Game 7: Orlando Magic (3-3) @ Chicago Bulls (3-3) - 8:00 PM ET

[OrlChamps2030]

Ibaka has gotta be injured. Even if he's older than he's listed at, he shouldn't look this bad on defense

[Blue_and_Whte]

Ibaka has gotta be injured. Even if he's older than he's listed at, he shouldn't look this bad on defense

This isn't directed at you personally but I'm actually tired of the "injured" excuse.

If he's too injured to do one of the two things we brought him in to do then sit his ass down. I'd rather him be 100% if it comes down to a playoff push. (which I've always said isn't happening).

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[Bergmaniac]

If Ibaka is injured he should not play until he gets better for his own good too. This type of performances aren't helping his case for a big payday in the summer at all.

[BadMofoPimp]

Ibaka missed multiple preseason games for a reason. If you are not considering that you may be on the wrong trail.

For GM Hennigan, there was no great risk in Ibaka as he is on a one year deal, and supposedly playing for a contract. If he does not produce, then Orlando can look to the free-agent market with Ibaka and Green's contracts as a starting point for a max deal at PF.

Blake Griffin looks to be available. Orlando could make another run at-even-older Paul Millsap. Orlando could take a chance on Nerlens Noel. Nikola Mirotić is another guy to be considered.

There are options here to have a player at least as good as Ibaka was 3-years ago.

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Magic traded arguably their biggest asset and this years draft pick for Ibaka. There is a huge risk for Henny.

[magicman112]

Had this one marked down as a loss. They have too many guys who can score the ball and playing so wildly inconsistent on defense it was going to be tough. Didn't think they'd get roflstomped but so it goes.

[yoyojw17]

[spearsy23]

I'm officially changing my stance to ibaka is an old man. we've been lied to. and that trade looks bad now.

what's more depressing are: seeing Oladipo's playing very well and even rookie Sabonis found a solid spot at PF with OKC. He's 4-7 at the 3pt line having 15pts.

Where is this notion that Oladipo has been playing well coming from? I've seen this from multiple posters the last week or so. Entering today he had a 10.3 PER, half the assists and the same amount of turnovers as Fournier while shooting much worse and we are hating on Fournier? Ibaka has been much better than Oladipo so far statistically as well. He will obviously get better and is a notoriously slow starter, but as of now our move for him should be validated with Serge and Fournier both playing MUCH better than him. If he played for us like he did in OKC I think it's safe to say that we don't have 3 wins right now. Instead everyone is freaking out about how "bad" (I would use disappointing) Serge/Fournier have been and haven't looked at Dipo's stats.

Dipo was 6-9 for 17 points today, but had 2 rebounds, 2 assists, 1 turnover in 33 minutes, but that's one of his best games so far this year. Serge and Fournier have both had multiple better games then that.

Vic has been pretty bad for us offensively, but After game one he's been terrific on defense. We have a 94.4 team d rating with him on the court.

[JBSouthpaw]

