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Post#121 Re: Redick receiving interest from teams
Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:24 am by BadMofoPimp

Damn, in the last 5 games, JJ hitting .500 from the floor and .486 from the three. Dude is just tearing it up. Imagine if he was a starter and given the green light. But, I do like the 1-2 punch of JJ and Afflalo. I wouldn't mind keeping both, but Moore is deserving of some good backup minutes strictly at SG too.
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Post#122 Re: Redick receiving interest from teams
Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:04 am by CraZyPraiZ

Love JJ but would like to see him get a chance to play on a contender. He deserves it.
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Post#123 Re: Redick receiving interest from teams
Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:39 am by Zmill

Bensational wrote:Redick seems much more influential over our W's and L's than Afflalo.

in W's, Redick averages 18ppg on 52%fg and 48%3fg, along with 2.6rpg and 5.2apg in 31.6mpg
in W's, Afflalo averages 18ppg on 48%fg and 47%3fg, along with 4.7rpg and 2.8apg in 37.4mpg

in L's, Redick averages 12.5ppg on 40% and 32%, 2.1rpg, 3.8apg in 30mpg
in L's, Afflalo averages 17ppg on 43% and 28%, 3.2rpg, 3apg in 37.4mpg

in some ways, i'll be annoyed if we trade JJ only to retain Afflalo. i like AA, but i feel like JJ has really been dogged his dues. AA isn't any kind of significant upgrade, and he's not having a significant breakout that i'd imagine the Magic would have liked. give JJ 36mpg and the freedom to put up as many shots as he wants, and i'm sure you'd see just as much of a breakout, if not a bigger one.


I gotta agree with this post.

I guess it's been a given on this board for a while that Rob is going to go with Afflalo instead of JJ (although there is no concrete evidence). But I prefer JJ.

JJ is a far superior play maker, slightly worse scorer (he does shoot it less though), and a similar defender to Afflalo. JJ can play with the ball or off the ball. Afflalo is limited to simply just spotting up without the ball. Afflalo is a pretty good ISO scorer and his ability to get to the rim is valuable, but is it more valuable than JJ's playmakig ability? JJ averages 4.7 apg on a 23.4% AST%. Compare that to the three other shooting guards that average over 4 assists per game. James Harden 5.4 apg 23.9 AST%, Kobe Bryant 4.7 APG 24 AST%, and OJ Mayo 4.1 APG 19.4 AST%.


To me JJ is a better all-around offensive player than Afflalo. However if JJ tells Rob he'd like to go somewhere else, then this whole dilemma is solved.
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Post#124 Re: Redick receiving interest from teams
Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:48 am by Nyce_1

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As Feb. 21 #NBA trade deadline looms, sources tell me the Boston Celtics covet Orlando Magic SG J.J. Redick.


I really don't see anything from Boston that would entice us to a trade. Unless, they take on some contracts.
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Post#125 Re: Redick receiving interest from teams
Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:36 am by claudio-br

I've heard that a lot of Nuggets fans dislike Gallinari. Maybe he could be involved in a Redick trade.
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Post#126 Re: Redick receiving interest from teams
Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:57 am by MagicTownBaller

Nyce_1 wrote:
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As Feb. 21 #NBA trade deadline looms, sources tell me the Boston Celtics covet Orlando Magic SG J.J. Redick.


I really don't see anything from Boston that would entice us to a trade. Unless, they take on some contracts.

Let's get Avery Bradley and make them take on Harrington! Do it Henny!
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Post#127 Re: Redick receiving interest from teams
Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:00 pm by BadMofoPimp

Nyce_1 wrote:
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As Feb. 21 #NBA trade deadline looms, sources tell me the Boston Celtics covet Orlando Magic SG J.J. Redick.


I really don't see anything from Boston that would entice us to a trade. Unless, they take on some contracts.


I bet if Boston contacted Orlando, they offered Barbosa and Lee. That is just how they work over there.
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Post#128 Re: Redick receiving interest from teams
Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:13 pm by Nyce_1

BadMofoPimp wrote:
Nyce_1 wrote:
David Baumann ‏@DavidBaumann33
As Feb. 21 #NBA trade deadline looms, sources tell me the Boston Celtics covet Orlando Magic SG J.J. Redick.


I really don't see anything from Boston that would entice us to a trade. Unless, they take on some contracts.


I bet if Boston contacted Orlando, they offered Barbosa and Lee. That is just how they work over there.

