flying_mollusk wrote:Magic_Time wrote:flying_mollusk wrote:I think we have to just be patient. We have the pieces. It's just going to take time for them to develop. Ill repeat what I said in another thread. Vic is 22, Harris is 22, Vuc is 24 and Fournier is 22. If we win 35 games with that core, that's a huge stride. That means we will be playoff contenders next year, and then can go up from there. What I think hurt us early on was Vic's injury. It really took away his offseason work and his ability to solidify chemistry with some of the guys. I think it will come.
As for the PF issue, I also think the plan is ultimately for Gordon to take over in 1-2 years from Frye. Notice how many 3s Gordon has been shooting? I think they want to develop him into the same mold as a stretch 4 that can play with Harris and, on defense, take the better player at the PF/SF spot. Teams are going to struggle like hell if their PF has to guard either Harris or Gordon while getting no advantage on the other end.
Look at it another way. Our schedule has been rough with a lot of road games. But we are nowhere close to some of the other lower level teams. Philly has a negative 16 point differential (!!), LA has a -8 point differential. Minnesota is -7. We are at -3.3 so far. That would put us somewhere around where Sacramento and New Orleans were last year. Those two teams are competing for playoffs in the west this year.
I understand everything you just said. i know we not far from being good, the problem is that I like Gordon more as a SF than a PF.. Lemme open all of your eyes to something most of us if any have not pay attention to, for the past 3-4 years the last 4 teams standing in the west and east finals they all have one thing in common.. They all have a very good to great SFs.. Either a 2 way SF, or a defensive SF or a more advance offensive one.. However most of them were almost 2 way.. James, Durant, Leonard and P.George. On our team we wont stand a chance against them in the finals with Harris, thats why my hope is on Gordon and Harkless to stand a chance aginst those guys more defensively.. thats why i feel like we need a 2 way PF next to Vuc and Gordon, like that we can contend more year in and out..
I don't think we should lock in on one specific aspect of championship teams and decide that's how it has to be. The Mavs had Marion/Butler as their SFs when they won. Keep in mind, Im saying we do have a defensive SF in Gordon. But he should be able to play with Harris in a dynamic set. Gordon can guard the Durant or Lebron, but then play stretch 4 on offense.
I got u, thats exactly how i feel.. people be saying our league is a scoring first point Guard driven league now and talented undersize PFs which is true but i feel like we should counter it with a passing first defensive guard and a twin tower at the post. We just missing that 6'10- 6'11 2 way PF, like a more defensive Aldrige.. .. Remember Marion/Butler were not bad at the time, we dont need a scoring SF we just need a Defensive one to counter the more talented scoring SFs like Durant and james and Carmelo even P.George..