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Hennigan's early success, and the Perry/Lloyd impact

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Hennigan's early success, and the Perry/Lloyd impact 

Post#1 » by Cigamodnalro » Fri Feb 22, 2013 6:29 pm

With sentiments like:
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Many league executives impressed w/ young players that front office of Rob Hennigan, Scott Perry and Matt Lloyd have assembled in Orlando. Retweeted by Cigamodnalro

it seems inevitable that eventually someone will come calling on either or both of Hennigan's guys. Perry was (and will continue to be) purportedly our point-man on trades, and Lloyd is notorious for his college basketball metrics and data accumulation. Thus far in Hennigan's early tenure, we have had one good draft and by many accounts, two good trades.

I like Hennigan and trust him as a GM, but I also think that Perry and especially Lloyd have a large hand in what this front office have accomplished thus far from a talent-evaluation standpoint. How do you think things will change should someone pursue and win away one or the other in the next few seasons?
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Post#2 » by Tayswagzzz » Fri Feb 22, 2013 6:32 pm

Too soon to talk about breaking up our big 3!
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Post#3 » by thelead » Fri Feb 22, 2013 6:37 pm

I hope those 3 can stay together. They seem like a great team.
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Post#4 » by dsg2021 » Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:51 pm

Most people who are following this intelligently are reticent to ever name our Magic FO as solely GM Hennigan, as had been done in the past with Otis.

Everyone knows this Magic FO has been a big 3 of Hennigan, Perry, and Lloyd, and a front office-wide project. The two Assistant GM hires (two is already unusual) were well reputed and touted.

The credit is there already for them is what I'm saying. And they are not done until a serious title contender is in place.
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Post#5 » by shadrock » Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:58 pm

Cigamodnalro wrote:With sentiments like:
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
Many league executives impressed w/ young players that front office of Rob Hennigan, Scott Perry and Matt Lloyd have assembled in Orlando. Retweeted by Cigamodnalro

it seems inevitable that eventually someone will come calling on either or both of Hennigan's guys. Perry was (and will continue to be) purportedly our point-man on trades, and Lloyd is notorious for his college basketball metrics and data accumulation. Thus far in Hennigan's early tenure, we have had one good draft and by many accounts, two good trades.

I like Hennigan and trust him as a GM, but I also think that Perry and especially Lloyd have a large hand in what this front office have accomplished thus far from a talent-evaluation standpoint. How do you think things will change should someone pursue and win away one or the other in the next few seasons?


I think it would be unlikely that a team would pursue Perry or Lloyd for a role greater than what they already have this soon. But i do agree that they are doing an incredible job sofar. The big thing that i think will set us apart from the pack is the amount of players we have on rookie contracts, as well as the amount of draft picks that we have accumulated (more than any other team in the league). Draft picks/rookie scale players, particularly considering the new CBA/financial climate of the league, are becoming an even more valuable asset, as they are going to be cheap skilled players who will in turn become assets later in their careers. Having cheap talent means we have more flexibility, which in turn helps with EVERYTHING. Just look at the Nets, they are a team who built the wrong way, and less that 6 months since their big FA splashes, they are looking to be a mess because they have no financial flexibility. And as soon as a team is in a situation like that with limited options to improve their team, other teams know they are desperate and the trade offers etc are WAY lower than they should be. By keeping our flexibility with cheap contracts will mean we have more control over our situation, and can build through multiple avenues (FA/Draft/Trade) rather than just one or none.
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Post#6 » by Skin » Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:00 pm

No need for us to worry until we produce a winning model. ...and yes, that's coming. :)
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Post#7 » by MagicFan32 » Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:08 pm

i wouldn't call anything success just yet, not until we get wiggins or parker ;)
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Post#8 » by blue and white » Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:32 pm

i really like lloyd
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Post#9 » by OrlandO » Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:11 pm

Even if we continue on the right track, it will be a while before one of those two get plucked from us... as fans, no use worrying about it now. I trust Hennigan will find a worthy replacement anyway.
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Post#10 » by silent1900 » Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:34 pm

I feel the need to represent the Hennigan skeptics and state that I am pretty unimpressed so far.

Feel free to carry on with your homeristic crushes now :wink:
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Post#11 » by Bensational » Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:40 pm

people won't come calling for these guys until the Magic actually start making some noise. until then, we're just like the Warriors from a few years back - a team that can stockpile youth and talent - and apart from loyalty to Otis, I can't think of any of their management being called upon for jobs.
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Post#12 » by RockEmApparel » Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:45 pm

Didn't anybody catch the 2 part series on the new braintrust?

Haven't seen it yet. Would love to. Don't have cable either. Any options you guys know of?
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Post#13 » by JF5 » Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:39 am

These guys have done a damn good job....

I'm happy with the moves. These guys are really savvy
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Post#14 » by Def Swami » Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:29 am

RockEmApparel wrote:Didn't anybody catch the 2 part series on the new braintrust?

Haven't seen it yet. Would love to. Don't have cable either. Any options you guys know of?

If you're talking about that FSN piece on the Magic and scouting, then I'd like to see that too.
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Post#15 » by arsenal6106 » Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:17 am

thelead wrote:I hope those 3 can stay together. They seem like a great team.


Overpay for these guys if we have too. Screw this idea of letting them pursue their dream of being a GM.

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Post#16 » by arsenal6106 » Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:19 am

VGOSWAMI wrote:
RockEmApparel wrote:Didn't anybody catch the 2 part series on the new braintrust?

Haven't seen it yet. Would love to. Don't have cable either. Any options you guys know of?

If you're talking about that FSN piece on the Magic and scouting, then I'd like to see that too.


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Post#17 » by glennathan » Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:11 am

VGOSWAMI wrote:
RockEmApparel wrote:Didn't anybody catch the 2 part series on the new braintrust?

Haven't seen it yet. Would love to. Don't have cable either. Any options you guys know of?

If you're talking about that FSN piece on the Magic and scouting, then I'd like to see that too.


I have watched it 2 times. Very interesting.
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Post#18 » by Cigamodnalro » Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:09 pm

glennathan wrote:
VGOSWAMI wrote:
RockEmApparel wrote:Didn't anybody catch the 2 part series on the new braintrust?

Haven't seen it yet. Would love to. Don't have cable either. Any options you guys know of?

If you're talking about that FSN piece on the Magic and scouting, then I'd like to see that too.


I have watched it 2 times. Very interesting.

If you (anyone) can find a way to rip it to the interwebs, I'd pay for a link or attachment
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Post#19 » by glennathan » Sun Feb 24, 2013 11:23 am

Here is part 2 to the segment of scouting. Trying to find part 1. This was on YouTube.


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Post#20 » by fendilim » Sun Feb 24, 2013 11:50 am

Impossible if they dont have understudies...
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