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Magic "have expressed interest" in trading for Rudy Gay

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Post#1 Magic "have expressed interest" in
Mon Jan 14, 2013 6:56 pm by Cigamodnalro

This was bound to happen eventually.

The Orlando Magic are one of several teams to express an interest in Memphis Grizzlies forward Rudy Gay, reports Bill Ingram of HOOPSWORLD. Ingram says "the Grizzlies are exploring Rudy Gay's trade value" and cites Magic guard J.J. Redick as one "interesting name" that's come up as they've conducted that search.


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Post#2 Re: Magic "have expressed interest"
Mon Jan 14, 2013 7:05 pm by Nyce_1

that TPE is looking rather sexy right now....
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Post#3 Re: Magic "have expressed interest"
Mon Jan 14, 2013 7:07 pm by ChosenSavior

Nyce_1 wrote:that TPE is looking rather sexy right now....


Yep indeed...
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Post#4 Re: Magic "have expressed interest"
Mon Jan 14, 2013 7:14 pm by Howard Mass

It's just a rumor which there will be lots of for the next month or so.
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Post#5 Re: Magic "have expressed interest"
Mon Jan 14, 2013 7:30 pm by Nyce_1

Howard Mass wrote:It's just a rumor which there will be lots of for the next month or so.

at least THIS season, we actually have assets to offer.
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Post#6 Re: Magic "have expressed interest"
Mon Jan 14, 2013 7:37 pm by Viper1500

Idk how I feel on this, it definitely makes us MUCH better though.
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Post#7 Re: Magic "have expressed interest"
Mon Jan 14, 2013 7:39 pm by Def Swami

This is cool. I like Rudy Gay. I hate his contract. I'm torn on this potential deal. However, I think that we may be able to play the middle man of any potential Rudy Gay deal as a 3rd team since we have that massive TPE. We may be able to come away with good draft picks and young players. Just glad to see us active.
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Post#8 Re: Magic "have expressed interest"
Mon Jan 14, 2013 7:49 pm by Greenraida

I feel like gay would be a starter for us being players in FA. Gay and our stable of youth and picks would be a good destination to end up on for any available FAs.

If we are trading away turk with the deal, I believe we will have around 6 mill to play with next season (can someone test my math?)
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Post#9 Re: Magic "have expressed interest"
Mon Jan 14, 2013 8:22 pm by Bensational

I've already stated that I'm a fan of Rudy's. But....

If the Wizards really do have Beal in the mix for trade talks (which I doubt), then I'd try to get in on that little party. I'd imagine they'd have to give up a stud like him for Gay to balance out the fact that they have little in terms of cap relief to offer - which is why I feel Memphis wouldn't take the deal, anyway.

MEM: JJ + Harkless
WAS: Gay + TPE + Harrington
ORL: Beal + Nene + Ariza

This will depend on how highly you regard Beal. He's had a very, very rough start so far, but I think he's still loaded with potential - and a well structured organisation and good veterans could really bring the best out of him. Nene's 4 year contract is a killer, but he is still a decent player, and he could very well remain as filler for a s&t. Ariza is a fill in SF for this season and next season, until we start gearing towards cap space for 2014, to build around a core of Vuc + Drew + Beal + our 2013/14 draft picks.

Washington get out of Nene's contract, and have $13M to spend on FA's this summer, to go along with their core of Wall + Gay. you add Al Jefferson/Millsap to that mix, and they'd at least be able to start winning games again, and that would make Washington happy.

Memphis get cap relief, a quality SG, and a SF prospect to groom in Gay's absence.

Vuc/Nene
BBD/Nicholson
Ariza/Hedo/Jones
Afflalo/Beal
Nelson/Moore
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Post#10 Re: Magic "have expressed interest"
Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:06 pm by Viper1500

After watching the Washington game it's obvious this team is far from being one player away from competing for anything. Rudy Gay would clog this team up financially, and make us too good to compete for a top pick in the next coming drafts.

