yardbarker

NCAA Wiretap Headlines

Harkless=DNP/CD, McRoberts=Plays 4th Q

Moderators: damo[23], Devin 1L, Hilltop, MagicMadness, Howard Mass, eyriq

Post#1 Harkless=DNP/CD, McRoberts=Plays 4th Q
Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:56 am by MagicFan32

This is ridiculous.
JV's love affair with Josh McRoberts is one of the dumbest things i've seen from a coach for this team.

Teams respect McRoberts so much they leave him WIDE OPEN on defense. "GO AHEAD JOSH, SHOOT YOUR LINE DRIVE 3'S" They said, McRoberts says "OK" they said, McRoberts bricks, we see.

Meanwhile a player who is supposed to be a major part of our future rots on the bench, while a player with no future with us gets all these important minutes, when Mo Harkless can be learning from these things by being in the situations himself.

Bottom line, i'd rather see Harkless try, and fail, than see McRoberts try and fail. JV love affair with guys like Ayon and McBob is getting out of control, is this what Henny had in mind?
aol4532 on bill russell
I think if you put McGee back then, he would get those blocks just as easily as Russell did. Russell's athleticism was well ahead of the players of his time, and that's about it.
MagicFan32
RealGM
Posts: 14,099
And1: 303
Joined: Jun 13, 2004
Top

Post#2 Re: Harkless=DNP/CD, McRoberts=Plays 4th Q
Sat Jan 19, 2013 3:02 am by Viper1500

I get you, but we've seen time and time again that Harkless is not a shooting threat, he just isn't. Once his jump shot can become more consistent I'm sure he'll be a solid rotation player on this team.
Image
Viper1500

Assistant Coach
Posts: 3,837
And1: 448
Joined: Apr 15, 2009
Location: Orlando, FL
Top

Post#3 Re: Harkless=DNP/CD, McRoberts=Plays 4th Q
Sat Jan 19, 2013 3:08 am by ~Snoopy~

fireJV.com
~Snoopy~




Veteran
User avatar
Posts: 2,675
And1: 74
Joined: May 11, 2005
Location: GN-011 Harute
Top

Post#4 Re: Harkless=DNP/CD, McRoberts=Plays 4th Q
Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:25 am by drsd

Orlando gave up 38 FT attempts and this is a thread about offense???
drsd



RealGM
User avatar
Posts: 19,644
And1: 297
Joined: Mar 15, 2003
Top

Post#5 Re: Harkless=DNP/CD, McRoberts=Plays 4th Q
Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:35 am by Cigamodnalro

I don't like this trend any more than you do, but we have no idea what's going on in practice. If Moe had earned minutes, I'm sure he'd be getting them. I think it has a lot less to do with Jacque loving McRibberts than it does some combination of Jacque wanting to play his most NBA ready guys, Hennigan advising Jacque to play specific veterans, and McRibs straight-up outworking Harkless at times in practice. Harkless will learn--he's one of the very youngest players in the league (and competitive at that--Google Harkless and Ledo). There is no denying that Harkless has looked overwhelmed or tentative at times, and as he adjusts to the league (and after Feb 15 especially), I have no doubt the NBA minutes will come.
https://twitter.com/cigamodnalro
“A house pulled down is half rebuilt” - Ancient Proverb
"There's beauty in the breakdown" - Frou Frou
"We're going to turn this team around 360 degrees" - Jason Kidd
Cigamodnalro
RealGM
User avatar
Posts: 12,374
And1: 60
Joined: Apr 10, 2006
Location: Political Asylum
Top

Post#6 Re: Harkless=DNP/CD, McRoberts=Plays 4th Q
Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:26 am by magic_turk

Trade deadline coming up ;)
Image
magic_turk
Veteran
User avatar
Posts: 2,548
And1: 4
Joined: Apr 28, 2009
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Top

Post#7 Re: Harkless=DNP/CD, McRoberts=Plays 4th Q
Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:13 am by AdamTheGreek

Harkless played a role in shutting Henderson down on Dec. 15th. Maurice's defense could have been used.
AdamTheGreek




RealGM
User avatar
Posts: 39,858
And1: 588
Joined: Dec 30, 2006
Location: Orlando/UCF. Always prefer Greece.
Top

Post#8 Re: Harkless=DNP/CD, McRoberts=Plays 4th Q
Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:58 am by MagicStarwipe

You're overreacting. Harkless will have his time when he proves he's ready. You can't just hand it to him because he's supposedly going to be a "big part" of our future. DQJ took his spot by outplaying him in practice. Harkless has work to do.
Image
MagicStarwipe

Lead Assistant
User avatar
Posts: 5,063
And1: 1,083
Joined: May 19, 2007
Top

Post#9 Re: Harkless=DNP/CD, McRoberts=Plays 4th Q
Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:08 am by KingRobb02

You don't go from starting to DNP-CD because a coach has favorites. Like others said, there's a lot we don't see that determines a young player's playing time.

