Victory Sweater Vest #1 Magic: 91 Sixers: 89

Post #41 » by **ChosenSavior** » Thu Nov 6, 2014 3:34 pm

flying_mollusk wrote:Didn't get a chance to watch the game. What did Elf do?

He played amazing defense and dropped some amazing passes in the 4th that got his teammates easy looks.

OrlandO · Post #42 » by **OrlandO** » Thu Nov 6, 2014 3:40 pm

Elfrid Payton highlights vs Sixers. He turned up the defense for this one. 8 pts, 5 ast, 6 reb, 4 stl, 1 blk.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX_dThJaef8[/youtube]

This play is missing from the clip.

Bonus Aaron Gordon reverse dunk

purpleswordfish · Post #43 » by **purpleswordfish** » Thu Nov 6, 2014 3:49 pm

Elfrid Payton for filling up the stat sheet, providing the Magic with some very solid defense and for hilariously getting in Wroten's head. Seriously, I thought Wroten was going to swing on Elf a couple times.

flying_mollusk · Post #44 » by **flying_mollusk** » Thu Nov 6, 2014 3:52 pm

Can you imagine how good he is going to be when he develops that shot? He is going to be able to create points for us like few PGs can.

Also, how good is our back court going to be defensively when Oladipo comes back?

HeartAndHustle · Post #45 » by **HeartAndHustle** » Thu Nov 6, 2014 4:33 pm

Where do I vote for that Megan pic? Although I do like the new FSN girl working in place of Blaylock.

Viper1500 · Post #46 » by **Viper1500** » Thu Nov 6, 2014 4:38 pm

nicnac215 · Post #47 » by **nicnac215** » Thu Nov 6, 2014 4:47 pm

flying_mollusk wrote:Can you imagine how good he is going to be when he develops that shot? He is going to be able to create points for us like few PGs can.

Also, how good is our back court going to be defensively when Oladipo comes back?

I would not trade dipo payton for kyrie dion, beal wall, or derozan lowry. best up and coming back court in the eastern conference.

JBSouthpaw · Post #48 » by **JBSouthpaw** » Thu Nov 6, 2014 6:40 pm

the Elf should get more than a sweater!!

Catledge · Post #49 » by **Catledge** » Thu Nov 6, 2014 6:52 pm

If Harris or Vooch posted a stat line of 8 pts, 6 rebs, 5 asts, 4 stls, and 4 TOs while letting a nobody light him up for 27 points, people would be calling for his head.

I love EP and am optimistic about his future, but against Philly he contributed to our struggles as much as he did to our success.

j-ragg · Post #50 » by **j-ragg** » Thu Nov 6, 2014 7:09 pm

Catledge wrote:If Harris or Vooch posted a stat line of 8 pts, 6 rebs, 5 asts, 4 stls, and 4 TOs while letting a nobody light him up for 27 points, people would be calling for his head.

I love EP and am optimistic about his future, but against Philly he contributed to our struggles as much as he did to our success.

Let's not forget Wroten's 9 turnovers, Payton might've had a little something to do with that 8-)

Post #51 » by **SOUL** » Thu Nov 6, 2014 7:13 pm

If you watched the game (you didn't), Wroten had 12 points in Ridnour's 20 minutes - I re-checked the box scores.

That's effectively 15 points against a lineup with Payton in it (it's not PG vs PG when it comes to points period either) - he forced him into about 5-6 turnovers and Sixers fans were lamenting how he owned him a lot of the night.

Look a bit beyond the box score please.

Post #52 » by **SOUL** » Thu Nov 6, 2014 7:15 pm

Of course attributing it all to Payton can make your point sound better, but it's false.

OrlDave · Post #53 » by **OrlDave** » Thu Nov 6, 2014 7:34 pm

Yeah I get the feeling the people voting for Harris didn't actually watch the game. Except for the final shot, Harris' production came within the flow of the game whereas Payton changed the game when we needed it most. Sometimes stats tell the story, other times they do not.

tooler · Post #54 » by **tooler** » Thu Nov 6, 2014 7:49 pm

I don't want to cause a big ruckus because I generally like Tobias, but 3-4 possessions prior to the winning shot, he tried one of the worst heroball drives I've ever seen. Just a straight-ahead baseline drive to the basket with 2 defenders there. He may have been blocked, I don't recall. At the time I posted: "So selfish." I think he'd be the first to admit he owed the team a big shot after that one.

JBSouthpaw · Post #55 » by **JBSouthpaw** » Thu Nov 6, 2014 8:21 pm

tooler wrote:I don't want to cause a big ruckus because I generally like Tobias, but 3-4 possessions prior to the winning shot, he tried one of the worst heroball drives I've ever seen. Just a straight-ahead baseline drive to the basket with 2 defenders there. He may have been blocked, I don't recall. At the time I posted: "So selfish." I think he'd be the first to admit he owed the team a big shot after that one.

that was bad, Vuc also tried about a 12 ft. hookshot in there too.

Orlwillbeback · Post #56 » by **Orlwillbeback** » Thu Nov 6, 2014 8:26 pm

tooler wrote:I don't want to cause a big ruckus because I generally like Tobias, but 3-4 possessions prior to the winning shot, he tried one of the worst heroball drives I've ever seen. Just a straight-ahead baseline drive to the basket with 2 defenders there. He may have been blocked, I don't recall. At the time I posted: "So selfish." I think he'd be the first to admit he owed the team a big shot after that one.

Its the end of the game someone has to take the shot obviously.

drsd · Post #57 » by **drsd** » Thu Nov 6, 2014 8:39 pm

Catledge wrote:If Harris or Vooch posted a stat line of 8 pts, 6 rebs, 5 asts, 4 stls, and 4 TOs while letting a nobody light him up for 27 points, people would be calling for his head.

I love EP and am optimistic about his future, but against Philly he contributed to our struggles as much as he did to our success.

Payton's steals all felt like game changers as and when they happened. For this young gun, his game this year will be on defense. He brang it this night.

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Catledge · Post #58 » by **Catledge** » Thu Nov 6, 2014 9:28 pm

j-ragg wrote:
Catledge wrote:If Harris or Vooch posted a stat line of 8 pts, 6 rebs, 5 asts, 4 stls, and 4 TOs while letting a nobody light him up for 27 points, people would be calling for his head.

I love EP and am optimistic about his future, but against Philly he contributed to our struggles as much as he did to our success.

Let's not forget Wroten's 9 turnovers, Payton might've had a little something to do with that

27 points by the worst starting pg in the league. Seriously, imagine the rants that people would go on if Vooch or Harris let a no-name go off like that.

Post #59 » by **SOUL** » Thu Nov 6, 2014 9:34 pm

Catledge wrote:
j-ragg wrote:
Catledge wrote:If Harris or Vooch posted a stat line of 8 pts, 6 rebs, 5 asts, 4 stls, and 4 TOs while letting a nobody light him up for 27 points, people would be calling for his head.

I love EP and am optimistic about his future, but against Philly he contributed to our struggles as much as he did to our success.

Let's not forget Wroten's 9 turnovers, Payton might've had a little something to do with that

27 points by the worst starting pg in the league. Seriously, imagine the rants that people would go on if Vooch or Harris let a no-name go off like that.

read a few posts up

ezzzp · Post #60 » by **ezzzp** » Thu Nov 6, 2014 9:39 pm

very few players control a game without scoring...its a small sample but Elfrid looks to be one of those guys.

When Dipo gets back, there will be no rest for the opposing guards...can not wait to see that

First Victory of the Season!!!