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Post#31 Re: New Magic Lineup?
Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:24 am by JBSouthpaw

I think one of the more overlooked pluses in this trade, is receiving a true point guard.
this will allow Moore to get back up SG minutes (probably about 10-12 per game, maybe a bit more if AA is still required to log SF minutes) instead of back up PG minutes (almost 20 per game).
I do think Jones will stay in the rotation at SG & SF as well.
Except that he probably will be starting the next 3 games at PG.

I always thought JJ was more like the facilitator with the second unit, so hopefully Beno can pick up that slack.

Nelson
AA
Harkless
Nicholson
Vuc

1st sub outs
Moore for AA
O'Quinn for Vuc

I don't see us going to the full second unit like we were, because of the new players so
Beno for Nelson
AA comes back in for Harkless
Hakeem for Nicholson
Vuc back in for O'Quinn

with a sprinkle of Harris and Jones when foul or injury trouble occur.

Our starting line-up becomes are finishing line up.

I think AA will be crucial cog, he already averages 36.5 min a game. ( I looked that up, didn't realize he was on the floor THAT much)


we need 3 scorers on the court at all times, my list of scorers on this team are:
AA
Nicholson
Vuc
Moore
Nelson
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Post#32 Re: New Magic Lineup?
Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:50 am by Zmill

From a quick glance I think the rotation will be something like:

Jameer/Beno/Moore
AA/Moore/Lamb
Harkless/Harris/DQJ
Nicholson/Harris/KOQ?
Vuc/KOQ

Top 2 pick guaranteed
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Post#33 Re: New Magic Lineup?
Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:48 am by BaunceyChillups

ClashCityRocker wrote:I still haven't seen anybody explain why we traded mcroberts to CHA for nothin...all that means is that we are treated to more playing time for Nicholson who has proven to be decent at 18 ft jumpers and almost downright terrible at anything else. He's E'Twaun Moore with less scoring ability. Am I missing something? From where I stand he's a scientist that makes bone-headed plays on the court.
IMO he's looking like a terrible pick drafted solely on character. How he made it to the rookie/sophomore game I will never understand.


Andrew is the most efficient scorer on the team and actually draws fouls and gets free throws
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Post#34 Re: New Magic Lineup?
Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:08 pm by BadMofoPimp

I just wish BBD would come back to teach these young-uns how to play defense. Because, it is getting really bad out there at times.
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Post#35 Re: New Magic Lineup?
Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:06 pm by JBSouthpaw

BaunceyChillups wrote:
ClashCityRocker wrote:I still haven't seen anybody explain why we traded mcroberts to CHA for nothin...all that means is that we are treated to more playing time for Nicholson who has proven to be decent at 18 ft jumpers and almost downright terrible at anything else. He's E'Twaun Moore with less scoring ability. Am I missing something? From where I stand he's a scientist that makes bone-headed plays on the court.
IMO he's looking like a terrible pick drafted solely on character. How he made it to the rookie/sophomore game I will never understand.


Andrew is the most efficient scorer on the team and actually draws fouls and gets free throws

I think he and Vuc are pretty efficient, and once Harkless starts knocking down some of the 3s he takes, defenses will stop sagging and we can get them two more touches.
I really enjoyed how Andrew went at Dirk last game.
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Post#36 Re: New Magic Lineup?
Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:44 pm by drsd

Zmill wrote:Top 2 pick guaranteed


If Orlando finishes with the worst record; something that currently looks probable; a top-6 pick is the guarantee.
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Post#37 Re: New Magic Lineup?
Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:24 pm by MoMM

drsd wrote:
Zmill wrote:Top 2 pick guaranteed


If Orlando finishes with the worst record; something that currently looks probable; a top-6 pick is the guarantee.

It's a top 5 pick, iirc.
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Post#38 Re: New Magic Lineup?
Fri Feb 22, 2013 5:15 pm by doct3r dr3

ClashCityRocker wrote:I still haven't seen anybody explain why we traded mcroberts to CHA for nothin...all that means is that we are treated to more playing time for Nicholson who has proven to be decent at 18 ft jumpers and almost downright terrible at anything else. He's E'Twaun Moore with less scoring ability. Am I missing something? From where I stand he's a scientist that makes bone-headed plays on the court.
IMO he's looking like a terrible pick drafted solely on character. How he made it to the rookie/sophomore game I will never understand.


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Post#39 Re: New Magic Lineup?
Sat Feb 23, 2013 6:43 am by drsd

Zmill wrote:From a quick glance I think the rotation will be something like:

Jameer/Beno/Moore
AA/Moore/Lamb
Harkless/Harris/DQJ
Nicholson/Harris/KOQ?
Vuc/KOQ


GM Hennigan is quote that the team will sign a D-leaguer. As Orlando's affiliate is Sioux Falls, the O-Sen jokingly wondered if it would by 7' 5" Will Foster.
http://www.nba.com/dleague/playerfile/w ... index.html

Hmm; that would be funny to have a player on he roster whose core job is to help the team lose games.


