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So Rudy Gay is available... We interested? Trade scenarios?

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Re: So Rudy Gay is available... We interested? Trade scenar

Postby claudio-br on Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:51 am

I'd take Rudy Gay. Depending on what the cost is, of course. If the Grizz are willing to take Redick + fillers, it would be a great deal for us. Redick may be gone at the end of his contract if any other team outbids the Magic and Memphis needs a 3-point shooter. Also, if they take Hedo, they can clear up partly Gay's long contract. It's a deal that works for both.
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Re: So Rudy Gay is available... We interested? Trade scenar

Postby CourtsideTV on Sat Jan 05, 2013 11:24 am

harrington+hedo+jj+ayon+picks for gay/zbo/and one of their pgs LOL...we'll be back in contention

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Re: So Rudy Gay is available... We interested? Trade scenar

Postby Ballah on Sat Jan 05, 2013 11:28 am

Yab wrote:We haven't had a player that could create his own shot in a lonnnnnnnnnnng time. I'd gladly trade anyone not named Nicholson or Vucevic


Why? what good does that do us? We are not going to be contenders until we have a star, Rudy Gay is not a star. The Lotto is the only way back towards legitimacy, getting an all star caliber player now would be completely pointless.
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Re: So Rudy Gay is available... We interested? Trade scenar

Postby Def Swami on Sat Jan 05, 2013 11:38 am

I wouldn't give anymore than JJ + Hedo or Harrington. Gay isn't worth his contract. And I think him being here would hurt our chances of moving up in the draft to land a real horse.

I'd prefer to go after players that live up to their contract or are a bargain.
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Re: So Rudy Gay is available... We interested? Trade scenar

Postby drsd on Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:09 pm

Orlando has two project SFs in Harkless and Jones. One of those two should emerge as an acceptable Magic starter. What Orlando needs is a new PG.
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Re: So Rudy Gay is available... We interested? Trade scenar

Postby SEBAS-07 on Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:29 pm

Bensational wrote:Gay may not be worth the contract, but there aren't many other options out there via free agency or this year's draft. Who do people plan on pursuing if not him?


No one, ride it out till the 2014 draft. The only deal I would consider is Hedo and Al Harrignton for Rudy Gay; Mcroberts could also be involved.
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Re: So Rudy Gay is available... We interested? Trade scenar

Postby RickB-Orlando on Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:35 pm

Ballah wrote:
Yab wrote:We haven't had a player that could create his own shot in a lonnnnnnnnnnng time. I'd gladly trade anyone not named Nicholson or Vucevic


Why? what good does that do us? We are not going to be contenders until we have a star, Rudy Gay is not a star. The Lotto is the only way back towards legitimacy, getting an all star caliber player now would be completely pointless.


Why trade for Rudy Gay? You have to start with one piece - who is better than Gay that is available, or likely to be available in the next few years? The Lottery is not the only way back to legitimacy; there are also three other routes: trades, player development, and free agency.

Adding Gay to a core with some potential that includes Vucevic and Afflalo plus the development of Harkless or Nicholson as starting pieces would be a pretty good start.
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Re: So Rudy Gay is available... We interested? Trade scenar

Postby Ballah on Sat Jan 05, 2013 2:21 pm

The only way back to contention is with a super star, and taking ourselves out of the lotto with Gay removes the most reliable source of super stars. Adding Gay just puts us in the path to mediocrity with no way other than free agency to improve, that is the last place we want to be.
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Re: So Rudy Gay is available... We interested? Trade scenar

Postby magicman123 on Sat Jan 05, 2013 2:23 pm

lets see

A. We trade players and prospects
B. trade draft pick(s)
C. Pay Gay $20mil a year?
D. For a player producing like Afflalo?
E. For a Player that takes 17 shots just to score 18pts?

Don't see how its worth it, unless he comes dirt cheap
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Postby Driguez on Sat Jan 05, 2013 3:03 pm

JF5 wrote:No...

Still a rebuilding team... Get rebuilding pieces


Common sense is frowned upon in this establishment buddy. :nonono:
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Re: So Rudy Gay is available... We interested? Trade scenar

Postby Ballah on Sat Jan 05, 2013 3:06 pm

There are only two things we need to be trading for right now, picks and young prospects. Forget about getting all stars and overpaid players, unless we are being paid with picks and young prospects to take them.
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Re: So Rudy Gay is available... We interested? Trade scenar

Postby sublime12089 on Sat Jan 05, 2013 5:25 pm

Not at all. No interest in being a first round playoff team for the foreseeable future. Also, I doubt our GM values Gay very highly based on his lack of efficiency.
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Re: So Rudy Gay is available... We interested? Trade scenar

Postby Cigamodnalro on Sat Jan 05, 2013 5:59 pm

Ballah wrote:There are only two things we need to be trading for right now, picks and young prospects. Forget about getting all stars and overpaid players, unless we are being paid with picks and young prospects to take them.


From RealGM Trade Forum:

zmad wrote:URL: http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=amwph9w

ORLANDO
In: Ross
Out: Afflalo

Why? Save lots of salary and get a SG from the lotto with great potential for the re-build

MEMPHIS
In: Calderon, Afflalo
Out: Gay, Wroten

Why? Get out of the tax, and don't miss a beat with Afflalo while also adding a great backup for Conley for the rest of the season and the playoffs

TORONTO
In: Gay, Wroten
Out: Calderon, Ross

Why? Get the SF they need that fits in age-wise with their core (Gay is same age as Lowry)

What are your thoughts? I can't see why any of these teams wouldn't do this...if you disagree, let me know why.
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Re: So Rudy Gay is available... We interested? Trade scenar

Postby Cigamodnalro on Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:00 pm

^^ I like the above even better with Redick instead of Afflalo, but if we have locked up a young, talented SG on a rookie contract in Ross, it makes re-signing Redick to a 8m+ deal (for 3ish years) much easier to swallow.
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Re: So Rudy Gay is available... We interested? Trade scenar

Postby Bensational on Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:09 pm

SEBAS-07 wrote:
Bensational wrote:Gay may not be worth the contract, but there aren't many other options out there via free agency or this year's draft. Who do people plan on pursuing if not him?


No one, ride it out till the 2014 draft. The only deal I would consider is Hedo and Al Harrignton for Rudy Gay; Mcroberts could also be involved.


ride it out for a ticket in a lottery for a bunch of players who are just as much of a gamble?

people get hung up about the potential of landing a true star, but the odds are heavily against you landing one via the draft.

i don't care if it's Rudy we go for or not (although, i'm a big fan of his game), i just want a player on this team i can get excited about. i couldn't stand watching this team for another season if Vucevic is going to continue to be the only bright spot.
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