Jameer Nelson - The Takeover (article)

[OrlChamps2030]

http://www.theplayerstribune.com/jameer-nelson-guards-nba/

Article written and submitted by Jameer

Pretty good read during the midst of a boring offseason.. Check it out!

[rcklsscognition]

I honestly still consider Jameer a member of the Orlando Magic, I think he should get a jersey retired eventually and I hope he comes back to work for us in the future once he retires.

[LBPTarHeel27]

I honestly still consider Jameer a member of the Orlando Magic, I think he should get a jersey retired eventually and I hope he comes back to work for us in the future once he retires.

He would be a great addition to the front office and I think there is a good chance it happens. Building a team's culture goes beyond that of just the game on the floor. If you can establish your franchise as one that takes care of its own and keeps everything in house, it goes a long way.

[Bensational]

The start of it reads like a giant middle finger to Dwight.

The rest of it reads like someone who wants to justify why they're a chucker.

Using MVP and Finals MVP votes to determine which position is most vital? C'mon. Sure, we don't have as many dominant big men in the game anymore, but doesn't mean they're dead, or that we should abandon pursuing them just so guys like Jameer can be the hero.

The last 15 years of championships have generally been decided by:

LeBron
Duncan
Kobe
Wade
Dirk
Garnett + Pierce
Shaq

If you had 1 or 2 of those guys, you'd have a good shot of getting to the finals.

But, here's the list of Finalist Bigs vs Finalist PGs for the last 10 years anyways:

Bigs: Bogut, Mozgov, Duncan, Bosh, Perkins/Ibaka, Dirk, Pau, Bynum, Garnett, Dwight, Ilgauskas, Shaq, Ben Wallace, Sheed Wallace

PGs: Curry, Delavedova, Parker, Chalmers, Westbrook, Kidd, Fisher, Rondo, Nelson, Eric Snow, Terry, J.Williams, Billups

That list of bigs is so much stronger than that list of point guards. Jameer better get a whole lot smarter before we let him anywhere near our front office or coaching staff.

[NEM]

I honestly still consider Jameer a member of the Orlando Magic, I think he should get a jersey retired eventually and I hope he comes back to work for us in the future once he retires.

I'd love to see it happen, but we haven't retired nick, penny, shaq, t-Mac, or Darrell so I highly doubt we retire meer

[drsd]

The last 15 years of championships have generally been decided by:

LeBron
Duncan
Kobe
Wade
Dirk
Garnett + Pierce
Shaq

I would remove Wade from the list as for me O'Neal and James were causal for the Heat titles. And Curry really needs to be added. His ridiculous street-ball game only works because he is so efficient. No other player in the league can win by chucking. And the last player that could was Iverson.


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[Orlwillbeback]

Thanks for posting this. I would like to see jameer eventually become a player development coach for the Magic.

[Max Power]

Nice read from Jameer. Nothing spectacular but he has some solid points. Albeit he admits to being biased towards guard play. Jameer could end up a coach after he retires but the fact he wrote this makes me think NBA media may be in his future.


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[Blue_and_Whte]

The start of it reads like a giant middle finger to Dwight.

The rest of it reads like someone who wants to justify why they're a chucker.

Using MVP and Finals MVP votes to determine which position is most vital? C'mon. Sure, we don't have as many dominant big men in the game anymore, but doesn't mean they're dead, or that we should abandon pursuing them just so guys like Jameer can be the hero.

The last 15 years of championships have generally been decided by:

LeBron
Duncan
Kobe
Wade
Dirk
Garnett + Pierce
Shaq

If you had 1 or 2 of those guys, you'd have a good shot of getting to the finals.

But, here's the list of Finalist Bigs vs Finalist PGs for the last 10 years anyways:

Bigs: Bogut, Mozgov, Duncan, Bosh, Perkins/Ibaka, Dirk, Pau, Bynum, Garnett, Dwight, Ilgauskas, Shaq, Ben Wallace, Sheed Wallace

PGs: Curry, Delavedova, Parker, Chalmers, Westbrook, Kidd, Fisher, Rondo, Nelson, Eric Snow, Terry, J.Williams, Billups

That list of bigs is so much stronger than that list of point guards. Jameer better get a whole lot smarter before we let him anywhere near our front office or coaching staff.

Blah blah blah " I hate Jameer" blah blah Blah.

[tiderulz]

The start of it reads like a giant middle finger to Dwight.

The rest of it reads like someone who wants to justify why they're a chucker.

Using MVP and Finals MVP votes to determine which position is most vital? C'mon. Sure, we don't have as many dominant big men in the game anymore, but doesn't mean they're dead, or that we should abandon pursuing them just so guys like Jameer can be the hero.

The last 15 years of championships have generally been decided by:

LeBron
Duncan
Kobe
Wade
Dirk
Garnett + Pierce
Shaq

If you had 1 or 2 of those guys, you'd have a good shot of getting to the finals.

