81 total shots versus our 70

Utah got up 83 shots to our 76 tonight.

In these plays that we have been squandering with turnovers, desperately trying to get up a shot, baby would just take it himself and get up a decent shot, and maybe shoot 43 percent. That's more effective than what we've been doing.

Baby proving ya'll wrong

Re: You Big Baby haters need to understand...

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:15 am
by Optimus_Steel
The guards seem discombobulated with Baby not being there. Its like he stabilizes the offense. He also sets very good screens with this wide body that really open things up for the guards. Still, some of these turnovers are self inflicted. AA has dribbled the ball off his foot 2 games in a row. Vuce has let balls slip thru his hands multiple times. Jameer looks drunk, making some really off decisions. JJ looks all out of sorts which is odd.

Re: You Big Baby haters need to understand...

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:19 am
by I Rasharted
The offense is awful with or without Davis.

Re: You Big Baby haters need to understand...

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:39 am
by OrlandO
SmiteaDwight wrote:Baby proving ya'll wrong

Re: You Big Baby haters need to understand...

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:52 am
by OrlChamps2030
Baby proved us wrong weeks ago man.

I thought we would have a dip in scoring without Baby, but I am surprised that the continuity of our offense is so stagnant without him.

Re: You Big Baby haters need to understand...

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 3:01 am
by Horcy
I Rasharted wrote:The offense is awful with or without Davis.


Hmmmmm.... :roll:

Re: You Big Baby haters need to understand...

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 3:12 am
by SmiteaDwight
Horcy wrote:
I Rasharted wrote:The offense is awful with or without Davis.


Hmmmmm.... :roll:

in terms of total points scored, we're 27th in the league. However without Davis, we're definitely worse. The primary reason why we suck at offense is because we can't draw fouls. By we have by far the lowest rate of fouls drawn of any team in the league.

Re: You Big Baby haters need to understand...

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 3:24 am
by Def Swami
OrlandO wrote:
SmiteaDwight wrote:Baby proving ya'll wrong

Re: You Big Baby haters need to understand...

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 3:38 am
by magicman123
its not just Big Baby, this team isn't good enough overall, and it really hurts when we have one of the key players out (Jameer, JJ, Davis and Afflalo), what were we, 1-6 without jameer?

Re: You Big Baby haters need to understand...

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 7:12 am
by Malik Starks
Davis is important-and I have CONSISTENTLY been a Baby supporter-however I think Ayon has actually played well enough to minimize the loss to a certain degree. Vucevic has also made up for some of the lost post scoring, we just need to get him the ball more often.

I'm beginning to think Hedo is going to have an even bigger impact at this point. He'll alow us to have two playmakers on the floor at ALL times, which should reduce our turnovers. Plus, he'll stretch the defense to allow our guards easier penetration (right now Harkeless's defender is basically standing near the paint daring him to shoot the three).

Best thing is we get Hedo back a lot sooner than Davis. I also thought he looked better during that first game athletically than I have seen in recent years.

Re: You Big Baby haters need to understand...

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 1:07 pm
by Last Guardian
2 games. We have had 20+ games and preseason and training camp where Baby was a big part of the offense. And then you go by 2 games without him. Be reasonable.

Re: You Big Baby haters need to understand...

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 1:08 pm
by BadMofoPimp
BBD just being there in the flow takes pressure off the other players. He is vital to this teams success on both ends of the court.

Re: You Big Baby haters need to understand...

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 1:14 pm
by DMack78
We definatly win last night if Baby was there, maybe not in toronto though they seem to just have our number.

Re: You Big Baby haters need to understand...

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 1:52 pm
by MitchellUK
RealGM, where you can't be critical without being labelled a "hater".

Re: You Big Baby haters need to understand...

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:08 pm
by BadMofoPimp
MitchellUK wrote:RealGM, where you can't be critical without being labelled a "hater".


This has been true since Day One.

Re: You Big Baby haters need to understand...

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:51 pm
by mhectorgato
SmiteaDwight wrote:He's so vital to our offense. Let these last two games serve as an example of what happens when we don;t have him. Our offense needs him.

37 turnovers in the last 2 games, in games when we out rebounded the other team by double digits and shot 50% from the field, barely losses.

The other teams have simply been getting up more shots than we have.

Toronto had 81 total shots versus our 70

Utah got up 83 shots to our 76 tonight.


In these plays that we have been squandering with turnovers, desperately trying to get up a shot, baby would just take it himself and get up a decent shot, and maybe shoot 43 percent. That's more effective than what we've been doing.

Baby proving ya'll wrong


Makes sense since BBD takes all of those early in the shot clock silly shots.

Re: You Big Baby haters need to understand...

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 4:43 pm
by drsd
Optimus_Steel wrote:The guards seem discombobulated with Baby not being there.


Redick and Davis have developed as a good tandem-pair.

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Re: You Big Baby haters need to understand...

Posted: Tue Jan 8, 2013 4:58 am
by SmiteaDwight
This thread is more relevant than ever, right now.

Re: You Big Baby haters need to understand...

Posted: Tue Jan 8, 2013 5:43 am
by ChosenSavior
SmiteaDwight wrote:This thread is more relevant than ever, right now.


Can't wait for his return although he may be two more weeks away before he suits back up for us.

Re: You Big Baby haters need to understand...

Posted: Tue Jan 8, 2013 6:57 am
by IGotDaMagicInMe
We might be the worst team in the league without davis, or at least thats what the 9 straight losses say, 0-9 without him. It's really sad :(