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Re: Redick receiving interest from teams

Postby Bensational on Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:49 am

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Bensational wrote:Redick seems much more influential over our W's and L's than Afflalo.

in W's, Redick averages 18ppg on 52%fg and 48%3fg, along with 2.6rpg and 5.2apg in 31.6mpg
in W's, Afflalo averages 18ppg on 48%fg and 47%3fg, along with 4.7rpg and 2.8apg in 37.4mpg

in L's, Redick averages 12.5ppg on 40% and 32%, 2.1rpg, 3.8apg in 30mpg
in L's, Afflalo averages 17ppg on 43% and 28%, 3.2rpg, 3apg in 37.4mpg

in some ways, i'll be annoyed if we trade JJ only to retain Afflalo. i like AA, but i feel like JJ has really been dogged his dues. AA isn't any kind of significant upgrade, and he's not having a significant breakout that i'd imagine the Magic would have liked. give JJ 36mpg and the freedom to put up as many shots as he wants, and i'm sure you'd see just as much of a breakout, if not a bigger one.

I won't be.

Afflalo can get his own shot, while he is frustrating at times, if we had a real franchise player, he would look a hell of alot better to us, i think his last 15 he is averaging 20 ppg, he also has a good contract and only 27, JJ quite possibly is going to get paid more than Afflalo. Afflalo frustrates us because he's being asked to do to much, JJ has similar issues but people overlook them alot more


AA is putting up 20ppg because he's getting the shots and the minutes. He isn't producing any more than JJ is capable of doing.

If we had a franchise player and a legit #2, then AA's ability to find his own shot isn't as valuable as JJ's ability to find an open man. Besides, JJ can create his own shots at times too.

AA's a year younger than JJ, and who knows what JJ's pay will be?
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Re: Redick receiving interest from teams

Postby drsd on Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:05 pm

Surprise there is not more on the rumors of Jonathan Clay to Boston. What I do not see in that is what the Celtics would offer. Fab Melo and a 1st? And why would Boston want that? If a big is "thrown in", that is Harrington. And then, how could the prices ever match?

Any Boston offer for Redick seems certain to involve a third team.
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Re: Redick receiving interest from teams

Postby tiderulz on Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:21 pm

drsd wrote:Surprise there is not more on the rumors of Jonathan Clay to Boston. What I do not see in that is what the Celtics would offer. Fab Melo and a 1st? And why would Boston want that? If a big is "thrown in", that is Harrington. And then, how could the prices ever match?

Any Boston offer for Redick seems certain to involve a third team.


with Bradley, Lee and Terry, why would they want to get another SG?
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Re: Redick receiving interest from teams

Postby gp123 on Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:44 pm

Lets cut AA a little slack here guys...

Because he starts he's seeing more minutes against the other teams starting shooting guard. THEN he has to go play out of position at the 3. I love what JJ brings and he's no slouch on D either, but I will take AA defense over JJ's any day.
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Re: Redick receiving interest from teams

Postby Cigamodnalro on Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:32 pm

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drsd wrote:Surprise there is not more on the rumors of Jonathan Clay to Boston. What I do not see in that is what the Celtics would offer. Fab Melo and a 1st? And why would Boston want that? If a big is "thrown in", that is Harrington. And then, how could the prices ever match?

Any Boston offer for Redick seems certain to involve a third team.


with Bradley, Lee and Terry, why would they want to get another SG?


Bradley is small, Terry is old and inconsistent, and Lee is adequate but no Redick--especially from deep or with the game on the line?
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Re: Redick receiving interest from teams

Postby D12VCMagic on Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:53 pm

JJ has always gotten a pass from this fanbase and I don't get it. When he plays bad, nobody brings it up. But when Afflalo plays bad, everyone whines.
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Re: Redick receiving interest from teams

Postby magicman123 on Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:56 pm

D12VCMagic wrote:JJ has always gotten a pass from this fanbase and I don't get it. When he plays bad, nobody brings it up. But when Afflalo plays bad, everyone whines.


