THE Aaron Gordon thread
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Gordon seems to have displaced Frye. Good news indeed.
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Elf being abysmal at the rim doesn't worry me too much, if you watched him play all season you know why that is; he got blocked half the damn time. It's a matter of being craftier with his release, not the actual ability to make open Layups, he was a rookie it's not that worrisome.
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stop with the Elf talk in here lol take that somewhere else
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"no one works harder than aaron gordon" ~ Hennigan
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Immature Luigi wrote:stop with the Elf talk in here lol take that somewhere else
Yeah,seriously. How can those who are worried about him, not see that he will be a great PG one day?? He is still very young, but I see it.
BTW, cool sig!
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Yeah.. what's your height dude? I wann see how big AG has become.
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Aaron Gordon is young and keeps on growing. He must be at least 7 foot tall!!!
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It depends how tall is the poster himself. I mean if he is hobbit-size I would say AG looks kinda noraml..
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I woulda stood on my tippee toes. Just sayin. (joking!)
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What? You seem to never understand my points, or it is that you try so hard to disagree that you ignore my points and make **** up. Grade a rookie on a scale compared to other rookies. That is my point, the common sense I refer to.
Neon1 wrote:eyriq wrote:Bensational wrote:
there wasn't actually any question, there were just statements. one statement was that Payton is a bad finisher. in the context of "other developing PGs", you can see that he's starting out where plenty of other great PGs started. but if you choose to look through the context of "i'm a hater and i don't give a ****, i want him to be MVP right now or get off my teammmmmm!!!" then, sure, i guess you can say he sucks.
Wow finally this take is gaining traction. Common sense prevails!
This is not common sense at all.
In terms of analyzing shooting ability, you don't simply look at a FG% and conclude that all 43% are all created equal. If you could simply stop at FG% you could argue that Dwayne Dedmon is a better shooter then Mario Hezona, Channing Frye or Evan Fournier.
Elfrid Payton shot .425 overall. Payton shot only .435 on 2ptFGA while only shooting from an average distance of 6.9 feetfrom the rim. . That is uncharted territory for a player that logged that many minutes. Payton shot only 51.5% from 0-3 feet, which includes all his open transition layups and dunks (0-3ft gets inflated because of transition layups etc), so he had to have been absolutely abysmal in traffic for his at the rim to be that low.
Combining all that with his .551 FT% he is overall among the worst all around shooters of time among starting point guard. Look at the players listed (the first number is average shooting distance) who almost were really bad shooters also.
16.0 Dame Lillard - .469 on 2's, .368 on 3's, .844 on FT's.
15.5 Kemba Walker - .392 on 2's, .305 on 3's, .789 on FT's.
15.0 Deron Williams - .423 on 2's, .416 on 3's, .704 on FT's.
13.6 Jason Kidd - .433 on 2's, .272 on 3's, .698 on FT's.
12.7 Tony Parker - .460 on 2's, .323 on 3's, .675 on FT's.
12.4 Victor Oladipo - .448 on 2's, .327 on 3's, .780 on FT's.
11.3 Chris Paul - .464 on 2's, .282 on 3's, .847 on FT's.
11.0 John Wall - .425 on 2's, .296 on 3's, .766 on FT's.
10.6 Michael Carter Williams - .440 on 2's, .264 on 3's, .703 on FT's.
09.5 Russell Westbrook - .415 on 2's, .271 on 3's, .815 on FT's.
06.9 Elfrid Payton - .435 on 2's, .262 on 3's, .551 on FT's.
Trying to make the argument that Payton's shooting was simply par for the course is just as delusional as saying that I am as good of a sniper rifleman because I can hit a target from 10ft away while he is doing the same or at only a slightly better rate from 700ft.
What? You seem to never understand my points, or it is that you try so hard to disagree that you ignore my points and make **** up. Grade a rookie on a scale compared to other rookies. That is my point, the common sense I refer to.
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eyriq wrote:SNeon1 wrote:eyriq wrote:
Wow finally this take is gaining traction. Common sense prevails!
This is not common sense at all.
In terms of analyzing shooting ability, you don't simply look at a FG% and conclude that all 43% are all created equal. If you could simply stop at FG% you could argue that Dwayne Dedmon is a better shooter then Mario Hezona, Channing Frye or Evan Fournier.