But, here's the list of Finalist Bigs vs Finalist PGs for the last 10 years anyways:

Bigs: Bogut, Mozgov, Duncan, Bosh, Perkins/Ibaka, Dirk, Pau, Bynum, Garnett, Dwight, Ilgauskas, Shaq, Ben Wallace, Sheed Wallace

PGs: Curry, Delavedova, Parker, Chalmers, Westbrook, Kidd, Fisher, Rondo, Nelson, Eric Snow, Terry, J.Williams, Billups

That list of bigs is so much stronger than that list of point guards. Jameer better get a whole lot smarter before we let him anywhere near our front office or coaching staff.

i agree somewhat. If his stance had been wings that is one thing, but PG's? there have been multiple finals teams with lackluster PG's, as your list shows.

[drsd]

i agree somewhat. If his stance had been wings that is one thing, but PG's? there have been multiple finals teams with lackluster PG's, as your list shows.

Example: one of the worst starting PGs in the NBA, by many metrics, is a two time Champion.

If you truly suck, this is not a very good tattoo choice, in my opinion.

[drsd]

Thanks for posting this. I would like to see jameer eventually become a player development coach for the Magic.

And-1

On the point of the article, I agree with Nelson that the future of the NBA is through aggressive PG play. Having Nelson train Payton sounds like a great use of both of their time.


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[Bensational]

The last 15 years of championships have generally been decided by:

LeBron
Duncan
Kobe
Wade
Dirk
Garnett + Pierce
Shaq

I would remove Wade from the list as for me O'Neal and James were causal for the Heat titles. And Curry really needs to be added. His ridiculous street-ball game only works because he is so efficient. No other player in the league can win by chucking. And the last player that could was Iverson.


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Yeah, I mean ultimately the real game changers have only been Shaq, Duncan, LeBron, Dirk, Kobe and Wade in that order.

Shaq and Duncan were the two most dominant bigs in a long time, and they made players around them much better. LeBron is showing with Cleveland just how good he can be on his own, and that just shows how superior he is compared to Kobe and Wade. Kobe and Wade need to be on the list because they've shown they can be a vital #1b guy, too, winning 'ships with two vastly different rosters. But that's why Dirk gets a nod ahead of them, because he's been to the finals twice as the only real star on his team.

Curry doesn't get added yet until he shows more longevity as a winner. Same with Durant.

[Bensational]

The start of it reads like a giant middle finger to Dwight.

The rest of it reads like someone who wants to justify why they're a chucker.

Blah blah blah " I hate Jameer" blah blah Blah.

Pretty much. Or, rather, I just hate his over inflated opinion of himself and his role. I think the guy might be able to take this stance if he'd been an elite scorer, but he wasn't. This is like Tobias Harris writing an article on how vital wing defense is in today's game.

[Hilltop]

I honestly still consider Jameer a member of the Orlando Magic, I think he should get a jersey retired eventually and I hope he comes back to work for us in the future once he retires.

I'd like to see him return to the organization in some capacity. I would definitely be against retiring his jersey though. IMO we don't have anyone who has earned that honour just yet. Dwight would be the closest if any.

[Hilltop]

The start of it reads like a giant middle finger to Dwight.

The rest of it reads like someone who wants to justify why they're a chucker.

Yeah, I thought I was the only one who noticed. That was pretty much the tone of the entire article.

And yes, he's certainly downplaying the value of big men in this league. To say you don't need dominant big men to win titles or that guards have taken over is a bit of an exaggeration (especially considering the fact that he's counting LeBron as a guard in his MVP argument). Regardless, I'm not really gonna dwell on it. I get what he's trying to say from a high level.

[rcklsscognition]

The start of it reads like a giant middle finger to Dwight.

The rest of it reads like someone who wants to justify why they're a chucker.

Yeah, I thought I was the only one who noticed. That was pretty much the tone of the entire article.

And yes, he's certainly downplaying the value of big men in this league. To say you don't need dominant big men to win titles or that guards have taken over is a bit of an exaggeration (especially considering the fact that he's counting LeBron as a guard in his MVP argument). Regardless, I'm not really gonna dwell on it. I get what he's trying to say from a high level.

All I could see when reading it was Jameer dribbling down the court, stopping, and doing that hesitation lob into Dwight in the post.

[Hilltop]

The start of it reads like a giant middle finger to Dwight.

The rest of it reads like someone who wants to justify why they're a chucker.

Yeah, I thought I was the only one who noticed. That was pretty much the tone of the entire article.

And yes, he's certainly downplaying the value of big men in this league. To say you don't need dominant big men to win titles or that guards have taken over is a bit of an exaggeration (especially considering the fact that he's counting LeBron as a guard in his MVP argument). Regardless, I'm not really gonna dwell on it. I get what he's trying to say from a high level.

All I could see when reading it was Jameer dribbling down the court, stopping, and doing that hesitation lob into Dwight in the post.

Don't give me nightmares JK

[Bensational]

Jameer should write an article about what it's like to watch a Finals game winning 3pt shot fly over your head because you're too **** at defense to do anything about it. I'd love to hear how much he regrets that. doubt he does though, he probably regrets not taking more shots in that series.