2015 Draft: Prospect Tracker (Part 2)
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Nyce_1 wrote:I keep thinking about an interview Rob did a few weeks back and stated they'll always bet on a player to improve his shooting if he's athletically gift and showed strong work ethic and strong willingness to get better.
This is why I think Winslow is his guy.
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Not to mention plenty of players who have come in lacking a consistent jumper have improved to become respectable.eyriq wrote:Nyce_1 wrote:I keep thinking about an interview Rob did a few weeks back and stated they'll always bet on a player to improve his shooting if he's athletically gift and showed strong work ethic and strong willingness to get better.
This is why I think Winslow is his guy.
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Blue_and_Whte wrote:Not to mention plenty of players who have come in lacking a consistent jumper have improved to become respectable.eyriq wrote:Nyce_1 wrote:I keep thinking about an interview Rob did a few weeks back and stated they'll always bet on a player to improve his shooting if he's athletically gift and showed strong work ethic and strong willingness to get better.
This is why I think Winslow is his guy.
i would say more players have failed to get that consistent jumper than have succeeded.
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Nyce_1 wrote:I keep thinking about an interview Rob did a few weeks back and stated they'll always bet on a player to improve his shooting if he's athletically gift and showed strong work ethic and strong willingness to get better.
so far this strategy has failed.
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eyriq wrote:Nyce_1 wrote:I keep thinking about an interview Rob did a few weeks back and stated they'll always bet on a player to improve his shooting if he's athletically gift and showed strong work ethic and strong willingness to get better.
This is why I think Winslow is his guy.
same could be said for WCS, for Hezonja, for Mudiay.
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Orlwillbeback wrote:Nyce_1 wrote:I keep thinking about an interview Rob did a few weeks back and stated they'll always bet on a player to improve his shooting if he's athletically gift and showed strong work ethic and strong willingness to get better.
so far this strategy has failed.
How so? Oladipo has improved from 3 and has improved as a finisher at the rim. Gordon has shown improvement. Honestly it's still early. We've only had these guys for a short period. Too early to tell if they will turn it around but they have shown signs of improvement.
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tiderulz wrote:Blue_and_Whte wrote:Not to mention plenty of players who have come in lacking a consistent jumper have improved to become respectable.eyriq wrote:
This is why I think Winslow is his guy.
i would say more players have failed to get that consistent jumper than have succeeded.
I think people see Leonard and Butler improve as shooters and think any player with athleticism can learn how to shoot, it's a tough task to take a guy who is a horrible shooter and make that a strength.
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I am going to be livid if we draft another wing who cant shoot. Please no to Winslow
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First of all he isn't a horrible shooter. Not only the guys you mentioned but also Westbrook, Wall, and Rose to certain a certain extended and those are just modern Era guys. it has nothing to do with athleticism. It has to do with NBA coaches training with guys who don't have a broken shot and making them better 3 pt shooters. It happens all the time.Truth24 wrote:tiderulz wrote:Blue_and_Whte wrote:Not to mention plenty of players who have come in lacking a consistent jumper have improved to become respectable.
i would say more players have failed to get that consistent jumper than have succeeded.
I think people see Leonard and Butler improve as shooters and think any player with athleticism can learn how to shoot, it's a tough task to take a guy who is a horrible shooter and make that a strength.
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eyriq wrote:Nyce_1 wrote:I keep thinking about an interview Rob did a few weeks back and stated they'll always bet on a player to improve his shooting if he's athletically gift and showed strong work ethic and strong willingness to get better.
This is why I think Winslow is his guy.
Considering what happen last year at #12 and the possible availability of the #4 pick for trade up this year, I have a hard time believing he is making any real indication of our targeted player or targeted player skill set in a interview two weeks before the draft. He knows better than that, more likely I would completely ignore or at least be open to the opposite of whatever he mentioned. Personally I think it has all just been smokescreen and the pick will be Hezonja if he is even still on the board at #5. But if the attitude issues are to much concern, bring on the best of winslow, KP, or wcs.
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Blue_and_Whte wrote:IFirst of all he isn't a horrible shooter. Not only the guys you mentioned but also Westbrook, Wall, and Rose to certain a certain extended and those are just modern Era guys. it has nothing to do with athleticism. It has to do with NBA coaches training with guys who don't have a broken shot and making them better 3 pt shooters. It happens all the time.Truth24 wrote:tiderulz wrote:
i would say more players have failed to get that consistent jumper than have succeeded.
