2/22 - Philadelphia @ Orlando-- aka Elf Day!

orlando1214 · Post #521 » by **orlando1214** » Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:40 am

Dante needs to stop asking that question after every game against Philly. Vuc got traded a while ago, I doubt he really held a grudge anyways, but he's definitely over it by now.

MostValuableGM · Post #522 » by **MostValuableGM** » Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:41 am

Props to Vucc for opening up about his dad! Glad I caught the end of this game - love that we didn't collapse when things went bad and now "The Rookies"" is on - anyway I can see this if I live in NY -this sucks.

TreasureCoast · Post #523 » by **TreasureCoast** » Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:43 am

Wish we were 5-1 with JB smh

MoMM · Post #524 » by **MoMM** » Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:43 am

akhenaten wrote:
Bensational wrote:
shadrock wrote:Sitting Elf is a joke. If they want to foul him, let them foul him. If he hits 50% from the FT line, that's the EXACT SAME OUTCOME as him hitting 50% from the field. Not to mention what he offers for us on defense, and also for the rest of out offense. What a joke. Terrible coaching.

it's not, though. it's 1 point versus 2 points.

at this point, you're not looking for shots you've got 50% chance on. you want high % chances.

Yes, but the 1 point on the free throw is on only one possession -- whereas the 2 points for FGs would presumably be on two possessions, one make and one miss, for an average of 1 point per possession.

In fact it's better to score 2-4 in FTs than 1-2 in FG, because the opposite player will have more chances to be fouled out.

KillMonger · Post #525 » by **KillMonger** » Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:46 am

another one bites the dust, JB and the players building chemistry. Vuc for the vest for sure, dude is really coming into his own and if we improve as a team next season like we should he'll definitely be an All-star Next season.

Post #526 » by **SOUL** » Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:47 am

JB was fine besides AG not getting run early and the late timeout/taking elfrid out

Driguez · Post #527 » by **Driguez** » Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:47 am

So we won? Yes?

AddiFB · Post #528 » by **AddiFB** » Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:48 am

"Ha.ha.ha.ha"
- Jeff Turner

:banghead:

That is all.

tooler · Post #529 » by **tooler** » Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:48 am

Weird game. I skipped most of the second and third quarters. Not sure I'll bother. Didn't seem like there was a lot of flow to it and strange rotations.

Credit to Philly for hitting their 3s. Obviously the gameplan was to protect the paint. I think they only had 4 points there in the first half. It broke down late in the game when they got desperate but I'll take it.

j_n · Post #530 » by **j_n** » Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:48 am

MagicFan32 wrote:Someone ask gallagherart how defensive beast noel just got obliterated by vuccimane

Noel has a ton of potential on the defensive end, he makes plays that no other big can make but I think its clear that hes a very poor defender right now.

MoMM · Post #531 » by **MoMM** » Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:49 am

Big Boss wrote:another one bites the dust, JB and the players building chemistry. Vuc for the vest for sure, dude is really coming into his own and if we improve as a team next season like we should he'll definitely be an All-star Next season.

Had Bosh got sick two weeks sooner, Vuc would be an All-Star this season, IMO.

Gomagic44 · Post #532 » by **Gomagic44** » Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:50 am

Who is tata McGee interviewing willie? Dayam

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tooler · Post #533 » by **tooler** » Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:51 am

j_n wrote:
MagicFan32 wrote:Someone ask gallagherart how defensive beast noel just got obliterated by vuccimane

Noel has a ton of potential on the defensive end, he makes plays that no other big can make but I think its clear that hes a very poor defender right now.

I'm surprised he didn't have 10 blocks against our weak finishers. I didn't watch all 4 quarters but it seemed like the Magic were making the extra pass in the paint? Maybe that helped.

Post #534 » by **Bensational** » Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:51 am

akhenaten wrote:
Bensational wrote:
shadrock wrote:Sitting Elf is a joke. If they want to foul him, let them foul him. If he hits 50% from the FT line, that's the EXACT SAME OUTCOME as him hitting 50% from the field. Not to mention what he offers for us on defense, and also for the rest of out offense. What a joke. Terrible coaching.

it's not, though. it's 1 point versus 2 points.

at this point, you're not looking for shots you've got 50% chance on. you want high % chances.