Here is where it went bad, 2nd Q:
4:15 Evan Fournier misses driving layup 24 - 22 (1st missed shot)
4:11 Jimmy Butler defensive rebound 24 - 22
4:05 Isaiah Canaan makes three point jumper (Jimmy Butler assists) 24 - 25
4:05 Magic Full timeout 24 - 25
4:05 D.J. Augustin enters the game for Elfrid Payton 24 - 25
3:44 Evan Fournier misses 26-foot three point jumper 24 - 25 (2nd Miss)
3:43 Robin Lopez defensive rebound 24 - 25
3:35 Jeff Green personal foul (Doug McDermott draws the foul) 24 - 25
3:20 Isaiah Canaan makes layup (Taj Gibson assists) 24 - 27
3:20 Serge Ibaka defensive goaltending violation 24 - 27
3:08 Nikola Mirotic enters the game for Robin Lopez 24 - 27
3:08 Bismack Biyombo enters the game for Serge Ibaka 24 - 27
3:08 Mario Hezonja enters the game for Nikola Vucevic 24 - 27
2:55 D.J. Augustin misses 28-foot three point jumper 24 - 27 (3rd Miss)
2:55 Bulls defensive team rebound 24 - 27
2:47 Jimmy Butler makes 6-foot two point shot 24 - 29
2:47 Mario Hezonja shooting foul (Jimmy Butler draws the foul) 24 - 29
2:47 Jimmy Butler makes free throw 1 of 1 24 - 30
2:34 Bismack Biyombo misses driving layup 24 - 30 (4th Miss)
2:33 Taj Gibson defensive rebound 24 - 30
2:21 Nikola Mirotic misses 26-foot three point jumper 24 - 30 (5th Miss)
2:20 Bismack Biyombo defensive rebound 24 - 30
2:05 Mario Hezonja misses 24-foot three point jumper 24 - 30 (6th Miss)
2:04 Bismack Biyombo offensive rebound 24 - 30
2:04 Isaiah Canaan personal foul (Bismack Biyombo draws the foul) 24 - 30
1:59 Evan Fournier traveling 24 - 30 (1st TO)
1:59 Dwyane Wade enters the game for Isaiah Canaan 24 - 30
1:36 Bismack Biyombo blocks Jimmy Butler's layup 24 - 30
1:34 Dwyane Wade offensive rebound 24 - 30
1:31 Dwyane Wade misses jumper 24 - 30
1:30 Mario Hezonja defensive rebound 24 - 30
1:24 Bismack Biyombo misses driving layup 24 - 30 (7th miss)
1:23 Taj Gibson defensive rebound 24 - 30
1:21 Dwyane Wade makes 2-foot two point shot (Taj Gibson assists) 24 - 32
0:59 Bismack Biyombo 3 second turnover 24 - 32 (2nd TO)
0:59 Bobby Portis enters the game for Taj Gibson 24 - 32
0:41 Dwyane Wade makes 21-foot jumper (Doug McDermott assists) 24 - 34
0:20 Jeff Green misses three point jumper 24 - 34 (8th Missed shot)
0:19 Doug McDermott defensive rebound 24 - 34
0:00 Nikola Mirotic makes 25-foot three point jumper (Jimmy Butler assists) 24 - 37
0:00 End of the 1st Quarter

To sum it up:
8 Misses in a row, plus 2 TOs, (i actually thought Mario had one too in this run).
Chicago went on a 15-0 run, from being down 2, to up 13.

[RexRyan]

ehh, if they were not going to give a max deal to Dipo, we probably were not going to get much in a SnT with him.

I think the "We had to trade Dipo because he wanted a max deal" argument has run its course. He took a deal for $25 million less than the max. Hennigan got robbed on that trade, just as he did with Harris. OKC just got a conditional first for Jerami Grant and Henny couldn't get a pick for Harris?

[Tayswagzzz]

ehh, if they were not going to give a max deal to Dipo, we probably were not going to get much in a SnT with him.

I think the "We had to trade Dipo because he wanted a max deal" argument has run it's course. He took a deal for $25 million less than the max. Hennigan got robbed on that trade, just as he did with Harris. OKC just got a conditional first for Jerami Grant and Henny couldn't get a pick for Harris?

Thank you for seeing it as us rational minded fans do. Both trades were awful.

[spearsy23]

You counted nikola mirotics miss as being for Orlando ^

[PrimeThyme]

Its clear to me now that ALL eggs need to be thrown in the AG/Mario basket. Sink or swim. Ill live with the outcome either way. Needs to be 30mpg for them both at their proper positions.

I agree 100%. We tanked two full seasons for these guys. They are our most athletic, youngest, and have the highest ceilings on the team. Our best chance at making the playoffs and a playoff run is one of these guys turning into stars. Ibaka could be hurt, but he can walk at the end of the season for all I care. If his efforts not there on the defensive end give his minutes to someone else because his defense is only hurting the team so far. Elf,Evan,Mario,AG,Vuc. We need to sink or swim with that starting lineup.

[Tayswagzzz]

Its clear to me now that ALL eggs need to be thrown in the AG/Mario basket. Sink or swim. Ill live with the outcome either way. Needs to be 30mpg for them both at their proper positions.