Elfrid Payton shot .425 overall. Payton shot only .435 on 2ptFGA while only shooting from an average distance of 6.9 feetfrom the rim. . That is uncharted territory for a player that logged that many minutes. Payton shot only 51.5% from 0-3 feet, which includes all his open transition layups and dunks (0-3ft gets inflated because of transition layups etc), so he had to have been absolutely abysmal in traffic for his at the rim to be that low.
Combining all that with his .551 FT% he is overall among the worst all around shooters of time among starting point guard. Look at the players listed (the first number is average shooting distance) who almost were really bad shooters also.
16.0 Dame Lillard - .469 on 2's, .368 on 3's, .844 on FT's.
15.5 Kemba Walker - .392 on 2's, .305 on 3's, .789 on FT's.
15.0 Deron Williams - .423 on 2's, .416 on 3's, .704 on FT's.
13.6 Jason Kidd - .433 on 2's, .272 on 3's, .698 on FT's.
12.7 Tony Parker - .460 on 2's, .323 on 3's, .675 on FT's.
12.4 Victor Oladipo - .448 on 2's, .327 on 3's, .780 on FT's.
11.3 Chris Paul - .464 on 2's, .282 on 3's, .847 on FT's.
11.0 John Wall - .425 on 2's, .296 on 3's, .766 on FT's.
10.6 Michael Carter Williams - .440 on 2's, .264 on 3's, .703 on FT's.
09.5 Russell Westbrook - .415 on 2's, .271 on 3's, .815 on FT's.
06.9 Elfrid Payton - .435 on 2's, .262 on 3's, .551 on FT's.
Trying to make the argument that Payton's shooting was simply par for the course is just as delusional as saying that I am as good of a sniper rifleman because I can hit a target from 10ft away while he is doing the same or at only a slightly better rate from 700ft.
What? You seem to never understand my points, or it is that you try so hard to disagree that you ignore my points and make **** up. Grade a rookie on a scale compared to other rookies. That is my point, the common sense I refer to.
These are all rookie numbers up there Eyriq.
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Neon1 wrote:eyriq wrote:SNeon1 wrote:
This is not common sense at all.
In terms of analyzing shooting ability, you don't simply look at a FG% and conclude that all 43% are all created equal. If you could simply stop at FG% you could argue that Dwayne Dedmon is a better shooter then Mario Hezona, Channing Frye or Evan Fournier.
Elfrid Payton shot .425 overall. Payton shot only .435 on 2ptFGA while only shooting from an average distance of 6.9 feetfrom the rim. . That is uncharted territory for a player that logged that many minutes. Payton shot only 51.5% from 0-3 feet, which includes all his open transition layups and dunks (0-3ft gets inflated because of transition layups etc), so he had to have been absolutely abysmal in traffic for his at the rim to be that low.
Combining all that with his .551 FT% he is overall among the worst all around shooters of time among starting point guard. Look at the players listed (the first number is average shooting distance) who almost were really bad shooters also.
16.0 Dame Lillard - .469 on 2's, .368 on 3's, .844 on FT's.
15.5 Kemba Walker - .392 on 2's, .305 on 3's, .789 on FT's.
15.0 Deron Williams - .423 on 2's, .416 on 3's, .704 on FT's.
13.6 Jason Kidd - .433 on 2's, .272 on 3's, .698 on FT's.
12.7 Tony Parker - .460 on 2's, .323 on 3's, .675 on FT's.
12.4 Victor Oladipo - .448 on 2's, .327 on 3's, .780 on FT's.
11.3 Chris Paul - .464 on 2's, .282 on 3's, .847 on FT's.
11.0 John Wall - .425 on 2's, .296 on 3's, .766 on FT's.
10.6 Michael Carter Williams - .440 on 2's, .264 on 3's, .703 on FT's.
09.5 Russell Westbrook - .415 on 2's, .271 on 3's, .815 on FT's.
06.9 Elfrid Payton - .435 on 2's, .262 on 3's, .551 on FT's.
Trying to make the argument that Payton's shooting was simply par for the course is just as delusional as saying that I am as good of a sniper rifleman because I can hit a target from 10ft away while he is doing the same or at only a slightly better rate from 700ft.
What? You seem to never understand my points, or it is that you try so hard to disagree that you ignore my points and make **** up. Grade a rookie on a scale compared to other rookies. That is my point, the common sense I refer to.
These are all rookie numbers up there Eyriq.
I swear you are trolling me.
eyriq wrote:Wow finally this take is gaining traction. Common sense prevails!
This is not common sense at all.
eyriq wrote:Grade a rookie on a scale compared to other rookies.
These are all rookie numbers up there Eyriq.