ezzzp wrote:Melvinlocker wrote:So I'm going to stir the pot a little bit just for the sake of conversation. Let's say it turns out we are able to acquire Darren Collison or George Hill in a trade. Are either of those guys worth dumping Payton. Both of them can hold their own defensively and can run an offense with minimal turnovers. They can hit threes at a solid clip and can draw and hit free throws at a solid rate.
Hill is in the middle of his prime at 29 and is probably the better player of the two, while Collison is younger at 28.Spoiler:
Under what far fetched scenario does Indiana trade a key player - George Hill - who is only halfway thru a great value $8m per year deal? and what starter do you give up or combination of key bench players (of the +20 mpg type) do you give to Indiana?
George Hill probably costs the Magic Tobias Harris or Fournier + Dedmon at minimum for the conversation to start for Indiana. They are not going to trade their starting point guard on a killer contract for Andrew Nicholson and Jason Smith.
With Rondo on a 1 year deal, why would the Kings put themselves in a situation where they have zero point guards by trading away Collison? and again who are you trading for the Kings to do that?
I should have clarified. I'm suggesting that in the event that Payton is largely the same player this season, do we look at our options next summer and see what other PG's are available (ala Philly and MCW)?
The proposed trades are centered around Payton and whoever else might need to be added to make the contracts work. I think this brings up an interesting thought experiment regarding our valuation of Payton as a prospect. Do we value Payton's peak in a few years more than we value 3 to 5 peak years of these PG's who were just suggested (keeping in mind that Vuc, Tobias and Vic are entering prime years)? I honestly don't know the answer to that question.
I'm also not saying defintievely that we should trade Payton next summer either because we won't know exactly what we have here until year 3. I'm just trying to get a feel for what the board thinks of Payton in relation to what other PG's could provide us. This also provides those who dislike him with a platform to speak their mind about alternatives.