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Where does Vooch rank among all centers in the NBA?

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Re: Where does Vooch rank among all centers in the NBA?

Postby Bobby Ray on Sat Jan 05, 2013 8:42 am

I would like to know where he ranks among Centers at the same age? or where he ranks among players in his draft class that were picked ahead of him?
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Re: Where does Vooch rank among all centers in the NBA?

Postby drsd on Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:24 pm

Bobby Ray wrote:I would like to know where he ranks among Centers at the same age?


By PER:
Below 22, the better Centers:
Andre Drummond at 19
DeMarcus Cousins at 22
Greg Monroe is 22


Some comparisons:
JaVale McGee is 24
Brandan Wright is 25
Jordan Hill is 25
Larry Sanders is 25
Kosta Koufos is 23
DeAndre Jordan is 24
Spencer Hawes is 24
Omer Asik is 26


Vučević would be projected to be in the middle range of this group. So, in his generation, he should be a top-10 NBA Center in some point of his career.


or where he ranks among players in his draft class that were picked ahead of him?


In the 2011 draft, there is a good chance that Vučević will develop into the best Center of this draft and a yop-3 draftee. Kyrie Irving seems like the only "certain" future all-star (and he does not look to be a franchise guy). Derrick Williams has the curse of #2, and projects as an average NBA starter. Enes Kanter at #3 because of his size is looking a lot more like Zaza than anything else at this point. Tristan Thompson at #4 is developing slow but he still has an awesome NBA body. Jonas Valančiūnas at #5 has an BA upside as a marginal starter. Detroit's Brandon Knight shows like he could be the real deal. Kemba Walker is better than many thought he would be in the NBA.

Without looking at every single player, Vučević projects to easily be the best big in this class, and by far the best Center. He also should slot in the top 3/4-tier with Irving and Knight, and maybe Thompson.

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Re: Where does Vooch rank among all centers in the NBA?

Postby craig01 on Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:51 pm

Around top 15, and he has much more offensive upside than many of those currently ahead of him
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Re: Where does Vooch rank among all centers in the NBA?

Postby MoMM on Sat Jan 05, 2013 2:48 pm

Horcy wrote:Varejao is definitely overratd too.

Hibbert should definitely be higher.

AV is averaging 14/14 this season plus almost 4 apg and 2 blocks and steals, he is playing very well this season.
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Re: Where does Vooch rank among all centers in the NBA?

Postby Bobby Ray on Sat Jan 05, 2013 3:23 pm

Vuc is just scratching the surface of his potential man, He has a post game he can build off of. He has a jumper with nice range that can actually be extended to the 3pt line if he chooses to and coach may have alluded to. His frame can still fill out some so he has room to get stronger which in turn will only help his rebounding and help him get post position. Really the only weakness he has is that he's not really athletic but his length helps kinda offset that and you can't say he's a bad defender either because he's not. He can only get better and i'm glad we have him, i personally know some philly fans regretting not playing him and giving him up
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Re: Where does Vooch rank among all centers in the NBA?

Postby doct3r dr3 on Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:17 pm

drsd wrote:By PER, Vučević is at #26.


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Re: Where does Vooch rank among all centers in the NBA?

Postby SmiteaDwight on Sat Jan 05, 2013 11:33 pm

Interestingly enough, Dwight is putting up around the same stats, and a relatively less per as Andrew Bynum had last year and for years past. Imagine if the two had switched places, would Bynum currently be considered the best center in the league?
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Re: Where does Vooch rank among all centers in the NBA?

Postby SmiteaDwight on Sat Jan 05, 2013 11:37 pm

Bobby Ray wrote:Vuc is just scratching the surface of his potential man, He has a post game he can build off of. He has a jumper with nice range that can actually be extended to the 3pt line if he chooses to and coach may have alluded to. His frame can still fill out some so he has room to get stronger which in turn will only help his rebounding and help him get post position. Really the only weakness he has is that he's not really athletic but his length helps kinda offset that and you can't say he's a bad defender either because he's not. He can only get better and i'm glad we have him, i personally know some philly fans regretting not playing him and giving him up


I've heard the "he can add strength" argument before for Gortat and frankly, until they actually do it, I'am not convinced anything will happen.

Right now Vooch is simply Vooch.

A good player that won't take you places but won't fck you either.

unless we become good and resign him, we'll have to let him go because he'll be too expensive.
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Re: Where does Vooch rank among all centers in the NBA?

Postby ivDT on Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:00 am

better than michael doleac, and doleac was a top 8 center.
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Re: Where does Vooch rank among all centers in the NBA?

Postby craig01 on Sun Jan 06, 2013 8:18 am

ivDT wrote:better than michael doleac, and doleac was a top 8 center.


I never considered Doleac a top 8 center, however.....

NV is way better, and Vucevic probably has more double digit rebound games in the early part of this season than Doleac had his entire career.
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Re: Where does Vooch rank among all centers in the NBA?

Postby onyxw on Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:52 pm

ivDT wrote:better than michael doleac, and doleac was a top 8 center.


:lol: Always good to see Magicjam/ozone jokes bridge to other message boards. Rumors are that Ron Mercer's girlfriend has a Louis Bullock autograph for anyone that can prove the top 8 comment false.
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Re: Where does Vooch rank among all centers in the NBA?

Postby RookieStar on Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:11 am

This thread is perfect for the Doleac <> Declerc battle
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Re: Where does Vooch rank among all centers in the NBA?

Postby OMPunk on Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:07 pm

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Re: Where does Vooch rank among all centers in the NBA?

Postby GameOver25 on Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:47 pm

SmiteaDwight wrote:
Bobby Ray wrote:Vuc is just scratching the surface of his potential man, He has a post game he can build off of. He has a jumper with nice range that can actually be extended to the 3pt line if he chooses to and coach may have alluded to. His frame can still fill out some so he has room to get stronger which in turn will only help his rebounding and help him get post position. Really the only weakness he has is that he's not really athletic but his length helps kinda offset that and you can't say he's a bad defender either because he's not. He can only get better and i'm glad we have him, i personally know some philly fans regretting not playing him and giving him up


I've heard the "he can add strength" argument before for Gortat and frankly, until they actually do it, I'am not convinced anything will happen.

Right now Vooch is simply Vooch.

A good player that won't take you places but won't fck you either.

unless we become good and resign him, we'll have to let him go because he'll be too expensive.


This makes no sense. The point of rebuilding is to get better. You do that by keeping Vuc, who's still young and proving to be a solid big and trade your current assets (JJ, Baby, etc). I'm not understanding your last sentence.
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Re: Where does Vooch rank among all centers in the NBA?

Postby magicman123 on Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:49 pm

#2, right behind brooke lopez
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