Exactly. Seriously, they have nothing that fits with our plan.
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Post#129 Re: Redick receiving interest from teams
Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:18 pm by Zmill

I wonder if Boston is willing to give up Bradley
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Post#130 Re: Redick receiving interest from teams
Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:22 pm by BadMofoPimp

I have a feeling that Avery Bradley's ceiling is lower than Afflalo and he will be a career backup who wouldn't not be a starter on a Championship team. I like him for his defense though.
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Post#131 Re: Redick receiving interest from teams
Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:06 pm by Bensational

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Bensational wrote:Redick seems much more influential over our W's and L's than Afflalo.

in W's, Redick averages 18ppg on 52%fg and 48%3fg, along with 2.6rpg and 5.2apg in 31.6mpg
in W's, Afflalo averages 18ppg on 48%fg and 47%3fg, along with 4.7rpg and 2.8apg in 37.4mpg

in L's, Redick averages 12.5ppg on 40% and 32%, 2.1rpg, 3.8apg in 30mpg
in L's, Afflalo averages 17ppg on 43% and 28%, 3.2rpg, 3apg in 37.4mpg

in some ways, i'll be annoyed if we trade JJ only to retain Afflalo. i like AA, but i feel like JJ has really been dogged his dues. AA isn't any kind of significant upgrade, and he's not having a significant breakout that i'd imagine the Magic would have liked. give JJ 36mpg and the freedom to put up as many shots as he wants, and i'm sure you'd see just as much of a breakout, if not a bigger one.


I gotta agree with this post.

I guess it's been a given on this board for a while that Rob is going to go with Afflalo instead of JJ (although there is no concrete evidence). But I prefer JJ.

JJ is a far superior play maker, slightly worse scorer (he does shoot it less though), and a similar defender to Afflalo. JJ can play with the ball or off the ball. Afflalo is limited to simply just spotting up without the ball. Afflalo is a pretty good ISO scorer and his ability to get to the rim is valuable, but is it more valuable than JJ's playmakig ability? JJ averages 4.7 apg on a 23.4% AST%. Compare that to the three other shooting guards that average over 4 assists per game. James Harden 5.4 apg 23.9 AST%, Kobe Bryant 4.7 APG 24 AST%, and OJ Mayo 4.1 APG 19.4 AST%.


To me JJ is a better all-around offensive player than Afflalo. However if JJ tells Rob he'd like to go somewhere else, then this whole dilemma is solved.


in a way, i feel like JJ's just been continuously slapped in the face here. it's like no matter how hard he works on his game, the team always brings in a player that they value over him as a starter, and for larger minutes. who knows, maybe JJ knows his role and has happily accepted that? but JRich certainly wasn't a better option last year. and AA is better in some areas, but it's questionable whether or not he's better overall.

emotions aside, though, i can't help but feel like JJ is the exact kind of Nick Collison style piece that's worth keeping around for a few years. and at least we would know that if we drafted a SG to eventually supplant him, JJ is still solid when coming off the bench. we could easily offer him a reverse poison pill deal. $10M per year for the next 2 years, with a further 3 years at $5M per year, maybe $4M? that's the equivalent of 5 years $7M, which will be more than he'll get elsewhere. most of all, it doesn't hurt our cap space for FA 2014.

because, as i've said before, there isn't a player who's solidified themselves as a cornerstone player yet, and because of that, no player is guaranteed to be here. so why commit to AA, only to possibly need to turn around and deal him within a year or two when a real upgrade comes along?
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Post#132 Re: Redick receiving interest from teams
Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:13 pm by MagicTime1

the greatest possibility in my opinion is trading JJ Redick and a filler for Derrick Williams and Alexis Shved. There would definitely be no way Minnesota does it though :/
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Post#133 Re: Redick receiving interest from teams
Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:35 pm by MagicTime1

If Henny was able to pull this deal off, how would you guys feel?

Denver trades: Wilson Chandler, Corey Brewer, Anthony Randolph, and Timothy Mozgrov
Denver Receives: JJ Redick, Hedo Turkoglu, Kyle O Quinn, and a 2015 first round draft pick

Orlando trades: JJ Redick, Hedo Turkoglu, Kyle O Quinn, Future first round pick
Orlando Receives: Wilson Chandler, Corey Brewer, Anthony Randolph, and Timothy Mozgrov

Orlando Lineup:
PG: Jameer Nelson, Ish Smith, Etuan Moore
SG: Aaron Affalo, Etuan Moore, DQ
SF: Corey Brewer, Mo Harkless
PF: Big Baby, Andrew Nicholson, Josh McRoberts
C: Nik Vucevic, Mozgrov, Anthony Randolph

Why Orando Does it: They get expiring contracts in Brewer, and Mozgrov. That gives them at least 7 million in free cap space, and Wilson Chandler has the potential to become something special. I also believe that Randolph with the right coaching, and playing time could also have a huge upside and bring some athleticism to this team.

Denver Lineup:
PG: Ty Lawson, Andre Miller
SG: Iggy, JJ Redick, Fornier
SF: Gallinari, Jordan Hamilton
PF: Faried, Free Agent?, O'Quinn
C: Javale McGee, Kousta Kofus

Why Denver Does It: They can release Hedo Turkoglu out of his contract and only pay him whatever he is guranteed, and they get a sharp shooter in JJ Redick who will help them with their inconsistant scoring problems. Also adding another heart and hustle player with Kyle.
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Post#134 Re: Redick receiving interest from teams
Sun Jan 20, 2013 3:12 am by MagicFan32

Bensational wrote:Redick seems much more influential over our W's and L's than Afflalo.