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Re: Redick receiving interest from teams

Postby drsd on Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:38 pm

drsd wrote:WIth Lou WIlliams out, look for the Hawks to "over-pay" for a quality SG. Would Orlando send Redick to an in conference team? If the playoffs are written off, then yes.

Would John Jenkins and a 1st get it done?


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To quote me, would John Jenkins and a 1st be enough for Atlanta to trade for Redick?



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Re: Redick receiving interest from teams

Postby Cigamodnalro on Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:43 pm

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drsd wrote:WIth Lou WIlliams out, look for the Hawks to "over-pay" for a quality SG. Would Orlando send Redick to an in conference team? If the playoffs are written off, then yes.

Would John Jenkins and a 1st get it done?


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To quote me, would John Jenkins and a 1st be enough for Atlanta to trade for Redick?



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I think we can find better than a deep prospect and the #16 pick, but if it's the best thing on the table at the deadline, I'd probably do it.
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Re: Redick receiving interest from teams

Postby Bensational on Sun Jan 20, 2013 3:38 pm

gp123 wrote:Lets cut AA a little slack here guys...

Because he starts he's seeing more minutes against the other teams starting shooting guard. THEN he has to go play out of position at the 3. I love what JJ brings and he's no slouch on D either, but I will take AA defense over JJ's any day.


AA is fine. I think he's a good character guy, I like his hustle, and I think he's an efficient player. I just don't think he's any major upgrade over JJ, he doesn't have the history with Orlando that JJ does, and if we're looking at a team that doesn't have a single core piece yet, then he may not even have a future with the team.

One thing I do like about AA, though, is how he'll get to the rim on his own. He's actually quite good at that, and if he did it more often he'd probably elevate his game a whole other level.
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Re: Redick receiving interest from teams

Postby shadrock on Sun Jan 20, 2013 5:32 pm

drsd wrote:
drsd wrote:WIth Lou WIlliams out, look for the Hawks to "over-pay" for a quality SG. Would Orlando send Redick to an in conference team? If the playoffs are written off, then yes.

Would John Jenkins and a 1st get it done?


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To quote me, would John Jenkins and a 1st be enough for Atlanta to trade for Redick?



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Atl also own houstons 2013 first and brooklyns 2014/2015 firsts, so a bit of ammo there...
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Re: Redick receiving interest from teams

Postby Cigamodnalro on Sun Jan 20, 2013 5:44 pm

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drsd wrote:
drsd wrote:WIth Lou WIlliams out, look for the Hawks to "over-pay" for a quality SG. Would Orlando send Redick to an in conference team? If the playoffs are written off, then yes.

Would John Jenkins and a 1st get it done?


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To quote me, would John Jenkins and a 1st be enough for Atlanta to trade for Redick?



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Atl also own houstons 2013 first and brooklyns 2014/2015 firsts, so a bit of ammo there...


In a draft deep in talent but without a bona fide superstar, the 16th and 19th picks might not be terrible return for JJ Redick. Could likely turn those into a pick around 10-12, which would give us a shot at one of Smart/McCollum/Burke.
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Re: Redick receiving interest from teams

Postby FFBlitzace on Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:03 pm

D12VCMagic wrote:JJ has always gotten a pass from this fanbase and I don't get it. When he plays bad, nobody brings it up. But when Afflalo plays bad, everyone whines.



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Re: Redick receiving interest from teams

Postby RookieStar on Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:17 pm

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D12VCMagic wrote:JJ has always gotten a pass from this fanbase and I don't get it. When he plays bad, nobody brings it up. But when Afflalo plays bad, everyone whines.


JJ is a living legend, he gets a lifetime pass


He is the only student left of the Great Diener. Of course he gets a pass
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Re: Redick receiving interest from teams

Postby gp123 on Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:23 am

Bensational wrote:
One thing I do like about AA, though, is how he'll get to the rim on his own. He's actually quite good at that, and if he did it more often he'd probably elevate his game a whole other level.


He's certainly as good or better then anyone we've had on the team in recent years... but I always get this mental image of the Tasmanian Devil cartoon every time he starts charging on a fast-break... He's just a wee bit out of control sometimes.
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