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Post#40 Re: New Magic Lineup?
Sat Feb 23, 2013 5:22 pm by magicaroni

BaunceyChillups wrote:
ClashCityRocker wrote:I still haven't seen anybody explain why we traded mcroberts to CHA for nothin...all that means is that we are treated to more playing time for Nicholson who has proven to be decent at 18 ft jumpers and almost downright terrible at anything else. He's E'Twaun Moore with less scoring ability. Am I missing something? From where I stand he's a scientist that makes bone-headed plays on the court.
IMO he's looking like a terrible pick drafted solely on character. How he made it to the rookie/sophomore game I will never understand.


Andrew is the most efficient scorer on the team and actually draws fouls and gets free throws


Most efficient scorer on the team??? :roll:

Andrew will be a life long bench player. I wasn't a fan of his when we picked him. He runs flat footed, and lacks the athleticism and strength necessary to start in this league.

He has a decent post game, and a decent jumper. Outside of that he is below average. I'll be happy in 2 years when he is sitting behind a couple guys ahead of him on the depth chart. For now, he makes a good tank PF for the 2013-2014 season.
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Post#41 Re: New Magic Lineup?
Sat Feb 23, 2013 5:36 pm by magicaroni

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Post#42 Re: New Magic Lineup?
Sat Feb 23, 2013 6:18 pm by tiderulz

magicaroni wrote:
BaunceyChillups wrote:
ClashCityRocker wrote:I still haven't seen anybody explain why we traded mcroberts to CHA for nothin...all that means is that we are treated to more playing time for Nicholson who has proven to be decent at 18 ft jumpers and almost downright terrible at anything else. He's E'Twaun Moore with less scoring ability. Am I missing something? From where I stand he's a scientist that makes bone-headed plays on the court.
IMO he's looking like a terrible pick drafted solely on character. How he made it to the rookie/sophomore game I will never understand.


Andrew is the most efficient scorer on the team and actually draws fouls and gets free throws


Most efficient scorer on the team??? :roll:

Andrew will be a life long bench player. I wasn't a fan of his when we picked him. He runs flat footed, and lacks the athleticism and strength necessary to start in this league.

He has a decent post game, and a decent jumper. Outside of that he is below average. I'll be happy in 2 years when he is sitting behind a couple guys ahead of him on the depth chart. For now, he makes a good tank PF for the 2013-2014 season.


i love how a player does half a season and everyone thinks they have the future all mapped out and they cannot get any better. And there is a reason why many other gm's wanted Nicholson in the draft this year. Not saying he is a star or will be one, but he hasnt shown anything to warrant your opinion of him.
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Post#43 Re: New Magic Lineup?
Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:26 pm by ClashCityRocker

Okay well let us know when we're allowed to form an opinion.
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Post#44 Re: New Magic Lineup?
Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:24 pm by woosah

So i was thinking about some options and I wonder if Nicholson and Vucci should play less together. Maybe AN should play more with Kyle on the second unit so he can score as much as he wants and Kyle doesn't really look to score, just concentrate on put-backs and rebounding. I don't know though, I am just looking at playing guys so that Vucci gets more touches, but if you pair him with Toby at the 4 then that may not work either as TH looks as if he will be looking to score.
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Post#45 Re: New Magic Lineup?
Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:31 pm by BadMofoPimp

woosah wrote:So i was thinking about some options and I wonder if Nicholson and Vucci should play less together. Maybe AN should play more with Kyle on the second unit so he can score as much as he wants and Kyle doesn't really look to score, just concentrate on put-backs and rebounding. I don't know though, I am just looking at playing guys so that Vucci gets more touches, but if you pair him with Toby at the 4 then that may not work either as TH looks as if he will be looking to score.


I think Toby plays better defense and has better handles than Nicholson. That would create better ball movement for Vucci to find his spot to get open.
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Post#46 Re: New Magic Lineup?
Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:47 pm by woosah

BadMofoPimp wrote:
woosah wrote:So i was thinking about some options and I wonder if Nicholson and Vucci should play less together. Maybe AN should play more with Kyle on the second unit so he can score as much as he wants and Kyle doesn't really look to score, just concentrate on put-backs and rebounding. I don't know though, I am just looking at playing guys so that Vucci gets more touches, but if you pair him with Toby at the 4 then that may not work either as TH looks as if he will be looking to score.


I think Toby plays better defense and has better handles than Nicholson. That would create better ball movement for Vucci to find his spot to get open.


I imagine we will see a bunch of new lineups with JV feeling everyone out, but just threw it out there to see what others may have thought. I just want the Niks to get their shots.
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Post#47 Re: New Magic Lineup?
Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:04 pm by Neon1

woosah wrote: I don't know though, I am just looking at playing guys so that Vucci gets more touches, but if you pair him with Toby at the 4 then that may not work either as TH looks as if he will be looking to score.


Why does it matter if Tobias would look to score if he is the better offensive player? I want and we NEED a scorer, why does it matter which one of the young guys it turns out to be?
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Post#48 Re: New Magic Lineup?
Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:12 pm by woosah

Neon1 wrote:
woosah wrote: I don't know though, I am just looking at playing guys so that Vucci gets more touches, but if you pair him with Toby at the 4 then that may not work either as TH looks as if he will be looking to score.


Why does it matter if Tobias would look to score if he is the better offensive player? I wan't and we NEED a scorer, why does it matter which one of the young guys it turns out to be?


It doesn't really i guess. I just think Vooch can be overlooked at times and is a capable scorer also. We should look for him more.
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