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Re: Harkless=DNP/CD, McRoberts=Plays 4th Q
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:30 pm
by D12VCMagic
Harkless has been straight up terrible so far. No offense, lost on defense and messes up rotations. The only thing he has been good for is the occasional sexy dunk or block with his raw athleticism.
I'm not saying he can't develop into a good player, but as of right now....he's trash. D-league caliber player.
Re: Harkless=DNP/CD, McRoberts=Plays 4th Q
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:35 pm
by BadMofoPimp
The thing I am most disappointed with in Harkless is his very low Basketball IQ. He is always out of position on both sides of the court. He has tremendous talent and maybe he will learn the pro game, but if you are hurting your teammates while on the court by being in the wrong position, then you are not going to last in the NBA. Harkless is young and has the rookie contract to learn the game and should not be forced into lineups because that could hurt his development more than help. Players need to learn to earn their minutes by playing smart.
Re: Harkless=DNP/CD, McRoberts=Plays 4th Q
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:43 pm
by BaunceyChillups
because Harkless does not have to be guarded right now
Re: Harkless=DNP/CD, McRoberts=Plays 4th Q
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:47 pm
by doct3r dr3
fun fact: maurice harkless (4-17, .235) is shooting the three better than hedo turkoglu (1-12, .083).
Re: Harkless=DNP/CD, McRoberts=Plays 4th Q
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:53 pm
by KillMonger
or....or now stay with me, what if Coach is just putting a lid on Harkless so other teams won't be interested in him but when we pass the deadline then he'll be unleash huh? could be the case lol
Re: Harkless=DNP/CD, McRoberts=Plays 4th Q
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:50 pm
by Catledge
doct3r dr3 wrote:fun fact: maurice harkless (4-17, .235) is shooting the three better than hedo turkoglu (1-12, .083).
It may indeed be a fact, but I'm not sure I would call it a "fun" one.
Re: Harkless=DNP/CD, McRoberts=Plays 4th Q
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:42 pm
by trebone
Catledge wrote:doct3r dr3 wrote:fun fact: maurice harkless (4-17, .235) is shooting the three better than hedo turkoglu (1-12, .083).
It may indeed be a fact, but I'm not sure I would call it a "fun" one.
Re: Harkless=DNP/CD, McRoberts=Plays 4th Q
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:42 pm
by p0peye
We want to trade McRoberts, right? And to do it when his value is rising, so we can actually get some value in return, not to let him expire?
What seems to be the problem with him playing? I'm confused.
Re: Harkless=DNP/CD, McRoberts=Plays 4th Q
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:21 pm
by claudio-br
Catledge wrote:doct3r dr3 wrote:fun fact: maurice harkless (4-17, .235) is shooting the three better than hedo turkoglu (1-12, .083).
It may indeed be a fact, but I'm not sure I would call it a "fun" one.
since we are not on a title run, it's no that bad
Re: Harkless=DNP/CD, McRoberts=Plays 4th Q
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:31 pm
by thelead
p0peye wrote:We want to trade McRoberts, right? And to do it when his value is rising, so we can actually get some value in return, not to let him expire?
What seems to be the problem with him playing? I'm confused.
Yup. We're not a playoff team anyway.
Re: Harkless=DNP/CD, McRoberts=Plays 4th Q
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:33 pm
by rcklsscognition
Let's talk after the trade deadline.
Re: Harkless=DNP/CD, McRoberts=Plays 4th Q
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:23 am
by magicman123
Moe isn't very good, he gets lots on rotations, and hes useless on offense, mainly because he is a very young player, he has a lot to learn, but his time will come, be patient
Re: Harkless=DNP/CD, McRoberts=Plays 4th Q
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 3:19 am
by arsenal6106
magicman123 wrote:Moe isn't very good, he gets lots on rotations, and hes useless on offense, mainly because he is a very young player, he has a lot to learn, but his time will come, be patient
Do you realize where you're posting?
Re: Harkless=DNP/CD, McRoberts=Plays 4th Q
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 3:53 am
by Reverse_Angle
KingRobb02 wrote:You don't go from starting to DNP-CD because a coach has favorites. Like others said, there's a lot we don't see that determines a young player's playing time.
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+1. Plus, I do not think rookies should be handed things either. Follow your coach's assignments and directives, if you do not, go sit on the bench. I love how JV approaches to this developing young guns issue, his primary concern is to avoid shaping rookies to an undesirable mold.
Same with Drew. You want more minutes? I do not care about your offense, you will do fine there. Just do not be a unmotivated stiff while defending and do not have mental lapses, and you will get more minutes.
Re: Harkless=DNP/CD, McRoberts=Plays 4th Q
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:30 am
by drsd
doct3r dr3 wrote:fun fact: maurice harkless (4-17, .235) is shooting the three better than hedo turkoglu (1-12, .083).
Gosh-dolly do the Magic need upgrades at the SF!
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Re: Harkless=DNP/CD, McRoberts=Plays 4th Q
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:51 pm
by happypedro12
+1. Plus, I do not think rookies should be handed things either. Follow your coach's assignments and directives, if you do not, go sit on the bench. I love how JV approaches to this developing young guns issue, his primary concern is to avoid shaping rookies to an undesirable mold.
Same with Drew. You want more minutes? I do not care about your offense, you will do fine there. Just do not be a unmotivated stiff while defending and do not have mental lapses, and you will get more minutes.
+2. I don't think JV is as anti rookie as SVG was but I think reverse is right in this aspect plus we aren't exactly shooting up the standings. It's better that the kid gets burned in practice and berated during film instead of looking like a fool in a real game and losing confidence.
With all that being said, I can't stand McRoberts.
Re: Harkless=DNP/CD, McRoberts=Plays 4th Q
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 3:04 pm
by BadMofoPimp
When in the game, it is easy to have a short term memory. You may think you are playing good when you are actually playing bad. Coach's job is to point out the flaws to show the guys the mistakes they are making. Then, let them earn the minutes they get to play.
I like McBob. He isn't playing that bad to me. People just have exhorbiant expectations. Some players are meant to be role players and not everyone is good enough to be all-stars or starters.
Re: Harkless=DNP/CD, McRoberts=Plays 4th Q
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:26 pm
by drsd
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An NBA.com story on Harkless suggests that behind the scenes, things are positive.There is the new post-up game that he is working on before practice to add to his offensive arsenal. And in shooting drills he usually shadows guard J.J. Redick in an attempt to better his stroke from afar. Then, there are those moments when he uses those seemingly elastic arms to swat more and more shots as he better learns NBA personnel.
Harkless feels there is so much more to his game that he’s eager to show, but he’s forced to be patient because he is still in the infancy of his career and there are more advanced veteran players ahead of him. For now, he knows he has to bide his time.
NBA.com LINKIt is particularly pleasant to hear him as a member of the Magic’s "Breakfast Club." (meaning he gets to the gym first).
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