It's a bad idea in my opinion
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Post#11 Re: Magic "have expressed interest"
Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:17 pm by Greenraida

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Post#12 Re: Magic "have expressed interest"
Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:17 pm by Greenraida

Bensational wrote:I've already stated that I'm a fan of Rudy's. But....

If the Wizards really do have Beal in the mix for trade talks (which I doubt), then I'd try to get in on that little party. I'd imagine they'd have to give up a stud like him for Gay to balance out the fact that they have little in terms of cap relief to offer - which is why I feel Memphis wouldn't take the deal, anyway.

MEM: JJ + Harkless
WAS: Gay + TPE + Harrington
ORL: Beal + Nene + Ariza

This will depend on how highly you regard Beal. He's had a very, very rough start so far, but I think he's still loaded with potential - and a well structured organisation and good veterans could really bring the best out of him. Nene's 4 year contract is a killer, but he is still a decent player, and he could very well remain as filler for a s&t. Ariza is a fill in SF for this season and next season, until we start gearing towards cap space for 2014, to build around a core of Vuc + Drew + Beal + our 2013/14 draft picks.

Washington get out of Nene's contract, and have $13M to spend on FA's this summer, to go along with their core of Wall + Gay. you add Al Jefferson/Millsap to that mix, and they'd at least be able to start winning games again, and that would make Washington happy.

Memphis get cap relief, a quality SG, and a SF prospect to groom in Gay's absence.

Vuc/Nene
BBD/Nicholson
Ariza/Hedo/Jones
Afflalo/Beal
Nelson/Moore


I don't mind Beal, as he has shown flashes of brilliance, and could eventually be good 2-3 years from now. Nenes contract though I dont really want to touch, unless we think we can trade him away to someone that needs a starting center, 13 mill for a bench player shreds our flexibility.
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Post#13 Re: Magic "have expressed interest"
Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:28 pm by NEM

Redick, turkoglu, this years pick for gay and wroten would be done so fast...
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Post#14 Re: Magic "have expressed interest" in tradin
Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:28 pm by MagicTownBaller

Bensational wrote:I've already stated that I'm a fan of Rudy's. But....

If the Wizards really do have Beal in the mix for trade talks (which I doubt), then I'd try to get in on that little party. I'd imagine they'd have to give up a stud like him for Gay to balance out the fact that they have little in terms of cap relief to offer - which is why I feel Memphis wouldn't take the deal, anyway.

MEM: JJ + Harkless
WAS: Gay + TPE + Harrington
ORL: Beal + Nene + Ariza

This will depend on how highly you regard Beal. He's had a very, very rough start so far, but I think he's still loaded with potential - and a well structured organisation and good veterans could really bring the best out of him. Nene's 4 year contract is a killer, but he is still a decent player, and he could very well remain as filler for a s&t. Ariza is a fill in SF for this season and next season, until we start gearing towards cap space for 2014, to build around a core of Vuc + Drew + Beal + our 2013/14 draft picks.

Washington get out of Nene's contract, and have $13M to spend on FA's this summer, to go along with their core of Wall + Gay. you add Al Jefferson/Millsap to that mix, and they'd at least be able to start winning games again, and that would make Washington happy.

Memphis get cap relief, a quality SG, and a SF prospect to groom in Gay's absence.

Vuc/Nene
BBD/Nicholson
Ariza/Hedo/Jones
Afflalo/Beal
Nelson/Moore

My main problem with Beal is that he's too short to play the two. He's 6'3. How can he go and guard bigger SG's?
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Post#15 Re: Magic "have expressed interest"
Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:45 pm by Orium

If it only cost us Redick + TPE/Pick then I'd be all for getting Gay. Having a player that can produce at his level while maintaining the youth core movement provided by the Howard trade would be ideal.

If they want to try including Nicholson or Harkless though, then I'd shoot it down in a second.
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Post#16 Re: Magic "have expressed interest"
Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:52 pm by Orium

Bensational wrote:I've already stated that I'm a fan of Rudy's. But....

If the Wizards really do have Beal in the mix for trade talks (which I doubt), then I'd try to get in on that little party. I'd imagine they'd have to give up a stud like him for Gay to balance out the fact that they have little in terms of cap relief to offer - which is why I feel Memphis wouldn't take the deal, anyway.