I think people see Leonard and Butler improve as shooters and think any player with athleticism can learn how to shoot, it's a tough task to take a guy who is a horrible shooter and make that a strength.
Yes he is a horrible shooter and that is undisputed facts he shoots horrible from everywhere on the court but two spots and even is a bad free throw shooter so yes he is a horrible shooter. I know it has nothing to do with athleticism but just as many guys who have improved have also not improved shooting quite that much and while Rose, Westbrook, and Wall all have improved nobody is considering them threats at all. Rose had a terrible year shooting, Wall is a decent mid range shooter but not so hot from deep, and Westbrook is the definition of streaky.
Can Winslow improve his shooting...Yes, but it is a long road for him in that department and is not some guaranteed thing and for that I would much rather take a player of similar traits but already better shooting the ball.
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Here are a couple guys we could look at later if we don't take a power forward at five.
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eyriq wrote:Nyce_1 wrote:I keep thinking about an interview Rob did a few weeks back and stated they'll always bet on a player to improve his shooting if he's athletically gift and showed strong work ethic and strong willingness to get better.
This is why I think Winslow is his guy.
I think so too. I Wouldn't be surprised if Hennigan thinks Winslow can become a serviceable spot up shooter some day.
But a strong case can be made for WCS and Porzingis fitting Hennigan's criteria as well.
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how about some richaun Holmes. 2nd round guy according to most mocks but dude is pretty goodTruth24 wrote:Here are a couple guys we could look at later if we don't take a power forward at five.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_2ynCZDq8c[/youtube]
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEsVR8Rjc6w[/youtube]
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Zmill wrote:eyriq wrote:Nyce_1 wrote:I keep thinking about an interview Rob did a few weeks back and stated they'll always bet on a player to improve his shooting if he's athletically gift and showed strong work ethic and strong willingness to get better.
This is why I think Winslow is his guy.
I think so too. I Wouldn't be surprised if Hennigan thinks Winslow can become a serviceable spot up shooter some day.
But a strong case can be made for WCS and Porzingis fitting Hennigan's criteria as well.
He doesn't have to be Steph Curry but if he really can hit the 3 ball consistently then he could be a fantastic option for us.
I am more and more coming to the idea that Elfrid Payton is the focal point of this team going forward. From there, we can follow the Golden State strategy of filling the other roles through a true team effort with a strong rotation of guys rather than a starting 5 getting 40 minutes a game. With Elf as the ultimate facilitator on offense, we could have Dipo, Harris, AG, Vuc, Fournier, Winslow + one strong FA big man signing to be a TEAM of players who step in as needed.
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eyriq wrote:Nyce_1 wrote:I keep thinking about an interview Rob did a few weeks back and stated they'll always bet on a player to improve his shooting if he's athletically gift and showed strong work ethic and strong willingness to get better.
This is why I think Winslow is his guy.
So what if a player is already a very good shooter, while being athletically "gift" and "showed" strong work ethic?
Could that player not improve defensive technique and whatever else you like about Winslow's game?
Mario has an elite skill that translates right now and is said to be quite intense. I think you draft him if here's there and make him defend to earn court time like every one else should.
Winslow has plenty of merit, but is worlds behind Mario in what we are lacking most from a wing: shooting.
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MagicFan101 wrote:Zmill wrote:eyriq wrote:
This is why I think Winslow is his guy.
I think so too. I Wouldn't be surprised if Hennigan thinks Winslow can become a serviceable spot up shooter some day.
But a strong case can be made for WCS and Porzingis fitting Hennigan's criteria as well.
He doesn't have to be Steph Curry but if he really can hit the 3 ball consistently then he could be a fantastic option for us.
I am more and more coming to the idea that Elfrid Payton is the focal point of this team going forward. From there, we can follow the Golden State strategy of filling the other roles through a true team effort with a strong rotation of guys rather than a starting 5 getting 40 minutes a game. With Elf as the ultimate facilitator on offense, we could have Dipo, Harris, AG, Vuc, Fournier, Winslow + one strong FA big man signing to be a TEAM of players who step in as needed.
You can improve a lot of these bad shooters into decent shooters, but they will never become elite shooters, and we just watched a team with multiple elite shooters win an nba title, so it would be nice to have some guys that have a chance at getting to that level
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Well, two elite shooters. One of which that barely showed up.