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Orl_Magic wrote:MagicStarwipe wrote:Not to mention, one day Dipo, AG and Mario will also be getting paid as well.
This is what keeps me up at night. We will have to make some moves in order to become "sustainable"
The only player we MUST lock up is Payton and maybe Gordon if he keeps showing.
UCFJayBird wrote:Highly unlikely Mario starts, especially over Tobias who we just paid a ton of money.
LBPTarHeel27 wrote:There is a 100% chance that Hezonja comes off the bench.
"Last year, I did play some 3 and 4 and I bounced back and forth, and it was difficult for me just being a rookie — the different sets, the different defenses — and I stepped up to that challenge," Gordon said. "And I worked it out throughout the whole season, so now I'm ready to play either."
LBPTarHeel27 wrote:There is a 100% chance that Hezonja comes off the bench.
Anyone expecting him to start is delusional.
drsd wrote:LBPTarHeel27 wrote:There is a 100% chance that Hezonja comes off the bench.
It is interesting that at #5 Orlando drafted for bench depth.
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Skin wrote:magician4ever wrote:If you read my response carefully, you'll see all I was saying is that you can't rule out benching Tobias if that ultimately means maximizing the talent, like you said with the "best combination of your best players". Skin was saying concretely that one of our lotto picks should not be a starter with a healthy Tobias on board. I said making that assumption is questionable, that anything is possible based on what Skiles and his staff believe will maximize the talent available. Whether that be Hezonja starting over Harris opening night or by the end of the season or not at all is dependent on several factors; saying Harris will start over him because Harris is getting $16 mil a year and is 22 years old is not a safe assumption to make.
As for your comment about players who are better, are you telling me Harrison Barnes, right now, is better or similar to in talent than Andre Iguodala? He isn't; Iguodala leading the second unit did them wonders during the season. The same can be said for Harris leading our second unit either now or in the future.
Oh it's safe. Very very safe. Can you imagine the rift that would happen if Skiles benched Tobe again? Besides, Skiles already told Tobe that he wants him to step up as a team leader. He's not going to do that from the bench.
For all we know, Mario could be in the same shoes that Tobe was in in MIL. I hope not and I doubt Henny would let that happen here, but out of Dipo, Mario and AG... someone will have to be coming off the bench.
drsd wrote:LBPTarHeel27 wrote:There is a 100% chance that Hezonja comes off the bench.
It is interesting that at #5 Orlando drafted for bench depth.
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drsd wrote:UCFJayBird wrote:Highly unlikely Mario starts, especially over Tobias who we just paid a ton of money.
The loser in Orlando's draft choice is Fournier. Where is he going to get minutes in 2015?
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shadrock wrote:LBPTarHeel27 wrote:There is a 100% chance that Hezonja comes off the bench.
Anyone expecting him to start is delusional.
These kind of statements piss me off. You cant possibly know this for fact so its great you have an opinion but thats all it is, an opinion. No need for the pissy comment.
Fwiw I could easily see him being a starter by seasons end simply because he would bring shooting to the starting 5. No dilusion necessary.
UCFJayBird wrote:drsd wrote:UCFJayBird wrote:Highly unlikely Mario starts, especially over Tobias who we just paid a ton of money.
The loser in Orlando's draft choice is Fournier. Where is he going to get minutes in 2015?
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Maybe I should've waited until now to post that "Trade Fournier?" thread, lol. This was my exact thought the second we drafted him. There's only so many minutes to go around, and if we're investing a huge portion of our future in Hezonja than Fournier is probably the one to suffer minutes wise. And for a guy entering a contract year he might not exactly be thrilled about it. I wouldn't be shocked at all if Fournier is moved mid season.
LBPTarHeel27 wrote:UCFJayBird wrote:drsd wrote:
The loser in Orlando's draft choice is Fournier. Where is he going to get minutes in 2015?
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Maybe I should've waited until now to post that "Trade Fournier?" thread, lol. This was my exact thought the second we drafted him. There's only so many minutes to go around, and if we're investing a huge portion of our future in Hezonja than Fournier is probably the one to suffer minutes wise. And for a guy entering a contract year he might not exactly be thrilled about it. I wouldn't be shocked at all if Fournier is moved mid season.
More than Hezonja, I think that CJ Watson really hurts the PT of Fournier. If we had gone the route of using Dipo & Fournier to pick up minutes at backup PG, Fournier could have gotten his 25-28 MPG. Instead of something like...
PG Payton (32 MPG) / Oladipo (10 MPG) / Fournier (6 MPG)
SG Oladipo (22 MPG) / Fournier (20 MPG) / Hezonja (6 MPG)
SF Gordon (20 MPG) / Harris (14 MPG) / Hezonja (14 MPG)
PF Harris (20 MPG) / Gordon (10 MPG) / Frye (18 MPG)
C Vucevic (34 MPG) / Dedmon (14 MPG)
We are looking at something more along the lines of...
PG Payton (30 MPG) / Watson (16 MPG) / Oladipo (2 MPG)
SG Oladipo (30 MPG) / Fournier (18 MPG)
SF Gordon (20 MPG) / Harris (10 MPG) / Hezonja (18 MPG)
PF Harris (24 MPG) / Gordon (10 MPG) / Frye (14 MPG)
C Vucevic (34 MPG) / Dedmon (10 MPG) / Frye (4 MPG)
To me, Fournier takes the biggest hit in minutes because of the CJ Watson signing.
