Magic reach agreement with DJ Augustin

magic111 · Post #1 » by **magic111** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 7:56 am

Woj tweet: What y'all think of this? Back up PG: I guess Crawdord is ling shot now

shadrock · Post #2 » by **shadrock** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 8:02 am

Depends on the contract terms but if its a 1 + 1 deal with a team option on the second year at a cheap price it could be good. He adds shooting depth at PG. Hes a 3rd string pg behind CJ and Elf. Does make CJ expendable via trade though.

Post #3 » by **SOUL** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 8:04 am

Whatever gets Shabazz less minutes, sure.

Greenraida · Post #4 » by **Greenraida** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 8:06 am

need to know the value here.

shadrock · Post #5 » by **shadrock** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 8:06 am

Scouting report

+ Veteran point guard who has historically been more effective as a starter

+ Capable outside shooter, average playmaker but rarely penetrates

+ Below-average defender, undersized for the position and not exceptionally quick

Analysis

Brandon Jennings' season-ending Achilles injury temporarily meant opportunity for Augustin. In 10 games as the Detroit Pistons' starter after Jennings went down, Augustin averaged 20.3 points and 8.2 assists in 34.4 minutes per game. Since leaving Charlotte, where he was a full-time starter his past two seasons, Augustin has been far more effective in a starting role. He has averaged 17.0 points and 6.9 assists per 36 minutes on a .602 true shooting percentage in 28 starts as compared to 13.9 points and 5.6 assists per 36 with a .530 TS percentage off the bench.

Alas, the Thunder will have to hope Augustin can succeed in a reserve role after acquiring him in the deadline deal that sent Reggie Jackson to the Pistons. In Oklahoma City, Augustin was almost strictly a spot-up shooter, taking more than half his shots from beyond the arc. He made them at just a 35.4 percent clip, though he's capable of more as a career 37.1 percent 3-point shooter. A non-creative playmaker, Augustin spent a lot of time off the ball while Dion Waiters ran the offense, an arrangement that may continue this season.

The biggest reason Augustin hasn't gotten a chance to start despite his performance in that role is that, well, he's small. At 6-foot, Augustin is undersized defensively, and while he battles in the post, he's a poor rebounder and generates few steals. ESPN's real plus-minus ranked him 81st out of 83 qualifying point guards defensively last season.

cedric76 · Post #6 » by **cedric76** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 8:10 am

Pg sorted

3rd vet addition for Vogel

fendilim · Post #7 » by **fendilim** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 8:10 am

20m/2yrs

AddiFB · Post #8 » by **AddiFB** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 8:11 am

Better 3rd PG than Napier. So I guess Napier is out?

magic111 · Post #9 » by **magic111** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 8:13 am

God I hope this is a 1 year deal. Was really hoping in Crawford, but now we have like 4 pg

cedric76 · Post #10 » by **cedric76** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 8:13 am

Has to be a 1+1 overpaid

shadrock · Post #11 » by **shadrock** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 8:14 am

fendilim wrote:20m/2yrs

Is that a guess or you have a source?

shadrock · Post #12 » by **shadrock** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 8:17 am

Liking the shooting depth we are adding. I wonder if CJ would be appealing to a team via teade? I dont see a need for Elf CJ and DJ.

Bergmaniac · Post #13 » by **Bergmaniac** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 8:19 am

He was really bad for the Thunder last season.

shadrock · Post #14 » by **shadrock** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 8:21 am

Bergmaniac wrote:He was really bad for the Thunder last season.

Seems like he wasnt asked to do a whole lot.

Post #15 » by **SOUL** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 8:23 am

Most OKC and Bulls fans have good things to say about him, so hopefully he'll be our first decent backup in like 1029320 years.

Inqui · Post #16 » by **Inqui** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 8:25 am

shadrock wrote:Liking the shooting depth we are adding. I wonder if CJ would be appealing to a team via teade? I dont see a need for Elf CJ and DJ.

It's just a shame Payton's surname doesn't start with a J - we'd have CJ, DJ and EJ.

Anyway, as others have said this deal depends on how many years we're giving him. I think we're going to make a bigger run at the (notably stronger) 2017 FA class so I hope he's only on a 1+1 deal with a team option. As long as his money is off the books for the next offseason while sides like the Lakers and Knicks strap in to multi-year contracts I can live with it.

AddiFB · Post #17 » by **AddiFB** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 8:25 am

Well, we're on fire this offseason! Starting with a huge, loud... whisper of a move.

Post #18 » by **FFBlitzace** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 8:25 am

Mike Conley, eat your heart out.

fendilim · Post #19 » by **fendilim** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 8:29 am

shadrock wrote:
fendilim wrote:20m/2yrs

Is that a guess or you have a source?

I have a source. His name is Jack Daniels.

shadrock · Post #20 » by **shadrock** » Fri Jul 1, 2016 8:32 am

Inqui wrote:
shadrock wrote:Liking the shooting depth we are adding. I wonder if CJ would be appealing to a team via teade? I dont see a need for Elf CJ and DJ.

It's just a shame Payton's surname doesn't start with a J - we'd have CJ, DJ and EJ.

Anyway, as others have said this deal depends on how many years we're giving him. I think we're going to make a bigger run at the (notably stronger) 2017 FA class so I hope he's only on a 1+1 deal with a team option. As long as his money is off the books for the next offseason while sides like the Lakers and Knicks strap in to multi-year contracts I can live with it.

Brandon Jennings = BJ! :lol: