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Post#1 Where does Vooch rank among all centers in th
Fri Jan 4, 2013 5:42 pm by SmiteaDwight

As he is currently playing, not as a future prospect or anything.

In my estimation he's somewhere between 10 and 15.

Thoughts?
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Post#2 Re: Where does Vooch rank among all centers i
Fri Jan 4, 2013 6:01 pm by KingRobb02

Are we talking entire season or just the way Vucevic has been playing lately? Depends on what you want from your center, but here's my list:

Tyson Chandler
Brook Lopez
Chris Bosh
Dwight Howard
Anderson Varejao

Al Jefferson
Marc Gasol
Al Horford
Greg Monroe
Jo Noah

Demarcus Cousins
JaVale McGee
Nikola Pekovic
Deandre Jordan
JJ Hickson

***Vucevic***

Robin Lopez
Andre Drummond
Larry Sanders
Chris Kaman
Kosta Koufos

Nene
Omer Asik
Roy Hibbert (would be higher, but shooting 42% this year)
Spencer Hawes
Emeka Okafor



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Andrea bargnani
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Post#3 Re: Where does Vooch rank among all centers i
Fri Jan 4, 2013 6:06 pm by Viper1500

^Looks about right, except I think Chandler is a bit overrated if you're saying he's #1
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Post#4 Re: Where does Vooch rank among all centers i
Fri Jan 4, 2013 6:16 pm by Horcy

Varejao is definitely overratd too.

Hibbert should definitely be higher.
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Post#5 Re: Where does Vooch rank among all centers i
Fri Jan 4, 2013 6:57 pm by MagicStarwipe

Looking at that list, the center position is underrated in the NBA. Sure, there aren't the Robinson's, Ewing's, Olajuwon's and Shaq's, but there are a lot of pretty good players.
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Post#6 Re: Where does Vooch rank among all centers i
Fri Jan 4, 2013 6:57 pm by BrettC03

Vucevic is 7th overall in rebounds per game (10.5rpg), 36th in blocks per game (1.1bpg), and 21st among centers in scoring at 11.1ppg
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Post#7 Re: Where does Vooch rank among all centers i
Fri Jan 4, 2013 6:57 pm by Reverse_Angle

When is the last time you have seen omar play?
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Post#8 Re: Where does Vooch rank among all centers i
Fri Jan 4, 2013 8:22 pm by KingRobb02

Reverse_Angle wrote:When is the last time you have seen omar play?

I could watch Asik play defense all day, but his stone hands on offense kill it for me.
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Post#9 Re: Where does Vooch rank among all centers i
Fri Jan 4, 2013 8:23 pm by KingRobb02

Horcy wrote:Varejao is definitely overratd too.

Hibbert should definitely be higher.

If we're just talking about this year, Andy has been out of his mind. I explained why I rated Hibbert so low. He has been bad this year.
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Post#10 Re: Where does Vooch rank among all centers i
Fri Jan 4, 2013 8:25 pm by KingRobb02

Viper1500 wrote:^Looks about right, except I think Chandler is a bit overrated if you're saying he's #1

He's the best defensive center this year by a mile, and he shoots about 69% on offense. Sorry, I probably like him more than most people.
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Post#11 Re: Where does Vooch rank among all centers i
Fri Jan 4, 2013 10:25 pm by OrlandO

Why is McGee only playing 18 minutes? He has his issues, but he should be starting over Koufos. Can't imagine it all has to do with his asthma and playing in the mountains since there have been plenty of games where he's played above his average at home and less than his average away.
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Post#12 Re: Where does Vooch rank among all centers i
Fri Jan 4, 2013 10:58 pm by KingRobb02

OrlandO wrote:Why is McGee only playing 18 minutes? He has his issues, but he should be starting over Koufos. Can't imagine it all has to do with his asthma and playing in the mountains since there have been plenty of games where he's played above his average at home and less than his average away.

1. George Karl is always cooky with his lineups. He never played JR Smith huge minutes either.
2. If you look at the +/- for the Nuggets lineups. The top 4 all have KK in them. I don't know if that's coincidence, but he does a lot of little stuff that makes him above average, and he probably flows better with Faried and Gallo at eh forwards.
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Post#13 Re: Where does Vooch rank among all centers i
Fri Jan 4, 2013 11:19 pm by BaunceyChillups

McGee plays only 18 minutes because he sucks at defense

also that list is all out of whack, Vucevic should be ranked higher and Dwight has been average to terrible at everything this year except rebounding
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Post#14 Re: Where does Vooch rank among all centers i
Sat Jan 5, 2013 1:23 am by Reverse_Angle

KingRobb02 wrote:
Reverse_Angle wrote:When is the last time you have seen omar play?

I could watch Asik play defense all day, but his stone hands on offense kill it for me.


So the answer is while he was in Chicago? He has improved, he has wood hands now. Seriously though, here in Houston, people rate him very highly. Almost as high as harden.
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Post#15 Re: Where does Vooch rank among all centers i
Sat Jan 5, 2013 5:39 am by drsd

By PER, Vučević is at #26.
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Post#16 Re: Where does Vooch rank among all centers i
Sat Jan 5, 2013 8:42 am by Big Boss

I would like to know where he ranks among Centers at the same age? or where he ranks among players in his draft class that were picked ahead of him?
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Post#17 Re: Where does Vooch rank among all centers i
Sat Jan 5, 2013 12:24 pm by drsd

Bobby Ray wrote:I would like to know where he ranks among Centers at the same age?


By PER:
Below 22, the better Centers:
Andre Drummond at 19
DeMarcus Cousins at 22
Greg Monroe is 22


Some comparisons:
JaVale McGee is 24
Brandan Wright is 25
Jordan Hill is 25
Larry Sanders is 25
Kosta Koufos is 23
DeAndre Jordan is 24
Spencer Hawes is 24
Omer Asik is 26


Vučević would be projected to be in the middle range of this group. So, in his generation, he should be a top-10 NBA Center in some point of his career.


or where he ranks among players in his draft class that were picked ahead of him?


In the 2011 draft, there is a good chance that Vučević will develop into the best Center of this draft and a yop-3 draftee. Kyrie Irving seems like the only "certain" future all-star (and he does not look to be a franchise guy). Derrick Williams has the curse of #2, and projects as an average NBA starter. Enes Kanter at #3 because of his size is looking a lot more like Zaza than anything else at this point. Tristan Thompson at #4 is developing slow but he still has an awesome NBA body. Jonas Valančiūnas at #5 has an BA upside as a marginal starter. Detroit's Brandon Knight shows like he could be the real deal. Kemba Walker is better than many thought he would be in the NBA.

Without looking at every single player, Vučević projects to easily be the best big in this class, and by far the best Center. He also should slot in the top 3/4-tier with Irving and Knight, and maybe Thompson.

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Post#18 Re: Where does Vooch rank among all centers i
Sat Jan 5, 2013 12:51 pm by craig01

Around top 15, and he has much more offensive upside than many of those currently ahead of him
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Post#19 Re: Where does Vooch rank among all centers i
Sat Jan 5, 2013 2:48 pm by MoMM

Horcy wrote:Varejao is definitely overratd too.

Hibbert should definitely be higher.

AV is averaging 14/14 this season plus almost 4 apg and 2 blocks and steals, he is playing very well this season.
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Post#20 Re: Where does Vooch rank among all centers i
Sat Jan 5, 2013 3:23 pm by Big Boss

Vuc is just scratching the surface of his potential man, He has a post game he can build off of. He has a jumper with nice range that can actually be extended to the 3pt line if he chooses to and coach may have alluded to. His frame can still fill out some so he has room to get stronger which in turn will only help his rebounding and help him get post position. Really the only weakness he has is that he's not really athletic but his length helps kinda offset that and you can't say he's a bad defender either because he's not. He can only get better and i'm glad we have him, i personally know some philly fans regretting not playing him and giving him up
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