in W's, Redick averages 18ppg on 52%fg and 48%3fg, along with 2.6rpg and 5.2apg in 31.6mpg
in W's, Afflalo averages 18ppg on 48%fg and 47%3fg, along with 4.7rpg and 2.8apg in 37.4mpg

in L's, Redick averages 12.5ppg on 40% and 32%, 2.1rpg, 3.8apg in 30mpg
in L's, Afflalo averages 17ppg on 43% and 28%, 3.2rpg, 3apg in 37.4mpg

in some ways, i'll be annoyed if we trade JJ only to retain Afflalo. i like AA, but i feel like JJ has really been dogged his dues. AA isn't any kind of significant upgrade, and he's not having a significant breakout that i'd imagine the Magic would have liked. give JJ 36mpg and the freedom to put up as many shots as he wants, and i'm sure you'd see just as much of a breakout, if not a bigger one.

I won't be.

Afflalo can get his own shot, while he is frustrating at times, if we had a real franchise player, he would look a hell of alot better to us, i think his last 15 he is averaging 20 ppg, he also has a good contract and only 27, JJ quite possibly is going to get paid more than Afflalo. Afflalo frustrates us because he's being asked to do to much, JJ has similar issues but people overlook them alot more
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Post#135 Re: Redick receiving interest from teams
Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:27 am by drsd

WIth Lou WIlliams out, look for the Hawks to "over-pay" for a quality SG. Would Orlando send Redick to an in conference team? If the playoffs are written off, then yes.

Would John Jenkins and a 1st get it done?


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Post#136 Re: Redick receiving interest from teams
Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:49 am by Bensational

MagicFan32 wrote:
Bensational wrote:Redick seems much more influential over our W's and L's than Afflalo.

in W's, Redick averages 18ppg on 52%fg and 48%3fg, along with 2.6rpg and 5.2apg in 31.6mpg
in W's, Afflalo averages 18ppg on 48%fg and 47%3fg, along with 4.7rpg and 2.8apg in 37.4mpg

in L's, Redick averages 12.5ppg on 40% and 32%, 2.1rpg, 3.8apg in 30mpg
in L's, Afflalo averages 17ppg on 43% and 28%, 3.2rpg, 3apg in 37.4mpg

in some ways, i'll be annoyed if we trade JJ only to retain Afflalo. i like AA, but i feel like JJ has really been dogged his dues. AA isn't any kind of significant upgrade, and he's not having a significant breakout that i'd imagine the Magic would have liked. give JJ 36mpg and the freedom to put up as many shots as he wants, and i'm sure you'd see just as much of a breakout, if not a bigger one.

I won't be.

Afflalo can get his own shot, while he is frustrating at times, if we had a real franchise player, he would look a hell of alot better to us, i think his last 15 he is averaging 20 ppg, he also has a good contract and only 27, JJ quite possibly is going to get paid more than Afflalo. Afflalo frustrates us because he's being asked to do to much, JJ has similar issues but people overlook them alot more


AA is putting up 20ppg because he's getting the shots and the minutes. He isn't producing any more than JJ is capable of doing.

If we had a franchise player and a legit #2, then AA's ability to find his own shot isn't as valuable as JJ's ability to find an open man. Besides, JJ can create his own shots at times too.

AA's a year younger than JJ, and who knows what JJ's pay will be?
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Post#137 Re: Redick receiving interest from teams
Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:05 pm by drsd

Surprise there is not more on the rumors of Jonathan Clay to Boston. What I do not see in that is what the Celtics would offer. Fab Melo and a 1st? And why would Boston want that? If a big is "thrown in", that is Harrington. And then, how could the prices ever match?

Any Boston offer for Redick seems certain to involve a third team.
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Post#138 Re: Redick receiving interest from teams
Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:21 pm by tiderulz

drsd wrote:Surprise there is not more on the rumors of Jonathan Clay to Boston. What I do not see in that is what the Celtics would offer. Fab Melo and a 1st? And why would Boston want that? If a big is "thrown in", that is Harrington. And then, how could the prices ever match?

Any Boston offer for Redick seems certain to involve a third team.


with Bradley, Lee and Terry, why would they want to get another SG?
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Post#139 Re: Redick receiving interest from teams
Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:44 pm by gp123

Lets cut AA a little slack here guys...

Because he starts he's seeing more minutes against the other teams starting shooting guard. THEN he has to go play out of position at the 3. I love what JJ brings and he's no slouch on D either, but I will take AA defense over JJ's any day.
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Post#140 Re: Redick receiving interest from teams
Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:32 pm by Cigamodnalro

tiderulz wrote:
drsd wrote:Surprise there is not more on the rumors of Jonathan Clay to Boston. What I do not see in that is what the Celtics would offer. Fab Melo and a 1st? And why would Boston want that? If a big is "thrown in", that is Harrington. And then, how could the prices ever match?

Any Boston offer for Redick seems certain to involve a third team.


with Bradley, Lee and Terry, why would they want to get another SG?


Bradley is small, Terry is old and inconsistent, and Lee is adequate but no Redick--especially from deep or with the game on the line?
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