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NEM wrote:What do you guys think of a Humphries and brooks trade for our tpe this summer? Adds another cheap, young piece and humphries is expiring in 2014. That's what I see hennigan doing with that tpe or at least trying to do. Either brooks or a first rounder and taylor
JBSouthpaw wrote:Zmill wrote:Who escapes the cellar first? The Bobcats or the Magic?
Both have rookie head coaches. Both have GM's from successful drafting teams. The Bobcats probably have slightly better prospects at this point (based on how they've played thus far in their NBA career it probably goes Vuc > Kemba > MKG > Biyombo > Nicholson > Harkless) . Both will probably have a top 2 pick this yr. Both have owners willing to blow money. We have better vets (not sure if that helps or hurts the tanking process).
The race of the tank?
Not sure if those were rankings of the players?
Let's see, if you put all the rookies and 2nd year players from these two teams and did a draft, I would pick them in this order:
MKG
Kemba
Vuc
Nicholson
Harkless
Biymbo
Harris
Jeff Taylor
Not drafted
Jones
O'Quinn
Head to head
MKG > Harkless
Nicholson > Biymbo
Taylor > Jones
Zmill wrote:IGotDaMagicInMe wrote:
Edit: to above post^^: I was trying to rank the players based on what they've shown thus far but it got kinda hard with certain guys who have shown so little. I consider myself a Kemba fan, but in the long run would you really want him over Vuc?
tiderulz wrote:JBSouthpaw wrote:Zmill wrote:Who escapes the cellar first? The Bobcats or the Magic?
Both have rookie head coaches. Both have GM's from successful drafting teams. The Bobcats probably have slightly better prospects at this point (based on how they've played thus far in their NBA career it probably goes Vuc > Kemba > MKG > Biyombo > Nicholson > Harkless) . Both will probably have a top 2 pick this yr. Both have owners willing to blow money. We have better vets (not sure if that helps or hurts the tanking process).
The race of the tank?
Not sure if those were rankings of the players?
Let's see, if you put all the rookies and 2nd year players from these two teams and did a draft, I would pick them in this order:
MKG
Kemba
Vuc
Nicholson
Harkless
Biymbo
Harris
Jeff Taylor
Not drafted
Jones
O'Quinn
Head to head
MKG > Harkless
Nicholson > Biymbo
Taylor > Jones
Not a big believer in MKG just yet. I think that Vuc is outplaying most if not all players on that list.
Ballah wrote:I still don't get what we gained in trading mcbob, that trade makes no sense at all.
Ballah wrote:I still don't get what we gained in trading mcbob, that trade makes no sense at all.
Ballah wrote:I still don't get what we gained in trading mcbob, that trade makes no sense at all.
JBSouthpaw wrote:Zmill wrote:IGotDaMagicInMe wrote:
Edit: to above post^^: I was trying to rank the players based on what they've shown thus far but it got kinda hard with certain guys who have shown so little. I consider myself a Kemba fan, but in the long run would you really want him over Vuc?
The 1st three are really close between Kemba, MKG and Vuc.
As much as I like Vuc, his numbers to me are the easiest to replace.
Yeah he is auto double double, but I'm not sure how much better he is going to get. He is pretty polished on offense, just lacks any dynamic physical attributes IMO. He may wined up being a better 4 than 5 because of his outside shooting. He doesn't finish via dunk enough for me.
Kemba is having a pretty decent year with not much talent around him, plus I have a premium on the PG position.
JBSouthpaw wrote:tiderulz wrote:Not a big believer in MKG just yet. I think that Vuc is outplaying most if not all players on that list.
I know what you mean, I think he has a high ceiling, but could also flatten out and be Arriza 2.0
IGotDaMagicInMe wrote:
IDK about you but I think Vuc is gonna be an Allstar eventually. He is a cornerstone piece for us.
JBSouthpaw wrote:Optimus, I hope you are right about Vuc, I'll gladly be wrong.
Robb02,
I gave the nod to the younger players Vs. O'Quinn (23yrs old vs.20), he played 4 years, while starting 3 of them in college.
Is he going to be any more than he is right now?? I'm a bit jadded on him right now, because one of the things from the Dallas game the other night still in my head is seeing Elton F*ing Brand blow by him. I don't think that should ever happen.
Losers
Orlando Magic
Things are rotten in the Magic kingdom. Using the simplest of methods (again, only using this season’s numbers and not accounting for minute allocation, positions played, depth charts, etc), the Magic suffered the largest swing in wins at the trade deadline. They traded away the most productive player in the day’s deals (J.J. Redick), and sent him away with two normally productive and currently underused big men (Gustavo Ayon and Josh McRoberts). In return, they recieved Doron Lamb and Hakim Warrick, who rank 9th and 16th in losses produced this season (that’s bad). They added salary for this season and saved practically nothing in the long run. At least they didn’t trade away Vucevic.
CraZyPraiZ wrote:I am really looking forward to watching this team develop. We have some nice young pieces and I can see Tobias and Lamb really contributing. I did not realize that is was the kid from Kentucky a couple of years ago. The kid can play so let's see what he can do if given time.