Yes, but the 1 point on the free throw is on only one possession -- whereas the 2 points for FGs would presumably be on two possessions, one make and one miss, for an average of 1 point per possession.

i'll take a Vuc at the rim attempt over a FT any day, because Vuc shoots over 50% from there.

don't you think that if the 50% FT shooter was a successful option, you'd see more teams dumping the ball to guys like Dwight to close out games?

not that i mind either way, because i agree that Payton should be out there regardless of FT concerns.

Kev_bundles · Post #535 » by **Kev_bundles** » Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:53 am

I'm happy they kept fouling elf and that force JB to sub him out till the 2 min mark,hope that gets a message to elf that he really needs to improve his FT or change his shooting form over the summer !

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MoMM · Post #536 » by **MoMM** » Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:53 am

Bensational wrote:
akhenaten wrote:
Bensational wrote:
it's not, though. it's 1 point versus 2 points.

at this point, you're not looking for shots you've got 50% chance on. you want high % chances.

Yes, but the 1 point on the free throw is on only one possession -- whereas the 2 points for FGs would presumably be on two possessions, one make and one miss, for an average of 1 point per possession.

i'll take a Vuc at the rim attempt over a FT any day, because Vuc shoots over 50% from there.

don't you think that if the 50% FT shooter was a successful option, you'd see more teams dumping the ball to guys like Dwight to close out games?

not that i mind either way, because i agree that Payton should be out there regardless of FT concerns.

Shooting 50% won't make you shot 1-2 all the time. They hacked D12 because they knew that in the end of the game, he would be tired and shot a even worse %. Also, you stop the clock, so you can have more plays to shot crazy 3s to make the difference smaller.

shadrock · Post #537 » by **shadrock** » Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:53 am

akhenaten wrote:
Bensational wrote:
shadrock wrote:Sitting Elf is a joke. If they want to foul him, let them foul him. If he hits 50% from the FT line, that's the EXACT SAME OUTCOME as him hitting 50% from the field. Not to mention what he offers for us on defense, and also for the rest of out offense. What a joke. Terrible coaching.

it's not, though. it's 1 point versus 2 points.

at this point, you're not looking for shots you've got 50% chance on. you want high % chances.

Yes, but the 1 point on the free throw is on only one possession -- whereas the 2 points for FGs would presumably be on two possessions, one make and one miss, for an average of 1 point per possession.

Yeah its the exact same thing. 50% free throws in every possession is a great outcome.

GallagherArt · Post #538 » by **GallagherArt** » Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:54 am

MagicFan32 wrote:Someone ask gallagherart how defensive beast noel just got obliterated by vuccimane

Wtf? Lol, well, Noel's a rookie, his every instinct is to jump to block every shot. That's not going to be effective against every player, it's more so against post oriented big men that don't force Noel to step out to guard them. Also, being so springy won't work against such an astute a rebounder as Vucevic is. Noel should have chosen his opportunities better and attempt to box out more, but again, he's a rookie and every shot that goes up looks like an opportunity to him.

I'm assuming you've seen my posts in the impressions thread, I cite statistics and such to validate Noel being a defensive beast. Getting embarrassed against a specific type of player that he has to learn to play against doesn't dissuade the numbers.

Nyce_1 · Post #539 » by **Nyce_1** » Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:54 am

Beast_Reality wrote:Wish we were 5-1 with JB smh

kills me every time thinking about it.

doct3r dr3 · Post #540 » by **doct3r dr3** » Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:55 am

rcklsscognition wrote:
Gomagic44 wrote:
rcklsscognition wrote:38.9 passes a game, 129 total assists, 5 assist opportunities a game, 8.1 points by assist per 48
36.4 passes a game, 96 total assists, 3.5 assist opportunities a game, 6.3 points by assist per 48
35.9 passes a game, 120 total assists, 6.1 assist opportunities a game, 9.8 points by assist per 48

Who's who?

Elf

Dipo

Willie?

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No chance without a hint. 3 SFs, one on our team.

I am going to guess:

Chandler Parsons
Tobias Harris
Carmelo Anthony

?

.... ;-)