I agree 100%. We tanked two full seasons for these guys. They are our most athletic, youngest, and have the highest ceilings on the team. Our best chance at making the playoffs and a playoff run is one of these guys turning into stars. Ibaka could be hurt, but he can walk at the end of the season for all I care. If his efforts not there on the defensive end give his minutes to someone else because his defense is only hurting the team so far. Elf,Evan,Mario,AG,Vuc. We need to sink or swim with that starting lineup.

[Mc-o]

Its clear to me now that ALL eggs need to be thrown in the AG/Mario basket. Sink or swim. Ill live with the outcome either way. Needs to be 30mpg for them both at their proper positions.

I agree 100%. We tanked two full seasons for these guys. They are our most athletic, youngest, and have the highest ceilings on the team. Our best chance at making the playoffs and a playoff run is one of these guys turning into stars. Ibaka could be hurt, but he can walk at the end of the season for all I care. If his efforts not there on the defensive end give his minutes to someone else because his defense is only hurting the team so far. Elf,Evan,Mario,AG,Vuc. We need to sink or swim with that starting lineup.

hilarious !!!

[Mc-o]

Its clear to me now that ALL eggs need to be thrown in the AG/Mario basket. Sink or swim. Ill live with the outcome either way. Needs to be 30mpg for them both at their proper positions.

I agree 100%. We tanked two full seasons for these guys. They are our most athletic, youngest, and have the highest ceilings on the team. Our best chance at making the playoffs and a playoff run is one of these guys turning into stars. Ibaka could be hurt, but he can walk at the end of the season for all I care. If his efforts not there on the defensive end give his minutes to someone else because his defense is only hurting the team so far. Elf,Evan,Mario,AG,Vuc. We need to sink or swim with that starting lineup.

i Agree and then our bench can be Biz Ibaka green Augustin!

[Mc-o]

My main problem with Rob is his recent trades and lack of picks in return! I know its early but the ibaka trade doesnt look good especially when we signed Bizmack. Why couldnt we have traded oladipo for a legit SF and keep AG at the 4 where he has a bigger impact on the game ?!? Rob was good in the beginning of his tenure but after not getting a star in the draft it seems like he doesnt have much of a plan.

[JBSouthpaw]

ehh, if they were not going to give a max deal to Dipo, we probably were not going to get much in a SnT with him.

I think the "We had to trade Dipo because he wanted a max deal" argument has run it's course. He took a deal for $25 million less than the max. Hennigan got robbed on that trade, just as he did with Harris. OKC just got a conditional first for Jerami Grant and Henny couldn't get a pick for Harris?

Could we really pay the SG position $35M + a year?

Whether the trade was good or not, this was NOT going to happen.

OKC made that trade to get rid of salary, they dumped $8.4M for an non-guaranteed contract! That pick is top 20 protected in 2020, turns into 2 2nd rounders. Not much value there.

I will agree, that if we waited till the summer to trade Harris, we would have gotten more though.

We have no attachment to Serge, at the trade deadline, he is the perfect player teams look to add. Teams like Washington, Denver, Houston, Toronto may need a player like him to get their teams further into the playoffs. Same with Uncle Jeff.

[Tayswagzzz]

My main problem with Rob is his recent trades and lack of picks in return! I know its early but the ibaka trade doesnt look good especially when we signed Bizmack. Why couldnt we have traded oladipo for a legit SF and keep AG at the 4 where he has a bigger impact on the game ?!? Rob was good in the beginning of his tenure but after not getting a star in the draft it seems like he doesnt have much of a plan.

Hennigan has ties with OKC...when he heard Ibaka was available he had to have him...

[T-DOT KEEZY]

The putrid offense/great defense thing will work against lesser skilled teams, low effort teams, and tired folks on the end of a back to back. We will get a fair share of "W"'s that said all you need to do to beat the Magic is go three attacking guards and run out on missed shots..

[Bergmaniac]

^ What great defense? I haven't seen any signs of such a thing yet this season.