MEM: JJ + Harkless
WAS: Gay + TPE + Harrington
ORL: Beal + Nene + Ariza

This will depend on how highly you regard Beal. He's had a very, very rough start so far, but I think he's still loaded with potential - and a well structured organisation and good veterans could really bring the best out of him. Nene's 4 year contract is a killer, but he is still a decent player, and he could very well remain as filler for a s&t. Ariza is a fill in SF for this season and next season, until we start gearing towards cap space for 2014, to build around a core of Vuc + Drew + Beal + our 2013/14 draft picks.

Washington get out of Nene's contract, and have $13M to spend on FA's this summer, to go along with their core of Wall + Gay. you add Al Jefferson/Millsap to that mix, and they'd at least be able to start winning games again, and that would make Washington happy.

Memphis get cap relief, a quality SG, and a SF prospect to groom in Gay's absence.

Vuc/Nene
BBD/Nicholson
Ariza/Hedo/Jones
Afflalo/Beal
Nelson/Moore


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Post#17 Re: Magic "have expressed interest"
Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:35 pm by blue and white

Bensational wrote:I've already stated that I'm a fan of Rudy's. But....

If the Wizards really do have Beal in the mix for trade talks (which I doubt), then I'd try to get in on that little party. I'd imagine they'd have to give up a stud like him for Gay to balance out the fact that they have little in terms of cap relief to offer - which is why I feel Memphis wouldn't take the deal, anyway.

MEM: JJ + Harkless
WAS: Gay + TPE + Harrington
ORL: Beal + Nene + Ariza

This will depend on how highly you regard Beal. He's had a very, very rough start so far, but I think he's still loaded with potential - and a well structured organisation and good veterans could really bring the best out of him. Nene's 4 year contract is a killer, but he is still a decent player, and he could very well remain as filler for a s&t. Ariza is a fill in SF for this season and next season, until we start gearing towards cap space for 2014, to build around a core of Vuc + Drew + Beal + our 2013/14 draft picks.

Washington get out of Nene's contract, and have $13M to spend on FA's this summer, to go along with their core of Wall + Gay. you add Al Jefferson/Millsap to that mix, and they'd at least be able to start winning games again, and that would make Washington happy.

Memphis get cap relief, a quality SG, and a SF prospect to groom in Gay's absence.

Vuc/Nene
BBD/Nicholson
Ariza/Hedo/Jones
Afflalo/Beal
Nelson/Moore

why try and get beal when you can just get his even better clone in ben mclemore? or better yet bazz?
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Post#18 Re: Magic "have expressed interest"
Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:59 pm by ADRajX

If it's only Redick + TPE for Rudy (and filler), then I'm all for it

PG- Nelson/Moore
SG- Afflalo/Jones
SF- Gay/Harkless
PF- Davis/Nicholson
C - Vucevic

Not too bad

I don't want to give up Vucevic or Nicholson... and I don't want to give up both Afflalo AND Redick. We need to keep either one of them at SG. Of course with that all said, I doubt Memphis will ask for only Redick, and I doubt Orlando will even end up dealing for Rudy.
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Post#19 Re: Magic "have expressed interest"
Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:00 pm by Def Swami

DJRajX wrote:If it's only Redick + TPE for Rudy, then I'm all for it

PG- Nelson/Moore
SG- Afflalo/Jones
SF- Gay/Harkless
PF- Davis/Nicholson
C - Vucevic

Not too bad

Wouldn't even mind JJ+Harrington or Hedo.
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Post#20 Re: Magic "have expressed interest"
Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:02 pm by Viper1500

VGOSWAMI wrote:
DJRajX wrote:If it's only Redick + TPE for Rudy, then I'm all for it

PG- Nelson/Moore
SG- Afflalo/Jones
SF- Gay/Harkless
PF- Davis/Nicholson
C - Vucevic

Not too bad

Wouldn't even mind JJ+Harrington or Hedo.

This would definitely be the preference.
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