Sent from my SGH-T959 using Tapatalk 2
KingRobb02




Analyst
User avatar
Posts: 3,610
And1: 329
Joined: Aug 7, 2007
Top

Post#10 Re: Harkless=DNP/CD, McRoberts=Plays 4th Q
Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:11 am by BadMofoPimp

I am sorry. I watch the games and see both play. Right now McBob >>> Harkless. McBob gives the team a better chance to win and plays a better "All-Around" game. Magic have one month to trade McBob before the trade deadline. I say play McBob 40mpg until the trade Deadline. Then, worry about Harkless once the Magic are out of playoff contention.

Your Welcome -BMP
Image

Provin Ya'll Wrong!!!
BadMofoPimp
RealGM
User avatar
Posts: 32,794
And1: 3,446
Joined: Oct 12, 2003
Location: In the Paint
Top

Post#11 Re: Harkless=DNP/CD, McRoberts=Plays 4th Q
Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:00 am by trebone

If we are talking Offense wise I am more confused that they didnt keep going to Nicholson, he was abusing anyone guarding him on the block last night.
trebone
Assistant Coach
User avatar
Posts: 4,306
And1: 91
Joined: Jun 26, 2006
Location: Ocala Fl
Top

Post#12 Re: Harkless=DNP/CD, McRoberts=Plays 4th Q
Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:37 am by Orium

There's no denying McRob looks more comfortable out there.. although, where that comes from I have no idea, because he sucks.

I'd rather watch Harkless too
Orium
Analyst
Posts: 3,530
And1: 134
Joined: Oct 8, 2003
Top

Post#13 Re: Harkless=DNP/CD, McRoberts=Plays 4th Q
Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:46 am by doct3r dr3

~Snoopy~ wrote:fireJV.com


:wavefinger:
Image
BadMofoPimp wrote:Reached for a 2nd round talent in Nicholson.
doct3r dr3

RealGM
User avatar
Posts: 11,516
And1: 722
Joined: Oct 20, 2004
Location: Nicholsonshine State
Top

Post#14 Re: Harkless=DNP/CD, McRoberts=Plays 4th Q
Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:58 am by Def Swami

McRoberts and DQJ have been playing better than Moe. I think it's as simple as that. Moe will get his time to shine in the future, hopefully.
Image
Def Swami



RealGM
User avatar
Posts: 14,175
And1: 2,123
Joined: Aug 4, 2008
Location: Orlandipo
Top

Post#15 Re: Harkless=DNP/CD, McRoberts=Plays 4th Q
Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:21 am by claudio-br

Harkless is only 19 years old - he was born on 93. Calm down, he will get his chance to play soon.
Nikola&
Aaron&
Tobias&
Victor&
Elfrid.
claudio-br
Rookie
User avatar
Posts: 1,037
And1: 257
Joined: Dec 25, 2011
Location: Rio de Janeiro, Brasil (yeah, with the s)
Top

Post#16 Re: Harkless=DNP/CD, McRoberts=Plays 4th Q
Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:30 am by D12VCMagic

Harkless has been straight up terrible so far. No offense, lost on defense and messes up rotations. The only thing he has been good for is the occasional sexy dunk or block with his raw athleticism.

I'm not saying he can't develop into a good player, but as of right now....he's trash. D-league caliber player.
D12VCMagic



Bench Warmer
Posts: 1,337
And1: 63
Joined: Sep 28, 2009
Top

Post#17 Re: Harkless=DNP/CD, McRoberts=Plays 4th Q
Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:35 am by BadMofoPimp

The thing I am most disappointed with in Harkless is his very low Basketball IQ. He is always out of position on both sides of the court. He has tremendous talent and maybe he will learn the pro game, but if you are hurting your teammates while on the court by being in the wrong position, then you are not going to last in the NBA. Harkless is young and has the rookie contract to learn the game and should not be forced into lineups because that could hurt his development more than help. Players need to learn to earn their minutes by playing smart.
Image

Provin Ya'll Wrong!!!
BadMofoPimp
RealGM
User avatar
Posts: 32,794
And1: 3,446
Joined: Oct 12, 2003
Location: In the Paint
Top

Post#18 Re: Harkless=DNP/CD, McRoberts=Plays 4th Q
Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:43 am by BaunceyChillups

because Harkless does not have to be guarded right now
BaunceyChillups
Bench Warmer
Posts: 1,446
And1: 137
Joined: Jan 30, 2009
Top

Post#19 Re: Harkless=DNP/CD, McRoberts=Plays 4th Q
Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:47 am by doct3r dr3

fun fact: maurice harkless (4-17, .235) is shooting the three better than hedo turkoglu (1-12, .083).
Image
BadMofoPimp wrote:Reached for a 2nd round talent in Nicholson.
doct3r dr3

RealGM
User avatar
Posts: 11,516
And1: 722
Joined: Oct 20, 2004
Location: Nicholsonshine State
Top

Post#20 Re: Harkless=DNP/CD, McRoberts=Plays 4th Q
Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:53 pm by Big Boss

or....or now stay with me, what if Coach is just putting a lid on Harkless so other teams won't be interested in him but when we pass the deadline then he'll be unleash huh? could be the case lol
Image

~I'm the only one that get the job done~
Big Boss
Assistant Coach
User avatar
Posts: 4,147
And1: 1,046
Joined: Oct 13, 2012
Top

Next

Return to Orlando Magic


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: fklt, MrOrlando